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The quote on the top of her page was what she was yelling at to Meredy, but could we change it to what she said to pacify Meredy? I dont remember it but I feel like that was more heartwarming and quote-worthy Umnei 19:31, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

You'd have to provide us with the exact quote you are proposing and then the community will vote on it. Bickslow Doll 2 Relikz Talk (Talk Page) 20:44, April 11, 2012 (UTC)

It's actually the last quote in her Quotes section, "Juvia lives for the ones that she love! You've got to as well. If you have love in your life, then you must keep on living!" I like that :) Umnei 06:44, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

Discussion: Changing the quote on the top of the page.

Current "This woman is after Gray-sama for her irrational needs. How can I possibly calm down? There's no way I'll forgive that woman!"
Proposed "Juvia lives for the ones that she love! You've got to as well. If you have love in your life, then you must keep on living!"

Tutles Sig 10:38, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

Support Support -, although the current one depicts Juvia's usual personality a little better, but the proposed is way cuter Herme23:35,4/24/2012

Neutral Neutral - Meh, I'm fine either way... Jakuho Fairy Tail Edolas Symbol Talk ph 23:40,4/24/2012

Oppose Oppose - I prefer scary Juvia XD much more epic RelikzBickslow Doll3Talk 02:23, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

Neutral Neutral - Both works... Tutles Sig 13:06, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

Support Support - I think this one better coz Juvia is best when she is speaks of love Gildarts CliveNatsu and Happy 17:05, April 27, 2012 (UTC)

wings of love

when juvia in naval battle, she say she acquired unique spell because of second origin, called wings of love or gray's love or whatever haha. is that really new spell?
--Monterico (talk) 02:16, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

I think Juvia was just being her usual stalker self... RelikzBickslow Doll3Talk 00:09, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

haha you maybe right. feel free to undo my revisions then --Monterico (talk) 00:30, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

juvia's good senses

she can sense magic as well right? for example is the twin dragons vs. Natsu, she's able to sense how strong the magic is.. *which mirajane agrees with juvia's comment.. also she can predict too.. *is this keen intellect? there's a lot of chapters that proves it, one thing is in LAxus vs. Alexei fight,,she somehow feels uneasy.. —This unsigned comment was made by (talkcontribs) .

Almost every Mage, most specifically high-level ones, seem to possess the ability to detect high levels of Magical Power. It is not really essential to implement that fact onto their pages.
.:Umy:.Juvia'sPictureForUmneiSignature 14:58, April 10, 2013 (UTC)

Grammer Note

Would it be wise to note that when Juvia screamed Gray's name, for the first time she didn't add the "-sama" after it? It could easily be integrated into her most recent synopsis edit, but I wanted someone else's opinion on it. It seems important to me, it must say something about the situation they are in (or how Juvia herself feels) for Juvia not to add the "-sama" after Gray's name. --R. Lawton (talk) 17:18, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think its notable--GodKingdraPray 17:22,6/9/2013

Juvia's Hair?

(sorry in advance if I didn't post this right, it's my first time posting on a wikia site)

Something has been bothering me for a while now: what is Juvia's real hair colour we should go by? In the anime, it is portrayed more as dark blue with light blue highlights when she is in the sunlight. In the manga, it is simply light blue (see covers of vol. 7, 13, and 27 for an example). I don't know if that is worth mentioning in the article. I find it really urks me when some fans and cosplayers believe Juvia's hair colour is dark blue and they get mad when people say it's light blue.

Thanks! --Areodus (talk) 04:47, January 26, 2014 (UTC)

We consider the manga the primary source and main canon when it comes to Fairy Tail, therefore we go by its colorings. If the differences between anime and manga are considered large enough though, we list both of them in the character's infobox and note the media besides them (see Cana's eye color, for example). King of Uncool 10:25,1/26/2014 

I think I will leave it as "blue", since in some of the manga art her hair is a dark blue colour, and in others it is a sky blue. It's quite confusing, therefore "blue" covers every shade. Thanks again for your help! Areodus (talk) 03:34, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

Juvia's age and age of others

Special "413 days". A year has totally passed, so Juvia is 18, Gray is 19, Erza is 20. Isn't so?

