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Zeref & Mavis' relationship confirmed as of Anime
Chapter 340 Page 14 - 19 revealed that both related & Zeref could be the former guild member & one of the founding member whom actually Mavis' lover —This unsigned comment was made by ScottKazama (talk • contribs) .
Speculations.18:13, July 5, 2013 (UTC)
Zeref isn't a founding member, but is indeed Mavis' lover. His love for her is what caused the contradiction curse, and stole her life. Mavis has said in chapter 537 that Zeref was her inspiration for creating Fairy Tail though. The Raven Queen(Into the Night) 21:37, June 14, 2017 (UTC)
Okaaaaay soooo... In his M&A it is stated that the name of his spell is "Death Wave", however, in the Anime, he calls this something else, "Predatory Death". He mentioned this many times IN the Anime, one instance in episode 100, when he encountered Elf and Ever... also the fight with Ultear. I was supposed to add the predatory death as something Zeref refers to it, just like what Kamika refers to her papers. But since most of Mira's spells are not named in the Manga, and are named in the Anime, I brought it here. Should we rename Death Wave to Predatory Death, just add Predatory Death the same way with Kamika referring to her papers as "God of <insert something here/>", or just don't add it at all? Thoughts? 07:33,5/7/2014
- I think he wasn't refering to any single spell, but either to death itself, or to whatever makes his powers go out of control. NoNickNeeded (talk) 08:15, May 7, 2014 (UTC)
Hey guys, I was wondering why are we adding the spell Nemesis into this magic and abilities section. It was never shown that he used it. Yes, it's true that it comes from the Book of Zeref. But I thought we don't add any spells or magic unless we've actually seen them. Similar to Mavis. People are arguing that she knows Fairy Law but it was ignored because it's always due to "we won't add it until we see her use it"07:32, August 21, 2014 (UTC)
- I think the counter-argument to all this is that Nemesis came from Zeref's books, meaning he created the spell and therefore has the capacity to use it. It was never directly stated who created the three great Fairy Magics, and this is the difference between Zeref and Mavis in this regard.
07:42, August 21, 2014 (UTC)
I was just wondering, why is Natsu referred to as just 'Natsu' in the family section of the infobox instead of 'Natsu Dragneel'? I'm pretty sure this is a mistake, but I can't change it, so I thought I'd put it here ^-^ Shinobiguy (talk) 16:09, May 18, 2015 (UTC)
- Fixed. Thanks for the heads up. ^__^ 16:11,5/18/2015
Can we really call Zeref and Natsu brothers? As I understand it Zeref's brother was, to put it bluntly, merely the raw material from which Natsu was built. There doesn't seem to be anything left of the brother's mind or soul. NoNickNeeded (talk) 20:59, May 18, 2015 (UTC)
Zeref literally said that he had resurrected his brother though20:22, May 18, 2015 (UTC)
This is true... Zeref stated that he managed to kill two birds with stone - he revived his brother and created a being capable of ending his life in one go...--188.8.131.52 11:52, May 22, 2015 (UTC)
Magic and Abilities Section
I was wondering if Magic and Abilities section should include "Genius intellect" or something... When he was still a child, he was already writing papers of advanced topics such as the relationship between magic and life and death and he also invented the R-system and Eclipse Gate... The others at Mildian Magic Academy even acknowledged that he was a prodigy and had high hopes for him...--184.108.40.206 11:58, May 22, 2015 (UTC)
Edit Personality Section?
I mean, did you see his face when he was torturing Makarov ? This refutes everything we know about him, including the caring about life yada yada.
He seems to be extremely cold hearted; literally talking calmly to Makarov about sending the latter's dead body to his own brother.
Isn't that creepy as hell ?
Or maybe he is bipolar; he was jovial in the beginning and suddenly became all evil and intensely scary only a few seconds later.
Sorry, forgot to sign before.
--220.127.116.11 13:05, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
Can we remove his last name from the title of the article, since it's a MAJOR spoiler, similar to how Oracion Seis aren't referred to by their actual names. Like, have Dragneel in his background and Avatar/Alvarez arcs section.18.104.22.168 19:48, August 20, 2015 (UTC)
- I kind of agree with you anon, but the thing is if people go to a wiki to find out about a series when they've not got up-to-date with it, they will always risk coming across spoilers. That's just the risk they take unfortunately :/ 19:52, August 20, 2015 (UTC)
No. And this is coming from someone who hates having a story spoiled for him. However, any information coming from a chapter already publicly available in English is no longer a spoiler for us. If you are an anime only fan, or not up to date, by entering the wiki or even just looking up information about the series/characters in general, you take the risk of being spoiled on yourself. Also, Oracion Seis members are now called by their real names.19:54, August 20, 2015 (UTC)
Fire Magic/Demon-Book ability
I'm just wondering but should we add fire magic as apart of Zeref's abilities as he used it to burn Mard Geer in book form. I'm also wondering why no one has added that Zeref can turn his demons back in books as a ability of his as he can due it again with Mard Geer, thanks.22.214.171.124 05:25, October 1, 2015 (UTC)
personally wouldn't care to add but prob speculation... plus his time-stop had the inverted colors and shit20:36, February 23, 2016 (UTC)
Here what the Anon said a long time ago. "I was wondering if Magic and Abilities section should include "Genius intellect" or something... When he was still a child, he was already writing papers of advanced topics such as the relationship between magic and life and death and he also invented the R-system and Eclipse Gate... The others at Mildian Magic Academy even acknowledged that he was a prodigy and had high hopes for him...--126.96.36.199 11:58, May 22, 2015 (UTC)" He was ignored by the community, but I think he's right. If Mirajane has "Keen Intellect", why shouldn't Zeref's geniality be mentioned?12:14, July 6, 2016 (UTC)
true, ask an admin to unlock his page to add it12:28, July 6, 2016 (UTC)
Larcade in History
Universe one for Zeref
Universe one for Zeref : Shouldnt we add universe one for zeref like how we added law because in chapter 489 it was told that eileen learnt this magic from zeref himself.So i was just thinking about adding it in the magic and abilities of Zeref Here are the links to page 15 of chapter 489 for your reference http://www3.mangafreak.net/Read1_Fairy_Tail_489_15#gohere
Sorry but its my first time in the wiki and dont know how to start a talk p.roperly
Irene knew how to enchant long before she ever met Zeref. The correct translation is:
"Your Magic Power is impressive for someone who trained under the Black Wizard."
