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Members Template

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Poor guy's missing out on the template at the bottom of every page for FT members. I'd add him to it myself if I knew how, but... Baithin 03:06, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Whoops, really sorry... though that I forgot someone... Thank you for reminding us! ChaosKnight 03:17, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Magic

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His magic hasn't really been revealed, so why does he have a magic section? It may be completely false. --Sparen (talk) 17:16, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Well, if he doesn't have any magic abilities, why is he in magic guild? Ishthak says 17:41, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

His reaction being in time with the dark guild suggests that he may be aligned with them, so he must have a kind of magic to join them. I'm guessing memory related, cuz in a story where all the main characters go 'hmm, come to think of it, when did X join us.' then surprise! False memories. Vegna Gunner 18:38, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Last Year's trial

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did mest nearly complete the S-class trial or he completed it and was close to winning(?)? i edited it to him nearly completing since what i read in the manga that he had completed it nor was close to winning. hope you guys don't mind ;A; Purplxholic 15:43, November 12, 2010 (UTC)Purplxholic

Direct Line

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I saw that his magic is called Direct Line, however when and where the manga said that his magic called Direct Line?

Direct Line isn't his magic style, but one of his moves that is based around his teleportation magic, moving him and Wendy at high speed. [1] Vegna Gunner 12:54, December 28, 2010 (UTC)

Wasn't direct line the attack used by Azuma? The explosions moving in a line? Least that was the impressionI was under, Doranbolt just seems to use general teleportation. Hawkeye2701 01:00, April 4, 2011 (UTC)

Name Change

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I believe it's time to move the page to his real name- Doranbolt. The ruse is up, so his page name being Mest Gryder is now irrelevant.Zicoihno ^{(Talk to Me)} 19:15, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

I've just handled that. Iam...JakuhoRaikoben 14:31, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Rune Knight

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I think it's safe to say that Doranbolt is a Head of a Division of the Rune Knights. He's been seen sporting the attire both on the cover of chapter 215 and in the anime. So, do you guys think we should wait to see if he's ever mentioned again or add it to his page.  Iam...JakuhōRaikōben  13:34,9/24/2011 

I'd say we should wait, as, according to me, his uniform implies a high rank amongst the Council's underlings, but not necessarily a membership of the Rune Knights. Maybe he belongs to some Intelligence divisions, due to the mission he was entrusted with...

-- Aldarinor  Talk  Contribs  13:56, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

The symbol on his outfit isn't the Magic Council's emblem. It belongs to the 180px-Rune Knights.jpg.  Iam...JakuhōRaikōben  14:48,9/24/2011 

Support - Relikz ^Talk 23:38, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Support -   BJ   01:05, September 29, 2011 (UTC)

personality

i tried to add his somewhat eccentric need to learn about new things to his personality section but i got deleted, why? (195.1.67.181 18:29, December 7, 2011 (UTC))

It is not really his personality since he was merely acting to make it look like he's a member of Fairy Tail.   BJ   19:03, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Volume 27 name change

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Well, I just purchased Volume 27, and it seems this character's name is different from the one used here: instead of Doranbolt, it is Doranbalt. Which, in all honestly, seems like a more accurate translation of his Japanese name ドランバルト; if it were "Doranbolt", I believe it would be spelled with a ボ (bo) instead of a バ (ba). And last I heard, correctness overtakes preference on this site. So...? Immblueversion (talk) 20:03, July 9, 2013 (UTC)

Oppose' - i oppose this name change, cause reasons--Quoth The Raven "Nevermore" ' 20:04, July 9, 2013 (UTC)

Neutral - It doesn't make much of a difference to me. I am more leaning towards "Support" because of what seems the correct spelling to me, but I will give my decisive vote once I've heard more users ( ._.)

Raven(S)talk20:43,7/9/2013

For the time being - I heard something from Umnei regarding this matter, but I'm gonna wait to ask him as I can't remember exactly what he said.
WrathZero 21:00, July 9, 2013 (UTC)

Is he not available for asking now? Immblueversion (talk) 03:06, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

He's out right now and I don't want to be rude.
WrathZero 03:08, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

They are not exactly accurate with translating Doranbolt's name because it is also spelt as how it is on our wiki, Doranbolt, in Volume 28. Plus, I brought this up to Chaos and it said it makes no difference to change, much like changing Zoldeo to Zoldio.
:Umnei: 05:14, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

Oh right, and Oppose - because Bolt sounds cooler than Balt.
:Umnei: 05:15, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

Oppose - Hell no.
--Fairy Tail Grand Master^{<F.T.G.M. >} 05:16, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

Well then, so much for correctness over preference. If you can even call transliterating "ba" as "ba" correct. Immblueversion (talk) 06:01, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry but are you proficient in Japanese to be mentioning "correctness over preference" to us? If so, I would think you would've and/or should've said something a loooong time ago. Our own translator prefers Doranbolt and ever since we first heard of his name, we've been using that spelling. A spelling that seemingly has had no translation doubts until Kodansha's noteless translation comes along. A translation that isn't even constant, mind you.
P.S: you typed "ba" twice.
:Umnei: 06:34, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

