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==Suggestions main page==
== why are they even there? ==
 
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Hi I've been looking at the Wiki and I was wondering if it's possible to add/change a few things. I think if the following changes are implemented it could boost member contribution and help new fans.
Why are hades,ultear,knightwalker,azuma,and jose on the main page under that welcome to the fairy tail wikia thing? their not even main characters. why not exchange them with makarov or some actually top protagonists? --[[User:Imhungry4444| Troll King Imhungry4444]] 23:35, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
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'''Add a short synopsis that introduces the series to new fans. For example:'''
Becuase the top row displays protagonists and the bottom row displays antagonists. {{User:IamJakuhoRaikoben/Sig3|23:36,10/10/2011}}
 
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<br>Fairy Tail is a manga series written and illustrated by Hiro Mashima. The story centers around the adventures of Natsu Dragneel, a member of the wizard guild Fairy Tail, as he searches the fictional world of Earth-land for the dragon Igneel. During his quest, he makes a bunch of friends and enemies.
   
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'''Contribution box'''
ah well that makes sense but idk if azuma or knightwalker should be there. why not brain and faust? --[[User:Imhungry4444| Troll King Imhungry4444]] 01:11, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
 
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<br>Fairy Tail is a wiki dedicated to everything about the Manga and Anime Fairy Tail created by Hiro Mashima. We aim to archive Fairy Tail and all related material. And as a fan of the series you can help us out! Join our many Guilds and see where you can lend your many talents. Be part of our journey into making the Fairy Tail Wiki the best one ever!
   
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'''Instead featured picture a featured villain'''
True, both of them were the leaders of their respective arcs, I'll trade them now. {{User:IamJakuhoRaikoben/Sig3|01:19,10/11/2011}}
 
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<br>This triggers the visitor to go to that page and see why it's featured.
   
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'''Spoiler warning'''
== Funimation dub episode titles and character quotations ==
 
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<br>Add a spoiler warning before getting to the featured article section. That way readers don't accidentally read the latest developments in the series.
I was thinking, now that the Fairy Tail anime is being dubbed by Funimation, should the episode titles be changed to correspond to the official English title cards as translated and provided by the Funimation release? For example:
 
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--[[User:Zuleika B|Zuleika B]] ([[User talk:Zuleika B|talk]]) 09:55, July 12, 2019 (UTC)
   
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In my opinion adding a '''Adding a short synopsis that introduces the series to new fans''' is not needed since such intro already exist in the [[Fairy Tail (Series)]] page since that page itself is about the fairy tail series as a whole. Adding it in the mainpage makes it seems that the wiki is only limited to the main manga which already ended and the anime series which is about to end but its actually not since the whole wiki also has infos from other sources such as spinoffs, movies, games and more aside from the main manga and anime series. I think the intro itself should be more generalized or neutral instead of only focusing stuffs about the manga and anime.
#"[[Fairy Tail (Episode)]]" --> "The Fairy Tail"
 
#"[[The Fire Dragon, the Monkey, and the Ox]]" --> "Fire Dragon, Monkey, and Bull"
 
#"[[Infiltrate! The Everlue Mansion!]]" --> "Infiltrate the Everlue Mansion"
 
#"[[DEAR KABY]]" --> "Dear Kaby"
 
   
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As for the '''contribution box''' i think that can be added in the mainpage but the wiki guilds are currently inactive and promoting it to have members while no trusted and active editor to oversee it will be counterproductive since people who wants to contribute should follow a uniformed format and quality all over the wiki. At best if they really want to contribute then they can just do it on their own for now and familiarize with the wiki's format and policies. Back then there are random editors who wanted to join the guilds without actually ever contributing to the wiki.
If for whatever reason people may choose the unofficial, "literal" translations of the episode titles to be kept (for example, the title of episode 3 contains punctuations that are removed from the Funimation translation), could there possibly be an additional section in the episode template featuring such a translation? And while the remaining episodes uploaded online by Funimation do feature English translations via subtitles, I am more in favor of waiting until those episodes have official English title cards, but only if this change is accepted.
 
