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The fact that it CAN be performed with a sword doesn't mean it's necessary a Holder-Type Magic, right? I mean, Holder Magic defines itself as magic that ABSOLUTELY requires an external source. And since you can also perform it with out any object makes it Caster Magic only. DarkblueFlow (talk) 23:30, February 8, 2013 (UTC)

It is true that it's not necessary in the anime, but in the manga it has always been seen being used with an item, therefore, it is categorized as Holder Magic RelikzBickslow Doll3Talk 03:22, February 9, 2013 (UTC)

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