Without accurate birth dates and the date of the event in particular, it is impossible to tell how old they currently are when only adding 413 days to their original age. As such, no changes can be made. King of Uncool 13:34,3/29/2014 

Boyfriend: Bora

Should I add Bora as her ex-boyfriend in the character template of her? Or at least, can I? I think it will be efficient if it will be added.-- 15:40, August 24, 2014 (UTC)

For future reference, we don't add romantic relationships in the character templates unless they're "finalized. I.e. Alzack and Bisca's case because the two are married. Juvia and Bora weren't married, so he should not be added. King of Uncool 15:44,8/24/2014 

O.k. Got it.-- 19:26, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

Reference to Revelation of name

Isn't the first time Juvia's full name revealed in Chapter 201, page 16? As it's nowhere to be seen in her guild card as it's entirely empty.-- 19:57, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

Silver in relationships

Shouldn't we add Silver to her Relationship section as well add more on the Gray part, about how he was very grateful in freeing Silver? 16:57, January 28, 2015 (UTC)

Appearance section is outdated <_<

The appearance section is outdated. It's like that's from 2012 or something. Please make it up to date. Thanks! --I play pokemon so hi. (talk) 01:09, March 3, 2015 (UTC)

The wiki is free to edit-- God · Pray · 01:17,3/3/2015 
This page(NOT the talk page) is locked. :P --I play pokemon so hi. (talk) 23:42, March 3, 2015 (UTC)
Only to unregistered users-- God · Pray · 03:52,3/4/2015 

I don't see what the issue is. Except for at the very beginning of the Grand Magic Games arc, Juvia has been wearing the same clothes, which I'm pretty sure, funnily enough, has been since 2012. Just because she moves her leg and her leg pokes out of the very visible slit in her coat does not mean we are going to totally revamp her appearance section for a little skin. Thanks bye.
WrathRogue ChibiZero 03:58, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

So do we update the profile again since she showed up in the manga again or wait? I would edit it myself but I don't wanna mess it up. -- 23:35, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

Not until we see her full body.
WrathRogue ChibiZero 00:07, March 12, 2015 (UTC)

We did see her full body but her face was shadowed. Not sure if that counts...--Desuyo~ (talk) 21:33, March 16, 2015 (UTC)

It'll be updated in due time.
WrathRogue ChibiZero 21:36, March 16, 2015 (UTC)

Changing Magic has no page

Juvia's Changing magic has no page yet. Its best to create the page about it. -- 19:00, August 17, 2015 (UTC)

Changing Magic ? Miskos3 Message 19:01, August 17, 2015 (UTC)

Lack of Third-Person language for Both Frosch & Juvia

Though that happened to Frosch in the English dub, is it okay for me to point out that "Juvia never speaks Third-person in the Funimation Dub" in the Trivia? Brina (Her Funimation voice) didn't make her speak in third-person. NessNessSMMTalk 21:43, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

It is nearly impossible for dubbers to follow a character's original pattern of speech and while trying to keep up with the mouth flaps in the first place... so I don't know if it's really trivia worthy... ChaosKnight 22:32, October 15, 2015 (UTC)

Status post Ch 499

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion is:
Juvia's status will be changed to Deceased for now
Please do not edit this discussion.

Juvia's Status As of August 29th 2016, Juvia has passed in her forced battle with Invel so I believe we should change her status to deceased unless she magically becomes alive later on 10:41, August 29, 2016 (UTC)Anonymous

I wonder. On one hand her body is dead, but on the other hand she specifically said that a part of her will live on in Gray and I don't think she meant it metaphorically.