   
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As for '''changing the featured image to featured villain''' i personally don't agree with it for now since various iconic villains are already listed in the mainpage making it redundant, next switching from one villain to another will be very limiting since there aren't that many villains that are worth featuring and at most a lot of them were already featured before so it's likely that they'll just be repeated over and over again compared to a fairy tail image being featured which is more broader like in the past we also featured movie posters to promote the movies, manga image to promote the latest manga being released and now anime images to promote the latest anime episode. So i think since the anime series is about to end its better to focus on that first and once its over the featured image could then focus on the fairy tail sequel images to promote it too.
On a minor note, I noticed that all quotations taken from the series are based on fan translations. Granted, there are many manga chapters and anime episodes that are without official translations and such, but for those who have been officially released in English, would it be out of the question to replace them with quotations from the Del Ray/Kodansha manga translations, if not the Funimation dub (though I feel it would be more ideal to use the manga, since that is what Fairy Tail primarily is), or would it be too much trouble?
 
   
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When it comes to adding a '''Spoiler warning''' for the featured article i believe it's unnecessary since the whole wiki is already filled with spoilers. Even by just using the internet will have anyone be exposed to spoilers be it fan arts, social medias, blogs, forums, videos, wikipedia pages and news articles. The way this wiki sees it is that once the latest fairy tail related informations were released then encountering spoilers everywhere should already be expected. Im sure even if this wiki never existed spoilers will still be unavoidable especially when the main manga has already ended years ago and the anime series is about to end soon. {{User:LightningGeist/Sig1}} 12:12, July 12, 2019 (UTC)
I hope you will consider this proposition. [[User:Immblueversion|Immblueversion]] 17:18, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
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Hi. I'll begin slightly off-topic: '''please''', whoever did it, '''''revert''''' the changes done to the character portal. It looks ugly with three rows, not to mention that the space between row 2 and 3 is smaller than between row 1 and 2. The single manga picture makes it look really bad. Such changes should be discussed first. @LG, @Nc
See the discussion [[Forum:Should we use the official subtitle episode names by Funimation?|here]]. However, I'll try to add the FUNimation title on the template. {{User:Rauleli/Sig2}} 19:18, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
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;Short synopsis
I would be against using the Del Rey/Kodansha as well as the Funmation translations as I'm not familiar with them or how they are run. If they change something for censorship purposes or because they think some wording fits better than another then we would have incorrect translations on the site. {{User:IamJakuhoRaikoben/Sig3|21:06,10/18/2011}}
 
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I'm fine with this. If it's a short paragraph that won't take much place, it can only help.
   
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;Contribution box
Well, if we're only limiting the importance of official translations to determine how character names are spelled, then I guess I slightly overestimated something here. [[User:Immblueversion|Immblueversion]] 00:37, October 19, 2011 (UTC)
 
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As LG mentioned, the guilds on the wiki haven't been in function for a long time, however, there are still leftover jobs, so I'd suggest condensing them into a single "guild" page - i.e. list all the tasks that need to be done in a clever format (summaries, pages, pictures needed, etc.) and then link that on the main page.
   
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;Featured villain (or any other type of character, really...)
We use Kodansha for the name translations because Mashima does the english translation for those himself, however naturally he does not do the entire volumes, so... {{User:IamJakuhoRaikoben/Sig3|00:42,10/19/2011}}
 
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I'd start doing this after the anime is over. For now, it features an image from each new episode every week, for a week. I'd like to keep doing this until the end of the series' run and then start featuring other things.
   
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;Spoiler warning
== New dub actors? ==
 
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I also don't think the spoiler warning is necessary. It never was. It's obvious that the wiki is full of information about the series, so entering it while not caught up is just asking for obvious problems.
   
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{{User:Miskos3/Sig4}} 09:19, July 14, 2019 (UTC)
As of yesterday, the first Fairy Tail Blu-ray/DVD box set has been released to those who pre-ordered it on the online shopping website "Right Stuf". According to those who obtained it (I am not one of them), the voice cast lists for episodes 4 and 12 have confirmed the English voices for two characters whose English voices were previously unknown: reportedly, [[Cancer]] is played by [http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=75437 Will Short], and the young [[Gray Fullbuster]] is played by one [http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=73124 Ryan Reynolds] (''not'' the live action actor; this Ryan Reynolds is a woman and a real Funimation voice actress). Should we wait for an actual video to be uploaded and verify these claims, or should I just go ahead and add these? [[User:Immblueversion|Immblueversion]] 02:00, October 20, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
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Thank you guys for considering my suggestions. I believe the contribution part is the most important one and putting the tasks on a single page would greatly boost contributions. I'll keep track of these pages (and on discord) and see where I can help.
Hmm... I think that'd be fine since it's just two characters. Though you are going to have to link us to one of these conversations before it can be done. {{User:IamJakuhoRaikoben/Sig3|02:40,10/20/2011}}
 