Neutral - Since it's such a minor change I don't care much either way, though I'd like to point out that in the anime, they do pronounce him as Doranbalt with ba. NoNickNeeded (talk) 08:05, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

Neutral - I'll go with majority... Yeah, I'm not helping xD Miskos3 Message 09:53, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

I know what I typed... And do you remember the incidents with the spellings for "Cuberos" (the kana leaned more towards "Cubellios" or "Cuberios")? Or "Bozo" (the wrong kana was used on this site for the longest time)? Or "Shitou Yajima" (it was just "Yajima")? Each of these names were not doubted for the longest time, yet when they were changed, at least one party admitted the spelling was based on some kind of mistake on their part. But what does it even matter at this point? These names have practically been circulated around the internet at this point that they might as well be considered "right". The original Wikipedia "Manual of Style" suggests using manga translations used in the primary official source material, yet every once in a while people change them to the fan translations because, let's face it, it's more official to them than the official stuff. It's not like everyone who reads Fairy Tail has at least some grasp of the Japanese language. I'm not a translator, or even particularly that fluent in Japanese... Very well, keep the name. Because let's face it, it's the name the Funimation dub's gonna use anyway because it's the one everyone uses everywhere. I'm just another part of the consumer cycle who can pick up on some things more than others, and some of those things turn out not to be that big a deal to the majority. So why even bother trying to fight it anymore... Immblueversion (talk) 11:07, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

Just give me the way Mashima spells it in English handwriting(not Japanese translated to English) and I'll stick to that. I would give up my way of saying it if that's the way the creator writes it, in other words, how the character writes his name. I respect someone's name(in real life too), and if I can't call him/her by his proper name, then I refer to him by his nickname or something but never by his real name if I can't pronounce or spell it right. I never remember someone's name is real life till I see the way he spells it.
--Fairy Tail Grand Master^{<F.T.G.M. >} 11:59, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

Oppose - Ugh... another name change vote discussion >____> And yes, I think 'Bolt' sounds much more better than 'Balt'.  11:17AM, July 10, 2013

Oppose - Ehmm...
MegaTalk 11:45, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

Oppose - Doesn't sound good. RifatTalk11:57,7/10/2013 

Oppose - Aww hell no. RainbowShifter 13:36, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

Oppose - Nope--GodPray 16:06,7/10/2013

Oppose - Just Sounds off. Mirasman3 20:24, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

Oppose - As Umnei has refreshed my memory as to the inconsistency in Kodansha's spelling.
WrathZero 23:38, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

Oppose - Nah...Bolt sounds better. Apple^Talk 12:05, 11 July, 2013

Doranbolt's Magic

Hm! This wikia only say he can add his existence to other's memories. I would like to point out that in a chapter, he was able to erase the memories of the Magic Council and Lahar(as well as some others) concerning events with something I cannot remember at the moment. It was such a feat even Jellal was astonished at his power and how he's even in the Council. I can't remember what chapter it happen But I will likely add it If I do find it. His memory control extends to beyond just adding existence. That I know.

Also, I'm aware you the wikia also posts various abilities charactrers display in video-games even when they don't really do it in Manga or Anime, such as Makarov using lighting magic when in the manga/anime, he uses Light Magic as his main offense. But I'm surprised no one knew Doranbolt was also skilled in some other magic...I'm not sure what it is, though. It looks like hypnosis to me. I came across it while looking at people play Zeref's Awakening the on youtube. I'm not sure what it is, but it seems like Hypnosis to me only because he sways his arms up and down in a "S" manner like a snake and releases some type of energy swirl. When I think about the swaying arms and swirls, hypnosis comes to mind. But I'm not an expert on Fairy Tail.

Just wanted to point some things out about Doranbolt that I found when getting into Fairy Tail. Not completely sure on how his abilties exactly work. He's not a Mage you see typically in battle. He lost all battles he was involved in. He's normally a Mage that works in the Background due to his expertise. Just wanted to try and help expand on him as far as abilities. Though I just don't know the context on the first one just cause I'm getting back into Fairy Tail and concerning the second paragraph, I have no idea what I actually saw.

JayAaerow (talk) 21:37, January 10, 2014 (UTC)

Sorry but we can't do anything without a reference; so we cannot add that until then.