I'm really undecided on the matter. NoNickNeeded (talk) 10:45, August 29, 2016 (UTC)

just ask an admin or someone to change her status, she's dead Ncduru 10:47, August 29, 2016 (UTC)

No changes will be made until further confirmation. Miskos3 Message 10:56, August 29, 2016 (UTC)

that's false miskos3, invel said ice lock will only be broken when one or theother dies. why can't you change her status as deceased? if she turns out to be alive then change it back. we can't pick and choose what is confirmed IF IT IS Confirmed, i didn't know you were mashima -- 11:17, August 29, 2016 (UTC)

Then why did it break before... Miskos3 Message 12:35, August 29, 2016 (UTC)

Also keep in mind that that very same Magic was supposed to restrict their thoughts and force them to only kill each other.....but that didn't happen, as they killed themselves, questioning the efficiency and power of this
DispellingSiegrain ChibiMage14:37,8/29/2016

It depends on how literal the rules he imposes with his magic are. If they are absolutely literal (like the rules for Freed's Jutsu Shiki for example), then they didn't break those rules. He said they had to fight until one was dead and that's what they did. He never mentioned or thought of his magic preventing them from hurting themselves.
Furthermore Invel seemed only surprised about them deciding to commit suicide, rather than them overcoming his magic, so I think it was just a case of Invel not anticipating this case and thus unknowingly leaving a tiny loop-hole open. NoNickNeeded (talk) 14:48, August 29, 2016 (UTC)

I'm of the firm belief we should present what the current manga has presented us. Juvia was presented to have died in this chapter, so until stated otherwise within later chapters, Juvia should be marked as deceased.
WrathRogue ChibiZero 15:00, August 29, 2016 (UTC)

you might want to mark her as unknown until further notice.--Etweens96 (talk) 15:04, August 29, 2016 (UTC)

idk why it's so hard to mark as deceased... I get it's FT but Invel literally stated that Ice Lock can only be broken if one of the people that got locked dies. Juvia died. Ice Lock was broken. Her Blood transfusion occurred after she died. Doesn't matter if it was flukey or doesn't make complete sense at the time but it's what happened. If we all believe she'll be back then why not mark her as deceased now, then whenever she comes back if she does she'll be active? I don't get it. We can't say she's active when she clearly died this chapter cause Ice Lock was broken with her dead body and everything is shown, unlike Gajeel's. It should be deceased until proven otherwise Ncduru 15:06, August 29, 2016 (UTC)

After reading this all I tend to agree with NC, Warth & Co. Her body is most certainly dead. And even the bits that may or may not be alive in Gray are pretty much the same as the water that Ur was turned into and she is listed as deceased, so the same should go for Juvia too. If it turns out to be wrong after all, we can always revert it once it's confirmed.
Unless of course the matter is that you don't trust MS's translation and want to wait until someone checked the raws or wait for Crunchy. NoNickNeeded (talk) 15:15, August 29, 2016 (UTC)

She. Is. DEAD. The chapter showed us that she is, without a doubt, dead. It is extremely LAZY to not bother changing her status just because you know she will come back later, and then you don't have to change anything. She. Is. DEAD. I will repeat it many times more if I have to. There's no evidence even needed for this. She is dead, clear as day. ( 15:28, August 29, 2016 (UTC))

Calm your tits anon. We understood you the first damn time. I'm in agreement with changing her status. Even though its painfully obvious that Juvia is going to come back - at the moment, in the manga she is technically considered deceased. And while it is basically a pointless hassle to change her status all over the wiki for at most a few weeks, for the sake of accuracy, we have to. >_> Iam...    JakuhōRaikōben15:37,8/29/2016

So... ummmm... what do we do here? I'm of the opinion that Juvia hasn't even been confirmed dead. She just lost some blood. Gray might as well freeze her and then have whomever heal her. Or we could simply misuse the 'speculation' excuse and wait until whenever Juvia is revived through the Eclipse Gate/as an Etherious/whatever asspull Mashima has planned. But, honestly, the change is so unobtrusive and easy to revert that I don't care either way... --Sane Lunatic (talk) 17:34, August 29, 2016 (UTC)