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[[User:Zuleika B|Zuleika B]] ([[User talk:Zuleika B|talk]]) 07:14, July 15, 2019 (UTC)
   
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I'll get to making the page as soon as I have some free time then. {{User:Miskos3/Sig4}} 07:48, July 15, 2019 (UTC)
Unfortunately, this was via PMing on YouTube with a person who verified that s/he obtained a copy of the DVD by uploading a clip from an episode that has not been uploaded by Funimation previously. So unless there's a special method, I wouldn't be able to link you in any way I can think of. [[User:Immblueversion|Immblueversion]] 18:33, October 20, 2011 (UTC)
 
   
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==Rows Voting==
Would it at least be possible to link me to this person's youtube account so I can see the video? If so that should be enough for the change to be enacted. It's not that I think you are lying or anything, it's just it's always best to have at least some proof. {{User:IamJakuhoRaikoben/Sig3|22:01,10/20/2011}}
 
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Voting for 3 rows character portals, top 2 rows are main/prominent side characters, both row all villains. Other wikis like [https://bokunoheroacademia.fandom.com/wiki/My_Hero_Academia_Wiki my hero academia] manage 3 rows fine plus it's outdated like with alot of things on the wiki, 14 characters doesn't express well FT's big cast and it'll encourage more users to click on few characters they're curious on and possibly edit. Alvarez is longest story arc with no reflection in the character portals. Me and Lightning both thought it looks fresh and updated, just removing it is disencouraging when it comes to editing for me when the wiki doesn't have many editors anymore so for the ones that still edit it's refreshing... that's my case, it adds to the wiki and takes away nothing, adds more variety and I've already looked at the coding and it's fine and everything is readable
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We have an entire Characters page that displays how big the cast of FT is; the point of the portal was always to display the same amount of protagonists and antagonists, and there is virtually no reason to change it. As I said, from visual point of view, it was bad; three rows just don't look good with our design and even the MHA one is questionable, but they also don't have the final row with the guilds, in our case it actually creates 4 rows that take up a huge amount of space and it just looks bad. At MHA wiki, they have other elements on the page that are big(ger), so it works somewhat. It wouldn't, and didn't here. Not to mention the space between rows not being the same, and that one manga image being out of place, both visually and otherwise. Also, in the future maybe consult other active users about such major changes. {{User:Miskos3/Sig4}} 15:33, July 16, 2019 (UTC)
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Hi guys! 久しぶり! After going back and looking at the proposed portal change... I tend to agree with Misk. >__< Three rows for a character portal in general doesn't bother me and the three row portal works for the MHA main page, but for our main page it does indeed make it look clunky rather than sleek (as it was intended). I will say though that perhaps Minerva should be switched out with Acnologia or someone else. :/ Gomen. {{User:IamJakuhoRaikoben/Sig9}}16:33,7/16/2019
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'''3 rows''' (top and middle row main or prominent characters/bottom row villains)
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#{{Support}}--{{User:Ncduru/Sig2}} 11:36, July 16, 2019 (UTC)
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#{{Support}}--<span style="color: deeppink">"You can call me NaLu Trash Boat!"</span> [[User:SilverthehedgehogMan|SilverthehedgehogMan]] ( [[User talk:SilverthehedgehogMan|talk]] ) 16:07, July 28, 2019 (UTC)
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'''2 rows'''
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#{{Support}} {{User:Miskos3/Sig4}} 15:33, July 16, 2019 (UTC)
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#{{Support}} {{User:IamJakuhoRaikoben/Sig9}}16:33,7/16/2019
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#{{Support}} {{User:Derax-Pagani/Sig2}} 20:00, July 16, 2019 (UTC)
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#{{Support}} {{User:Animaltamer7/Sig}}02:59, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
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#{{Support}} {{User:WonderfulUnicorn/Sig1|11:15,7/17/2019}}
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==Mard Geer in the row==
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I noticed that the thumbnail used for the row is different to the profile photo in Mard's Character page. I checked all the other ones and they all seem to match with their own character page, and only Mard is different. Should it stay with the consistency to Mard's thumbnail be the same with the character page or change the character page to match with the homepage thumbnail.
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[[User:Tonyojimbo|Tonyojimbo]] ([[User talk:Tonyojimbo|talk]]) 07:29, August 8, 2019 (UTC)
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We can just leave it as it is since the there was a vote on mard geer's profile image and the image seen in his personal page was voted by the majority. If we used that same image for the main page then it will create an inconsistent format with the rest of the profile photos listed in those rows.
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So in the end mard geer's profile page will have the image voted by the majority of the editors and his image for the main page will follow the used by the rest for the sake of consistency in the main page.{{User:LightningGeist/Sig1}} 08:45, August 8, 2019 (UTC)

