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It's an unnamed shield. We got rid of all other unnamed shields. --Sane Lunatic (talk) 08:49, August 26, 2015 (UTC)

Support

1. Support - If all the other shields were, in fact, deleted, I don't see the reason why this one shouldn't be deleted as well. DispellingMage09:13,8/26/2015
2. Support - -- The Talk Goblin 10:40, August 26, 2015 (UTC)
3. Support - Basically what Sane said. Wonder Talk ★★16:05,8/26/2015

Oppose

1. Oppose - It's a shield that was formed to protect Lucy and it was acknowledged as a barrier.
   :Umnei: 21:59, August 26, 2015 (UTC)
2. Oppose - I'm with Umnei, actually. Honestly, the only reason this is considered 'unnamed' is because I inquired whether Lucy calling it a 'water barrier' was just a general description or an actual name, and with Chaos, we sided with the former. However, if it does get deleted, I'd at least like it to stay at the Star Dress page, just without a link to any specific article. Otherwise, it feels kinda weird as every other Star Dress has a specifically pointed out ability or two... Miskos3 Message 22:04, August 26, 2015 (UTC)
3. Oppose - To me, this seems different from the other unnamed barriers. I don't know if it was actually how it was erected, or the fact that it was specifically identified as a barrier of water, or whatever else. There's more than one kind of uniformity, and the uniformity you guys are suggesting I think should be shunted aside for a different kind of uniformity and higher content quality.
   WrathZero 22:06, August 26, 2015 (UTC)
4. Oppose - What Misk and Nei-chan said. And as far as uniformity goes, we didn't get rid of all unnamed spells (just most) and some of the ones we did get rid of I really regret deleting. 夢Iam...  黒  JakuhōRaikōben死22:08,8/26/2015
5. Oppose - What the others said. Though I think putting it as part of the Star Dress would be even worse than deleting it alltogether, because the shield came up before Lucy was infused with power and put into the Star Dress by the CSK. NoNickNeeded (talk) 22:15, August 26, 2015 (UTC)
6. Oppose - Please don't ruin one of the best chapters for me. 00:54, August 27, 2015 (UTC)
7. Oppose - Naw this is an actual spell she gains from the star dress--Ncduru (talk) 01:09, August 27, 2015 (UTC)

Neutral

1. Neutral - I'll stay neutral on this. I thought all unnamed shields with no specific properties or intricate actions were to be deleted. If there is a chance that normal shields might be restored if this Spell stays, then I have no reason to support its deletion. --Sane Lunatic (talk) 22:41, August 26, 2015 (UTC)
2. Neutral - maybe this will be one of those exceptions where even if its unnamed its still unique enough to have a page like Water Bubbles. so i guess it all depends on the majority. LightningGeist 02:49, August 27, 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

• When Hades cast Darkness Shield, he said quite a bit of stuff. Even mentioned a darkness shield. A much better case for it being a Spell than Lucy saying 'Barrier made of water'. It was deleted.
• Erza's Lightning Shield required some quite precise actions to summon. Seems much more like a Spell than water rushing to its master's aid. It was deleted.
• I ... don't really remember many of the other unnamed shields, but quite a few of them required simple actions from the user. All of these seem much more like Spells than a simple barrier of water which has not even been summoned or been summoned involuntarily.
• If this Spell is to be kept for higher content quality, I'd like to suggest allowing discussions to restore some of the deleted Spells. --Sane Lunatic (talk) 22:32, August 26, 2015 (UTC)

If that's what it'll take to keep this page open, then I'll restore the pages after this discussion is over, if the opposition passes.
WrathZero 22:34, August 26, 2015 (UTC)

Deleted Votes

1. Support - --Sane Lunatic (talk) 22:32, August 26, 2015 (UTC)
2. Support - for uniformity LightningGeist 11:06, August 26, 2015 (UTC)