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Ability
The summary is seemingly just Laxus' ability section summary, it just needs to say basic stuff on lightning magic.Zicoihno 01:16, January 22, 2011 (UTC)
Casting
Can Cana cast Lightning Spells? Presuming that she uses Card Magic must her spells should fall under the said magic.—This unsigned comment was made by 112.205.55.243 (talk • contribs) .
Cana has not been shown using Lighting Magic. Lightning Magic is a Caster-type Magic while Card Magic is a Holder-type Magic and this is what Cana uses. Her card spells may invoke lightning but this is not Lightning Magic. 
Ultraprime2Let's talk
15:43, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
- Wait. Stranger things have happened. We're gonna settle this. I've got a lot of odd thoughts going on.
Ultraprime2Let's talk 16:12, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah. Needs a talk. Ultraprime2Let's talk 20:25, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
Type of Magic
As you can see above, the wondering began as to whether or not Cana could cast Lightning Spells. She's currently listed as a user of this Magic on the page but not on her own page. As we know, she's only used lightning-based spells in the anime. However, that's entirely due to her using Card Magic to do so.
A similar situation exists with Erza, who only used lightning through her Lightning Empress Armor. This is Holder Magic through which she used it and is also listed as a user of this Magic.
Basically, I think we need to decide on what kind of Magic this is and who we, as a result, will list as its users. The description of the Magic states it's Caster-type while the template lists it as both Caster-type and Holder-type. I can't recall any other Magic being listed as both types. As far as I remember, they're either one or the other.
Depending on what we conclude it to be, the page may or may not need reorganization and removals. Other Magic pages may need a look as well depending on how this goes.
Just had a talk in chat about this so I feel now is the time to give opinions. Ultraprime2Let's talk 20:25, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
Just in case the above isn't clear: Do we name this as solely Caster-type or Caster as well as Holder? We have both types of spells listed on the page.
I now recall Sleep Magic is both. Should this be as well?
Actually, Ultra, despite my level of assurance of what I said on chat, I feel like it's a touchy subject. However, spells like Water Slash and Flame Slash, which are products of Sword Magic, are also classified as both Water and Fire Magic respectively, so perhaps it is the same predicament with Cana's spells?
I'm pleased you opened a discussion about this. It had me conflicting for a bit and luckily, the community can just discuss and vote, if need be.
.:Umy:.
20:42, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
Agh! So conflicting! I went on Erza's profile and it independently lists each magic under her Magic, with the name of the armor that it is used with. I'm not sure what we can do about Cana...
.:Umy:. 20:44, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, I was talking to Chaos about it and it was decided this was an odd issue and needs a talk. Your examples are both good and furthermore, Fire Magic is stated to be a Caster-type Magic but Flame Slash, listed there as a Fire Magic Spell, is only useable through the F.Empress Armor, which is Holder Magic. So you can see why I think this needs to be settled. My internet also keeps dying on me >_>Ultraprime2Let's talk 20:47, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
I do believe that Cana can utilize Lightning Magic and it can be employed by both Caster and Holder type of Magic. The same goes with Sleep Magic which was brought up by Ultra which uses both types of magic, wherein with the use of staves, rings and cards the user can perform sleep magic as well as caster type Mirajane who can use Dream Knock.
KOKO
ROCHAS 21:02, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
Ok, this is how I see it. Flame Slash, Water Slash and Lightning Empress Armor's lightning spells are categorized as their element's Magic (ex. Fire Magic, Water Magic and Lightning Magic) because they are used with magical swords that produce the elements and Erza can use them when she wants and how she wants. However, Cana's Magic allows her to use the cards, but she has no control over what effects her Cards make. In other words, Cana can "release" the effect of a card, but that's it, she has no Magic over the lightning, fire or anything she makes. So Cana's spells shouldn't be listed in my opinion. Relikz
Talk 21:04, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
If that is the case then there should also be a discussion over Bora's sleep Magic since he can only "release" it with the use of a ring. Furthermore, regarding Cana's control over lightning, it was shown during Cana and Lucy's fight against Freed and Bickslow that she waited for the right moment until Freed is in the right position before she can electrocute Freed using her cards. Kindly check the second version of Summoned Lightning.
KOKOROCHAS 21:21, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
- Yup. Bora can use Charm, not Sleep Magic. Cana released the effect of the cards around Freed, she didn't manipulate the lightning... RelikzTalk 21:27, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah I agree with Leli. Cana casts it but doesn't manipulate it, whereas Erza's various armors also describe the element that it manipulates. The big issue with this is that alot of changes will occur now... Dual-classing Lightning Magic would mean we would have to dual-class Ice Magic, Fire Magic, Wind Magic etc., but this option is best imo since we don't have to change as much. (trust me, I thought about the possibilities of what would happen depending on the outcome of this discussion lol)
.:Umy:. 01:57, January 5, 2013 (UTC)
I agree with Rauleli too, I think Cana can't cast Lightning Magic. However, some king of magics (Just like Sleep Magic) should be classified as Caster-Holder Type. MiraMajin
Talk! 02:00,1/11/2013