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Suggestions main page

Hi I've been looking at the Wiki and I was wondering if it's possible to add/change a few things. I think if the following changes are implemented it could boost member contribution and help new fans.

Add a short synopsis that introduces the series to new fans. For example:
Fairy Tail is a manga series written and illustrated by Hiro Mashima. The story centers around the adventures of Natsu Dragneel, a member of the wizard guild Fairy Tail, as he searches the fictional world of Earth-land for the dragon Igneel. During his quest, he makes a bunch of friends and enemies.

Contribution box
Fairy Tail is a wiki dedicated to everything about the Manga and Anime Fairy Tail created by Hiro Mashima. We aim to archive Fairy Tail and all related material. And as a fan of the series you can help us out! Join our many Guilds and see where you can lend your many talents. Be part of our journey into making the Fairy Tail Wiki the best one ever!

Instead featured picture a featured villain
This triggers the visitor to go to that page and see why it's featured.

Spoiler warning
Add a spoiler warning before getting to the featured article section. That way readers don't accidentally read the latest developments in the series. --Zuleika B (talk) 09:55, July 12, 2019 (UTC)

In my opinion adding a Adding a short synopsis that introduces the series to new fans is not needed since such intro already exist in the Fairy Tail (Series) page since that page itself is about the fairy tail series as a whole. Adding it in the mainpage makes it seems that the wiki is only limited to the main manga which already ended and the anime series which is about to end but its actually not since the whole wiki also has infos from other sources such as spinoffs, movies, games and more aside from the main manga and anime series. I think the intro itself should be more generalized or neutral instead of only focusing stuffs about the manga and anime.

As for the contribution box i think that can be added in the mainpage but the wiki guilds are currently inactive and promoting it to have members while no trusted and active editor to oversee it will be counterproductive since people who wants to contribute should follow a uniformed format and quality all over the wiki. At best if they really want to contribute then they can just do it on their own for now and familiarize with the wiki's format and policies. Back then there are random editors who wanted to join the guilds without actually ever contributing to the wiki.

As for changing the featured image to featured villain i personally don't agree with it for now since various iconic villains are already listed in the mainpage making it redundant, next switching from one villain to another will be very limiting since there aren't that many villains that are worth featuring and at most a lot of them were already featured before so it's likely that they'll just be repeated over and over again compared to a fairy tail image being featured which is more broader like in the past we also featured movie posters to promote the movies, manga image to promote the latest manga being released and now anime images to promote the latest anime episode. So i think since the anime series is about to end its better to focus on that first and once its over the featured image could then focus on the fairy tail sequel images to promote it too.

When it comes to adding a Spoiler warning for the featured article i believe it's unnecessary since the whole wiki is already filled with spoilers. Even by just using the internet will have anyone be exposed to spoilers be it fan arts, social medias, blogs, forums, videos, wikipedia pages and news articles. The way this wiki sees it is that once the latest fairy tail related informations were released then encountering spoilers everywhere should already be expected. Im sure even if this wiki never existed spoilers will still be unavoidable especially when the main manga has already ended years ago and the anime series is about to end soon. LightningGeistRead about Laxus? 12:12, July 12, 2019 (UTC)

Hi. I'll begin slightly off-topic: please, whoever did it, revert the changes done to the character portal. It looks ugly with three rows, not to mention that the space between row 2 and 3 is smaller than between row 1 and 2. The single manga picture makes it look really bad. Such changes should be discussed first. @LG, @Nc

Short synopsis

I'm fine with this. If it's a short paragraph that won't take much place, it can only help.