We didn't add that Makarov uses Lightning Magic because of a video-game, but because his guild card said he did. The Fairy Tail Gekitou! games just took advantage of that to add spells in the game. About the spell used by Doranbolt, that is just an opinion, and until we get some confirmation on what that spell actually is, we also can't do anything about it. Sorry for all these nos :( But we appreciate you trying to help! :) 04:22, January 11, 2014 (UTC)

• There's no reason for you to apologize! I was merely just stating what I found. I was hoping someone would be like "OH! I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT" and help from there! That's fine. I found the reference, luckily, with some research! Though I don't know about the second thing. I was also hoping someone would know something about it. Meh! I'll see If I can do some research. Perhaps Walkthroughs will talk about it! Thanks for replying!JayAaerow (talk) 10:40, January 11, 2014 (UTC)

No problem! Can you give us the reference? Maybe we can work something from it. 17:14, January 11, 2014 (UTC)

• Already done with Doranbolt's Memory control. :P It's on his page. JayAaerow (talk) 08:43, January 13, 2014 (UTC)

Zeref's Awakening Doranbolt Spells

While I don't quite know Japanese, I did manage to find a way to extract the games moves names in Zeref's Awaknening, Particularly Doranbolt's spells (Twas always curious bout his magic). I'm not sure how you do it here in terms of translation. I wanted to provide the name and what it does within the game. But I won't proceed until you translate the name before adding information. Here's the kanji i managed to get out and here's the In-Game list I got from my phone:

• 瞬間移動、 • 突進
• 瞬間移動、 • 打上
• 記憶操作
• 瞬間移動、 • 猛襲

Hopefully this will help you out If anyone is interested. I just wanted to provide information not really known. And Doranbolt, for some reason, is one of my favorite characters. I triple check to make sure the characters matched the game.

EDIT: Just wanna put out an awareness here since it was missed the first time. --JayAaerow {talk} 06:14, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

Name vs. Alias

So as per chapter 438 I think he should be renamed to Mest Gryder, with his alias being Doranbolt... thoughts? Raven(S)talk10:46,6/1/2015

Honestly no need for discussion. It was stated that his name is Mest Gryder. So Mest Gryder it shall be. ^____^ 夢Iam...  黒  JakuhōRaikōben死12:48,6/1/2015

Aye. I think that Doranbolt was an alias he used in the Council, with his real name being Mest Gryder. I believe then, that his affiliation with Fairy Tail comes first, we don't even know if he's still a council member. Insivel (talk) 15:31, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

Any objections before I move forward w/ zah change? :P 夢Iam...  黒  JakuhōRaikōben死19:22,6/1/2015

Yeah, are we changing every instance of the name Doranbolt? For instance, for a certain period he was referred to as Doranbolt, so on say, Jellal's page, during the Grand Magic Games arc, do we say Jellal came into contact with Doranbolt, or Mest? Because on people like Yury's page, when Hades was Precht, we refer to him with his name of that time.
WrathZero 19:27, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

Damn that's confusing!! And I think we should just leave references to Doranbolt as Doranbolt because he was indeed Doranbolt at the time. I think we did the same thing for the Mest references during the S-Class Trial arc. Lol, so now his name on some pages will jump from Mest to Doranbolt back to Mest. :D If Mashima trolls us again, I'm going to stab him. >_> 夢Iam...  黒  JakuhōRaikōben死19:31,6/1/2015

So just do what we did with Michelle, then? Add quotes, so it'd be "Doranbolt", indicating that it isn't his real name whilst still establishing that that is how he is referred to?
WrathZero 19:33, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

I don't think quotes are necessary because Doranbolt is just an alias, whereas Imitatia was actually pretending to be an actual person named Michelle. 夢Iam...  黒  JakuhōRaikōben死19:38,6/1/2015

Have fun, Wrath-- God · Pray · 19:40,6/1/2015 

Well, it's better off being done by hand, not by bot, because then you'll end changing more shit to Mest from Doranbolt and then have to change it back. Chapter and Episode character lists should also be Mest Gryder regardless of whether or not he was Doranbolt at the time or not.
WrathZero 19:44, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

Since not much is really changing, I don't think it'll be all that difficult by hand. Also, I disagree. I think the Chapter and Episode lists should reflect who he was at the time as well. That's how we did it for Ultear (aka Zalty) and that's how we did it for Mest when he was pretending to be Mest (before we knew that he was actually Mest. 夢Iam...  黒  JakuhōRaikōben死19:51,6/1/2015

I always thought Doranbolt was his real name and Mest was the alias? I'm really confused now. Animefan850 (talk) 05:13, February 9, 2016 (UTC)

Memory Control Capabilities?

I'm wanting to edit regarding his Memory Control capabilities. However, I just have a question that I rather have people come to a consensus first:

• I'm not 100% sure If I should add back the fact he manage to use Memory Control on Makarov and worked since Makarov was the one who consistently knew he did...though the chapter today implied that he did do so. I was always under the impression he did and it worked until Pantherlily invesitgated and found out, undoing that modification.
• We actually see his magic work in action with Mest literally showing the cast his memories. Do we list it as a capability of Memory Control or do we go a bit more specific by having it as one of the various unnamed spells?

JayAaerow (talk) 14:00, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

Well since I'm editing the page right now, I can add whatever it is you want to, to prevent edit conflicts and such. Mest says he used his memory control on Makarov to make him think that he was a member of the guild, which if he says he did, then he did. It's weird and borderline pointless, but it's a thing. Also yes, it will just be added to the description of memory control. No need for an unnamed spell.
WrathZero 14:05, June 8, 2015 (UTC)