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obviously a woman[]
Seeing as how Motherglare can produce eggs, and is well a mother, i think it is safe to assume their gender is female--Quoth The Raven "Nevermore" ' 22:10, May 10, 2013 (UTC)
yeah, but no male of any species can produce eggs, and the word mother is in "her" name, the word mother denotes a woman--Quoth The Raven "Nevermore" ' 22:14, May 10, 2013 (UTC)
- I just felt like pointing this out... after 20 days <.< Miskos3 Message 18:17, May 31, 2013 (UTC)
It could just be magic, or something that 'it' stored in it's body at some point, rather than actually giving birth. After all those things that come forth aren't actual baby Dragons. NoNickNeeded (talk) 22:20, May 10, 2013 (UTC)
My problem is that many of the other dragons are just assumed to be male and they haven't had any gender pronouns used on them either... while Motherglare is just an "it." That's pretty sexist. What's the harm with going for female pronouns until proven otherwise?—This unsigned comment was made by 68.34.186.108 (talk • contribs) .
- Because that would be a definite, and using a definite without proof is speculation, which we, I'm afraid, don't allow.
WrathZero 15:01, June 8, 2013 (UTC)
minions?[]
shouldn't we make a page for these minions? it doesn't even have a description on the eggmagic page --FirePit (talk) 16:55, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
- I was thinking the exact same thing. I'll talk to someone about it personally.
WrathZero 18:54, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
Done.
WrathZero 23:07, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
Gender[]
I see this conversation happened above but didn't go anywhere, so is it ever stated anywhere that Motherglare is male? They seem to be female. --Neffyarious (talk) 15:12, August 7, 2020 (UTC)
In the original japanese anime, motherglare was voiced by a male voice actor and can be heard having a deep voice which is similar to the majority of the proven male dragons unlike the female dragon grandeeney. Then the english dub of the anime choosed to assign a female voice actor to motherglare which is very likely due to assuming that its female because of the word "mother" in its name.
So since there is a contradiction between the two anime versions we would prioritize on the japanese version for the sake of accuracy. Think of it this way why would mashima allow the japanese animation team to voice motherglare that way in the first place instead of assigning a feminine voice and make it obvious that it was supposed to be female and as i remember mashima never bothered making it obvious that motherglare was female. Similar to how God serena was speculated to be female due to having a feminine name, its possible that the name motherglare was treated the same. LightningGeist 15:32, August 7, 2020 (UTC)
Sometimes characters are given voice actors different to the character's gender, it could have just been directed to give Motherglare a deep voice. I think it's speculating to say for certain that they are male and at the very least we should use neutral pronouns "they/them". The manga also apparently refers to them as a "mother dragon". --Neffyarious (talk) 16:06, August 7, 2020 (UTC)
I remember we did go with the gender neutral pronouns before it was decided to assume Motherglare was male until proven otherwise.Animaltamer701:49, August 8, 2020 (UTC)
Isn't that unnecessary speculation though? The fact that it's ambiguous and more points to them being female surely suggests that at the very least they shouldn't be listed as male. --Neffyarious (talk) 15:55, August 8, 2020 (UTC)
Gender, Once Again[]
Well to bring this up again, I've been thinking from the above conversations that we should probably use gender-neutral for Motherglare. Since I don't think we should use voice actors as a source for a character's gender. I also checked the chapters and raws, and no one calls Motherglare of either gender, the closest thing is that Motherglare used "watashi" to refer to their adamantine skin, which is used by both women and men. Animaltamer707:40, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
I'm ok with the use of gender-neutral pronouns and making motherglare's gender as unknown too due to never being clearly, consistently and specifically referred to being a male or female by both the official japanese and english manga and anime sources. Feel free to do the needed changes. LightningGeist 10:12, 28 August 2021 (UTC)