Contribution box

As LG mentioned, the guilds on the wiki haven't been in function for a long time, however, there are still leftover jobs, so I'd suggest condensing them into a single "guild" page - i.e. list all the tasks that need to be done in a clever format (summaries, pages, pictures needed, etc.) and then link that on the main page.

Featured villain (or any other type of character, really...)

I'd start doing this after the anime is over. For now, it features an image from each new episode every week, for a week. I'd like to keep doing this until the end of the series' run and then start featuring other things.

Spoiler warning

I also don't think the spoiler warning is necessary. It never was. It's obvious that the wiki is full of information about the series, so entering it while not caught up is just asking for obvious problems.

 Miskos3  Message  09:19, July 14, 2019 (UTC)

Thank you guys for considering my suggestions. I believe the contribution part is the most important one and putting the tasks on a single page would greatly boost contributions. I'll keep track of these pages (and on discord) and see where I can help. Zuleika B (talk) 07:14, July 15, 2019 (UTC)

I'll get to making the page as soon as I have some free time then.  Miskos3  Message  07:48, July 15, 2019 (UTC)

Rows Voting

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion is:
2 rows
Please do not edit this discussion.

Voting for 3 rows character portals, top 2 rows are main/prominent side characters, both row all villains. Other wikis like my hero academia manage 3 rows fine plus it's outdated like with alot of things on the wiki, 14 characters doesn't express well FT's big cast and it'll encourage more users to click on few characters they're curious on and possibly edit. Alvarez is longest story arc with no reflection in the character portals. Me and Lightning both thought it looks fresh and updated, just removing it is disencouraging when it comes to editing for me when the wiki doesn't have many editors anymore so for the ones that still edit it's refreshing... that's my case, it adds to the wiki and takes away nothing, adds more variety and I've already looked at the coding and it's fine and everything is readable

We have an entire Characters page that displays how big the cast of FT is; the point of the portal was always to display the same amount of protagonists and antagonists, and there is virtually no reason to change it. As I said, from visual point of view, it was bad; three rows just don't look good with our design and even the MHA one is questionable, but they also don't have the final row with the guilds, in our case it actually creates 4 rows that take up a huge amount of space and it just looks bad. At MHA wiki, they have other elements on the page that are big(ger), so it works somewhat. It wouldn't, and didn't here. Not to mention the space between rows not being the same, and that one manga image being out of place, both visually and otherwise. Also, in the future maybe consult other active users about such major changes.  Miskos3  Message  15:33, July 16, 2019 (UTC)

Hi guys! 久しぶり! After going back and looking at the proposed portal change... I tend to agree with Misk. >__< Three rows for a character portal in general doesn't bother me and the three row portal works for the MHA main page, but for our main page it does indeed make it look clunky rather than sleek (as it was intended). I will say though that perhaps Minerva should be switched out with Acnologia or someone else. :/ Gomen. Iam...    JakuhōRaikōben16:33,7/16/2019

3 rows (top and middle row main or prominent characters/bottom row villains)

  1. Support Support ---Ncduru 11:36, July 16, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Support Support ---"You can call me NaLu Trash Boat!" SilverthehedgehogMan ( talk ) 16:07, July 28, 2019 (UTC)

2 rows

  1. Support Support -  Miskos3  Message  15:33, July 16, 2019 (UTC)
  2. Support Support - Iam...    JakuhōRaikōben16:33,7/16/2019
  3. Support Support - Derax PaganiLeave me a message here 20:00, July 16, 2019 (UTC)
  4. Support Support - Aries PNGAnimaltamer7Aries02:59, July 17, 2019 (UTC)
  5. Support Support - Onfire.gif Wonder Talk 11:15,7/17/2019

Mard Geer in the row

I noticed that the thumbnail used for the row is different to the profile photo in Mard's Character page. I checked all the other ones and they all seem to match with their own character page, and only Mard is different. Should it stay with the consistency to Mard's thumbnail be the same with the character page or change the character page to match with the homepage thumbnail. Tonyojimbo (talk) 07:29, August 8, 2019 (UTC)

We can just leave it as it is since the there was a vote on mard geer's profile image and the image seen in his personal page was voted by the majority. If we used that same image for the main page then it will create an inconsistent format with the rest of the profile photos listed in those rows.

So in the end mard geer's profile page will have the image voted by the majority of the editors and his image for the main page will follow the used by the rest for the sake of consistency in the main page.LightningGeistRead about Laxus? 08:45, August 8, 2019 (UTC)