She did not just lose SOME blood! She killed herself. She gave almost all her blood to Gray! This is Fairy Tail, but no matter what kind of story it is, nobody survives that! While I do believe she will come back sooner or later, she is dead NOW. That's what matters, NOW. It doesn't matter what people think will happen in future chapters, but we have to show what happened today, not last week, or next week. ( 17:54, August 29, 2016 (UTC))

I think everyone got their points across.. we should just vote on this if it won't be settled by a straight discussion Ncduru 02:03, August 30, 2016 (UTC)

  1. Support Support - whenever she comes back it'll be changed back, it is what it is. we should go with what the manga says, it's just not a big deal to edit/revert stuff to me Ncduru 02:03, August 30, 2016 (UTC)
  2. Support Support - I support what I said above. However, I'm extremely annoyed that people jumped the gun on this when under normal circumstances, nobody gives half a fuck about actually adding actual content to the pages themselves. Misk was correct to be peeved.
    WrathRogue ChibiZero 02:06, August 30, 2016 (UTC)
  3. Support Support - Sorry for coming late, just saw this. But yeah, I agree that she's dead. It was shown clearly in the chapter. And we can just change it back when she is somehow magically resurrected. (Singsweet23 (talk) 02:10, August 30, 2016 (UTC))
  4. Support Support - NoNickNeeded (talk) 07:19, August 30, 2016 (UTC)
  5. Support Support - This is such a shithole. Going neutral over this would have no impact, so, since everyone wants this resolved ASAP, I'd say just leave her deceased for now. Can always be changed if we're proven otherwise in the future chapters even though that'll be the case, but still DispellingSiegrain ChibiMage10:50,8/30/2016
  6. Support Support - I also believe that Juvia should be marked as deceased for the time being or until further notice. It's kind of like the same situation with Ur, despite her saying that she'll forever live on as ice, she is still marked as deceased on her bio. And if were wrong we can always change it.AvatarDragonSlayer007 (talk) 10:26, August 31, 2016 (UTC)
  1. Support Support - Miskos3 Message 02:12, August 30, 2016 (UTC)
  2. Support Support - Honestly, I'm just doing this to spite the anon for their arrogant conduct. I'd have supported Deceased otherwise. Derax PaganiDerax Signature Image 14:20, August 30, 2016 (UTC)
  3. Support Support - And then we're told she melted into a puddle when she realized Gray was holding her. Eh, just think labelling her as deceased is too hasty. Waiting never cost much... although, in this case, neither approach costs much. e_e #DexBestReasoner --Sane Lunatic (talk) 09:44, August 31, 2016 (UTC)
  4. Support Support - I've been convinced by Dexy's flawless logic and argumentation. Onfire.gif Wonder Talk 15:25,8/31/2016

Status post ch 500

So, which of you will now rush to oh so promptly change her status back? Because I called it........ Miskos3 Message 13:06, September 5, 2016 (UTC)

Ummm.....I did? ^o^" DispellingSiegrain ChibiMage13:07,9/5/2016

Yah, just pointing out me being right \o\ Miskos3 Message 13:25, September 5, 2016 (UTC)

Ah, 'kay then XD DispellingSiegrain ChibiMage13:37,9/5/2016

Juvia's endurance

Should we count Juvia surviving the massive amount of bloodloss in chapter 499 as an endurance feat? Because I think we should.--Wildestmike (talk) 04:00, August 5, 2018 (UTC)

I would like to add what was discussed in the Discussions Forum found here.

I was thinking about chapter 499 and how Juvia survived enough blood loss to kill Gray. Does that count as an endurance feat? Why or why not? And if it is, should someone add it to her page? Wildestmike (talk)

It doesnt count as an endurance feat since it only happened once, throughout the series juvia has been known to not receive and endure every damage against her since by default she relies on her water body to not be hurt.

It's more like juvia survived the blood loss because she's lucky or because shes the love interest of gray especially when gray's fight against invel didn't even last that long and juvia just pass out after giving blood to gray and eventually recovered after being healed by wendy so her passing out doesn't even show that she endured it all on her own.

