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Question...[]

Iced Shell is an static ice make but it should be categorized as "forbidden" because of its side effects.. i think

It's only forbidden if the manga says so. Drunk Samurai 06:46, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Name of Article[]

Can it really be called ice magic? because in Japanese the kanji for Gray and Leons magic is called Hyojin which means Ice form or formation, as opposed to Hyo-mahou(Ice Magic) so wouldnt make more sense to call it Ice Alchemy? Umibouzu 23:33, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I would agree with you on that. Dalyup! 09:48, 28 May 2009 (UTC)


Hell no. This is not FMA. It's magic. Not alchemy. Drunk Samurai 10:33, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't really matter anyway. But just because one manga uses a name doesn't mean another one can't use the same name. Dalyup! 12:33, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

well they create and mold ice so i think its ok to leave it as Ice magic. User:Gray_CS 14:35, 29 May 2009

Yes it does. Magic is not alchemy. Drunk Samurai 17:50, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Im not saying that it needs to be Alchemy , but it isnt ice magic(more like it isnt called ice magic), it clearly says its not, but the point is to change the Article to a more suitable name. maybe just ICE MAKE? -Umi (didnt feeel like signing in)

I plan on changing this article to Ice Make until there is any further credible evidence that it should be Ice Magic( as discussed many times before on this wiki, English manga isnt a credible source) -Umi

One hand, two hands, there's a difference between the two when using this magic. I think someone should state that.

Hands[]

One hand, two hands, there's a difference between the two when using this magic. I think someone should state that.

Agreed. It's a definite thing that defines two different styles of the magic. Two hands is slower but has more control, while one hand has faster spells with less control and more danger, etc... Will 12:57, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Spell[]

Does anyone have any idea what this object/weapon is? Relikz Relikz Talk (Talk Page) 23:46, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

It's a pufferfish Sig imageGuilhermeアベ Talk 23:53, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

lol. I think you are right. But because of the color I thought it was static. But if nothing better comes up we'll go with that. Relikz Relikz Talk (Talk Page) 23:56, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Looks like a mace, but I figure out that it is a pufferfish due the fins and the mouth that it has. Herme00:12,12/2/2011

Likely just a mistake by the anime team with the coloring since Lyon has never shown the ability to use Static Ice Make so my votes for Pufferfish.....maybe.  Iam...JakuhōRaikōben  01:46,12/2/2011 

Yeah he has. He created a shield (that looked different) and a sword. Relikz Relikz Talk (Talk Page) 03:32, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Really? Never knew. Hmm.... well then I retract my vote. I don't want to label it a pufferfish just to figure out that it's a deformed flail or some kind of odd weapon that only DaRinor would recognize.  Iam...JakuhōRaikōben  03:35,12/2/2011 

Then let's asked the man that has all the answers to all the random question. Relikz Relikz Talk (Talk Page) 03:38, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Good idea.  Iam...JakuhōRaikōben  03:40,12/2/2011 

Now that I see it again/ I think it looks more like a turtle's shell. Maybe it's dynamic. Relikz Relikz Talk (Talk Page) 03:47, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

It does somewhat look like an upside down turtle shell....though it also looks like a pupperfish....not too sure on this one....  Iam...JakuhōRaikōben  03:49,12/2/2011 

Never mind, you were referring to the shield.  Iam...JakuhōRaikōben  03:51,12/2/2011 

Double edit conflict. Also, it's listed that his Ice-Make: Diamond Cage is static. But since it's spell that "grows" I think it should be considered dynamic. Relikz Relikz Talk (Talk Page) 03:51, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good to me.  Iam...JakuhōRaikōben  03:54,12/2/2011 

Done Done. What about the shield? Should it be considered a different spell from Ice-Make: Shield? Sleep Relikz Relikz Talk (Talk Page) 03:58, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm... I think it's fine to leave for now since we have not proof it's animate.  Iam...JakuhōRaikōben  04:01,12/2/2011 


Hedgehog[]

hey im wondering if its a dynamic ice-make if it was shown being used with both hands Aries PNGAnimaltamer7Aries

It doesn't matter if you use both hands or not it doesn't determine if the spell is static or dynamic. Static Ice-Make are inanimate objects while Dynamic can move. Although I don't know whether the spell is dynamic or not. Remnant13 Talk 13:57,4/3/2012 13:57, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

adding unnamed female mage[]

we must add the unnamed female mage from the last episode in the users ?? --Nitram86 20:36, April 7, 2012 (UTC) i add her because her spell are in the page if i make wrong change --Nitram86 21:19, April 7, 2012 (UTC)


Dynamic or Static?[]

Are we really sure that following are dynamic?:

Since that SDynamic Ice-make is supposed to be moving but these are not moving so shuld we put them as static instead? Aries PNGAnimaltamer7Aries

Diamond Cage is definitely dynamic as it grows by itself. The other two I'm not sure, but maybe Mashima drew them as dynamics and the animators just didn't animate it correctly RelikzTalk PageTalk 21:02, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

Kite[]

Is Kite really static? htm14 (Talk) 15:00, May 19, 2012 (UTC)

Yes.

  BHappy ChibiJ   22:52,5/19/2012

Freeze[]

Shouldn't Freeze be a simple Ice Magic spell? How can it be an Ice-Make spell if it didn't create anything but only freezes things? --95.246.162.23 20:19, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

I agree with you actually :) However, I'm really naive about the way Magic pages are handled on this Wiki because I don't make them or try to understand them that much, so we'll see what some others think. ☆°・*CarrotSays...*・°☆ 01:36, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

I LOVE MY CARROT!
MegaPanchamTalk 01:46, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your amazing contribution here Mega ( -__-)~ Anyways, I'm off to watch Black Bullet and Soul Eater Not.
☆°・*CarrotSays...*・°☆ 01:53, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Last episode of SEN! I watched was 4. I should go catch up on that before it ends. >__> As for Freeze, yeah, I think it's just something every Mage with Ice Magic can do~
MegaPanchamTalk 02:29, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Anime-only Spell[]

Gray's nameless Ice-Make attack

Proposed spell

Support Support - Page creation~The Wallflower~Wendynan10:52,7/18/2014 10:52, July 18, 2014 (UTC)

I'm ok with it coz he really did create multiple crescent blades, but others might say that he just made Ice-Make: Arrows while using wide crescent shaped arrows. LightningGeistRead about Laxus? 13:36, July 18, 2014 (UTC)

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