That which you are referring to was a mistranslation, more or less.
03:47, January 30, 2017 (UTC)
(To [[Natsu Dragneel]]) ''"Could this too be caused by the curse of contradictions...? Or is it my own emotions? I'm not entirely sure."'' <ref>Fairy Tail Manga: Chapter 525, Page 14
I think this quote should really be added to his page, since it very nicely shows that even Zeref himself can't tell which thoughts and emotions are truly his and which are influenced or even outright stem from the contradictory curse. It's giving us a deeper understanding of his condition. NoNickNeeded (talk) 09:06, March 11, 2017 (UTC)
Agreed09:33, March 11, 2017 (UTC)
Ah, done10:22, March 11, 2017 (UTC)
It is shown that Zeref is capable of enchantments.He was able to do so by turning Irene's appearance into a human. This could also be on how he changes his demons' form from a demon to a book and the other way around as doing so to Mard Geer. Could someone add it to his page?--‡ † () ∓ 18:48, April 9, 2017 (UTC)
August in History
I think it would be good to put Zeref meeting August in his history because that's a crucial plot in Zeref's life even if he didn't know that August was his son.(Kingdevo215 (talk) 02:52, April 23, 2017 (UTC))
SPOILER ALERT FOR CHAPTERS 532&533
ok that was your spoiler alert, so nobody complain about spoilers, if you chose to keep reading that's on you. anyways as of the past 2 chapters shouldn't zeref's abilities be updated to include fairy heart and 4 dimensional existence? after all he gained fairy heart and that made him a being that transcends time and space (aka 4d) —This unsigned comment was made by BRAFF ZACKLIN (talk • contribs) .
Update Zeref's page
When i have the time i'll add all of it in one go along with the appropriate references, if you know the chapters that might be useful as reference feel free to add it here coz that would be helpful, thanks in advance.20:29, July 14, 2019 (UTC)
These are the chapter with appropriate references Chapters 436,524,525,527,529,532, episode 284 and 317. Zeref Immense Durability ,Enhanced Speed, Immense Magic Power and Master Hand-to-Hand Combatant, Keen Intellect were shown in these chapters and episode 317.
Seems there's a chance that i won't be able to personally do the changes immediately due to personal reasons but incase it took me may to long to add them then feel free to message Miskos3 or Ncduru about these since they might be able to do it faster than me.06:05, July 15, 2019 (UTC)
It's been concluded that Zeref is dead (so is Mavis), and his status needs to be changed, along with a lot of stuff added to his Alvarez Empire arc.
- Not to mention as Final Chapter is that Zeref & Mavis are now reincarnated as regular civilians, a amateur novelist and fan of Lucy's novel works named Arleos and reporter name Mio. (ScottKazama (talk) 9:05, July 24, 2017 (UTC))
Child Zeref actor
It's now been added.02:19, November 18, 2018 (UTC)
- Funimation's simuldub lineup has updated with cast info on Episode 284's dub. The English actor for Child Zeref is Emily Fajardo. SubZeroSilver (talk) 21:26, December 11, 2018 (UTC)
It's been updated.
Zeref Dragneel Magic and Abilities
As long as it was used within the fairy tail universe then we can reference it and add it to his page, unfortunately i cant seem to find which chapter he was called that aside from it being used as the title of chapter 533.05:45, March 7, 2019 (UTC)
Depends on whether someone really nicknamed him as such or it was just a one time description.07:43, March 7, 2019 (UTC)
English actor substitute
Done.23:23, June 25, 2019 (UTC)
He never did in the manga, so at best its just the animation team making an error.01:20, August 25, 2019 (UTC)
Black Arts Mastery?
Where was it stated that he mastered all forms of Black Magic? In the official translation he said that Zeref Mastered the Black Arts. Can someone please clarify?--CNBA3 (talk) 00:36, March 22, 2020 (UTC)
Its now been updated, unfortunately i only used a fan translation to check it and feel free to double check.03:23, April 8, 2020 (UTC)