Characters considered to have great endurances are those characters that has been shown to endure multiple situations throughout the fairy tail series. An example of characters that have been proven to able to endure a lot of things and not just because of blood loss are Jellal, Erza, Laxus, Mirajane and many more. LightningGeist (talk)

But it still happened. Juvia lost enough blood to kill Gray. And she survived. That sounds like an endurance feat to me. True Wendy did heal her, but Juvia still survived long enough for Wendy to find her. Carla also said if they found her a couple minutes later her life would be in danger. Wildestmike (talk)

It did happen but like i said it happened once so its speculation to say that it is because of of her endurance and not because of any other reasons such as luck, even the official raws never mentioned that she endured it all on her own, carla said if they found her a little later her life would be in danger meaning she wasn't even enduring it that greatly and was just lucky that they were able to arrive & heal her.

Endurance is mainly associated with the ability to remain active for a long period of time, as well as its ability to resist, withstand, recover from, and have immunity to trauma, wounds, or fatigue but as you've seen it's the opposite on what happened to her since she wasn't able to endure the effects of her blood loss since she literally passed out right after and was eventually healed by wendy, the opposite of being active despite the wounds and fatigue.

Even in real life, endurance tests are used to measure how the body was able to actively do physical challenges for an extended period of time, something that did not happen to juvia since her body shut down to the point that gray believed she actually died since he's begging for her to open her eyes which she cant even do unless she is unconscious and not actually enduring it all on her own. LightningGeist (talk)

It doesn't matter if it happened once it still happened. And your not getting it, she survived something that killed Gray. How is that not an endurance feat? Seriously Gray died from his blood loss and Juvia lost even more, so it's definitely an endurance feat. And what do you mean she never endured it all on her own? She most certainly did. Wildestmike (talk)

It's not an endurance feat. Endurance is based on pushing oneself like resisting, withstand, tolerate, etc. a very difficult situation brought on to them. She couldn't even do the basics such as speak, twitch, or open her eyes when Gray wanted her to do so that he actually thought she died. And the fact Carla said she wouldn't had made it in just a few moments later shows how she wasn't enduring the blood loss very well. Juvia even thought she died. Like LightningGeist said, it was just luck that she actually survived the blood loss until the time had came for her to actually die. Starpower98 (talk)

Juvia still survived a very very difficult situation while unconscious. Juvia lost more blood than Gray, and Gray died from his blood loss. And saying it was luck is a cop out. If we going to allow all the plot armored crap Erza does, then this counts. Also you don't get lucky from blood loss. Juvia withstood dying while unconscious. Wildestmike (talk)

Regardless of how we may feel about Erza's plot armor, it did made her display a lot of endurance feats because she actually resisted and tolerated the amount of serious wounds, exhaustion, and fatigue that she has received and was able push herself to come through the serious challenges she done went up against. Something that Juvia never shown in her situation. She wasn't active to push herself with her blood loss for anything at all. If she actually made it without the need of Carla and Wendy while facing a serious challenge during and/or after then it would be impressive. But that's not how that went as Carla stated. She just passed out to soon die in just a few moments. Her survival was based on luck solely from Carla's premonition that saw her demise at an earlier time to show up before it was too late, and Wendy's healing. Juvia knows this and looked confused of the fact that she was even alive, and even praised them for helping her. Shows more that she wasn't resisting and withstanding the effects of what's coming to her. That's not her trying to push herself to survive, that's her dying until some miracle comes along. It's the exact same as a real world situation where people don't be having much time to live and only had few moments prior to be alive until then. Only exceptional difference is there not being a magic healer to stop it. True tea from Mashima is that she actually was suppose to die. But changed his mind soon afterwards just for Gray's feelings. So instead had involved Wendy and Carla to stop it which again, has nothing to do with her endurance. Starpower98 (talk)

I'm just saying it's an endurance feat because she didn't die immediately like Gray did. Wildestmike (talk)

Hopefully everyone would chime in and share their thoughts objectively and not be subjective about it or in other words not being a fanboy for the sake of avoiding speculations. LightningGeistLaxus Chibi 04:22, August 5, 2018 (UTC)

I also want to add that did not juvia survived it all on her own, if she wasn't healed by wendy then she would die as mentioned by wendy and carla, so how can she take credit for enduring it when she literally passed out to the point that she herself and gray believed she died & she severely needed an outside help just to survive especially when everything is based on carla's precognition making her surviving it is based on luck that wendy and carla made it to her on time.

