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I'm wondering if Ivan could use thought projection magic. It might be some kind of illusion magic but it seems exactly like thought projection. In Chapter 287, Makarov also stated that it's some kind of thought projection.
13:56, December 25, 2012 (UTC)
But in the mangastream translation, it was stated "thought projection" by Makarov. In the official Chinese Tankoubon Vol. 34 that I just bought, it was also translated as "thought projection". The 4 disappeared together only after Ivan was defeated. So...? 01:18, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
OK. I updated the page, but I don't know whether my edit is accurate. Please check it for me. Thanks a lot.05:34, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
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Anyway, do we classify it as a Darkness Magic spell or an Illusion Magic spell? Personally, I was thinking of calling it Dark Blast and putting it under Darkness Magic. Thoughts?18:55, February 9, 2013 (UTC)
Oppose - It's not Darkness Magic, it's just an illusion created by Ivan, so people could see "Alexei's" magic. And I also think Laxus' Lightning Punch shouldn't be added to his page, cause it was all an Illusion created and manipulated by Ivan. 16:37,2/10/2013
Oppose - That's merely an illusion. It was casted by an illusion and employed against an illusion. Besides, why would you classify it as Darkness Magic? It was given a color indicating a possible "dark" source only in the anime. Even if it was created, who would you mark as its user? Ivan was employing his illusions and had them use it; adding it to his page would be like adding Master Hand to Hand Combatant because his illusion overwhelmed Laxus'. Midnight wasn't noted as a Darkness Magic user because his illusion used it (or what looked like it). The same ought to be done here.
--16:54, February 10, 2013 (UTC)
- Exactly! :D 16:59,2/10/2013
Then how about it being added as sub-type of Illusion Magic?
- "Darkness Magic — Dark Blast"
"In his illusionary fight against Laxus, Ivan has shown an ability to... etc etc. Whether Ivan is actually capable of performing such a magic/spell is currently unknown."
Can it not be added like that to Ivan's page? The spell page itself would be just: "A user puts their hands together to concentrate dark Magic which is then shot at the target, damaging them."
No need to mention illusion. It's just a spell. Y/N?17:25, February 10, 2013 (UTC)
- I think it's not necessary. It could be added to the "Description" section: "This ability also gives the user the right of creating illusionary spells." Or something like this. Sorry for bad grammar. :P 16:43,2/11/2013
agreed with reli
I think I'd actually go with Miskos3's solution. Creating article about spell, and linking to it in description of Ivan's illusion. However it would not be considered as a spell that Ivan is capable of using. Sligneris (talk) 16:07, February 12, 2013 (UTC)
- By there is nothing to discuss, I mean there is nothing to discuss. The spell doesn't exist. no page can be created for it because no darkness magic spell was never used, the only Magic used at the time was illusion Magic. 20:28, February 12, 2013 (UTC)
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I can't help but to feel that his current profile picture is somehow... unfit. I don't actually have any proposals right now, but I think we should look around episodes in Grand Magic Games arc and find a better fitting picture... Sligneris (talk) 23:21, February 17, 2013 (UTC)