I believe it's not a feat because she never achieved it on her own without being saved by wendy especially if you base it with the rest of the fairy tail characters throughout the series who literally endured various situations all on their own without being healed by wendy. LightningGeistLaxus Chibi 04:42, August 5, 2018 (UTC)

Carla did say if they found Juvia minutes later her life would really be in danger. Which means she would have endured it longer. The feat is that she survived long enough for Wendy and Carla to find her and heal her. Remember Gray technically died from his blood loss and Juvia loss more blood than him and did't die immediately. Plus no else in the guild can compare to this feat.--Wildestmike (talk) 05:37, August 5, 2018 (UTC)

Even if we don't agree on the blood loss feat I think we can agree on including enhanced strength, enhanced speed, enhanced durability, and enhanced endurance to her page. --Wildestmike (talk) 06:52, August 5, 2018 (UTC)

It doesn't count for endurance because endurance is your ability to continue fighting. It might've counted for durability had she survived without being healed (and had Carla not mentioned that she'd have been in trouble had she been found any later), but she didn't. As far as enhanced strength, speed, durability, and endurance, Juvia certainly has all of those. However, before they can be added to the page, you must provide examples of her displaying those feats that can be referenced. And also, they should be provided here on the talk page first. After they are checked, they can then be added to the page. That way, it makes the process go smoother. ^__^ Iam...    JakuhōRaikōben07:25,8/6/2018

It's getting pretty annoying how I'm having to repeat myself. I'm saying since than endurance is withstanding hardship, Juvia not dying immediately like Gray did is a feat. She survived for a bit before being healed. I'm just really confused how some people don't get that. And some examples of her enhanced abilities are punching Meredy through rock, taking hits from Gray in a fight to the death, and keeping up with him in that fight. --Wildestmike (talk) 07:48, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

I could honestly not give two flying fucks if you're annoyed. ^___^ With that being said, that is not how we use endurance on this site. That falls more in line with our definition of durability. And this doesn't count as durability because she didn't withstand anything - it was about to kill her. And she pushed Meredy through rock with Magic if I'm not mistaken. And as far as her fight with Gray, they shared a few reluctant blows in close combat before sacrificing themselves. Not exactly much to go on. Iam...    JakuhōRaikōben08:02,8/6/2018

15:35, August 6, 2018 (UTC) You know you don't have to be a dick about it. It shouldn't matter if it was about to kill her she still lasted a lot longer than Gray did. Gray died from his blood loss and Juvia lost even more and managed to not die immediately like Gray did. How is that not a feat? Juvia punched Meredy through rock. And how is Gray and Juvia fight to the death not much to go on? You asked for examples I gave them to you. She was strong enough to Moderately hurt Gray, keep up with him, and take hits from him in a fight where they are not holding back. --Wildestmike (talk)

Here's the thing. No matter what anyone says, you will never change your mind. Jakuwhore here is also very stubborn and never changes his mind. So, no answer will please you and no answer will please Jakuwhore. Therefore we are at a dead end and since Jakuwhore is unfortunately an admin, nothing is changing. Discussion over, nothing changes. Lets all go back to our days now.-- God · Pray · 15:57,8/6/2018 

So I guess facts don't matter anymore, great. --Wildestmike (talk) 19:29, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

Not to pull a "I know you are, but what am I!" but although I may be a dick, you started it. If you don't want people to be offended and snap back at you, perhaps don't reply to them simply adding their input to the discussion with telling them how annoyed you are? Food for thought. >_> And as far as the blood thing, me being an admin is neither here nor there in this case. You are of course free to argue it until you are blue in the face, but no one seems to agree with your point. As far as the other stuff you mentioned, if Juvia punched Meredy through rock without Magic, simply provide me the chapter and the page and I'll confirm it. Also, Gray and Juvia didn't "fight to the death" - they exchanged a few blows (with limited mobility and range due to their chained predicament) before attempting suicide. Hardly enough to really derive any feats from there. Iam...    JakuhōRaikōben05:12,8/7/2018

Dude, all I said was that it was annoying that I had to repeat myself. That's really no cause for someone to snap back. Oh yeah all of two people disagrees with me on the blood loss feat. Other people I've asked agree with me about the blood loss feat, because they used logic like me. To survive something like that, even if it was for a couple minutes, is impressive. the seven people who up voted my discussion also agree with me. I did look back at Juvia punching Meredy through the rock and it looks like she used magic to enhance the punch. (Chapter 229 page 19). But that's still a strength feat right. Because doesn't everyone use their magic to enhance their attacks. And Gray and Juvia were forced to fight to the death because Invel told them to, so they weren't holding back. So taking shots a from a full powered Gray with inent to kill is pretty impressive. Also hurting him too. That should be enough to get some feats from. Also I recommend checking out this page: --Wildestmike (talk) 05:48, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

Those upvotes are open to multiple interpretation on what they are upvoting for, they could agree with you or they only did so because they are a fan of juvia so everything related to her gets an automatic upvote, also only discussions made in this page will be taken into consideration since this is where such discussions are needed to be made if it is related to juvia's page. So unless they go here and write why they believe its an objective feat and not just saying yes and that's it or they agree because they are a fan of juvia then that would be great.

As for the vs wiki they have their own way of labeling a character's abilities and at the same time this wiki has one too which is by using what was presented by the official sources and interpreting it objectively to make it consistent throughout the wiki. If you still insist on giving juvia multiple feats and abilities that does not fit this wiki's format and policies then why not just focus on juvia's vs wiki page since i'm sure such contributions will fit its format in the first place. Also everything that needs to be added in the wiki needs to be referenced thats why IamJakuhoRaikoben asked for the pages so it can be referenced and not just be added out of nowhere which i'm sure the VS wiki doesnt do since its information were never referenced from any official sources and just end up being added by anyone without being checked for accuracy. LightningGeistLaxus Chibi 06:44, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

If you want to cite vsbattles wiki as a source, you've lost your argument. That site is just a bunch of crazed fans making shit up-- God · Pray · 14:23,8/7/2018 

Funfact: The vs wiki lists "Blood manipulation" as one of Juvia's abilities. So her not bleeding to death (according to stuff from that place anyway) would have nothing to do with either her durability or endurence, and is instead a sign of her skill in basically blood bending.

You're welcome. NoNickNeeded (talk) 15:48, August 7, 2018 (UTC)

--Wildestmike (talk) 16:50, August 7, 2018 (UTC) The feats they list have links to the pages where it happened. They refrence things. That page is also watched by an admin too. And those people who up voted my discussion did agree with me. If they didn't they wouldn't have.And her blood mainpulation is limited. Look the whole point I'm trying to make is that surviving enough blood loss to kill someone even if it was for a couple minutes is really impressive. I've used logic in my argument yet people just choose to ignore that. And I've explained how Gray and Juvia's fight to death give her feats.

We've presented you tons of reasons why her survival is not a feat of durability. We could keep arguing in circles for days, weeks, maybe even months, but lets face the facts here, no matter what we say, you will never change your mind. Hiro Mashima himself could say she doesnt have enhanced durability and you would argue with him. Let's end this here. 4 people from this community have come to this discussion and said no, only one person, yourself, has said they believe she does have enhanced durability. 3 > 1. So discussion over.-- God · Pray · 17:01,8/7/2018 

--Wildestmike (talk) 17:10, August 7, 2018 (UTC) Are you kidding me? She took shots from a Gray not holding back with intent to kill, how the hell is that not enhanced durability?

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