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Grammi and Zoldeo's affiliation

Meant to bring this up but why isn't Grammi and Zoldeo considered apart of Konzern but Spetto is? Besides the obvious that Spetto was shown working there? Cause personally it's hella dumb that they wouldn't be considered even though they're all Layla's servants and there's nothing of disparity between them and Spetto, plus they all got keys from Layla too.. idk just wanted to know cause it just seems obvious to me they were apart of it even though hiro didn't mention it NcduruRavens wallpaper (2) 15:43, January 17, 2016 (UTC)

Heartfilia Konzern was formed after Layla had given up her keys. There is no evidence that Zoldeo and Grammi ever joined it after they left Layla's service earlier. On the other hand, if you do have a reference, please change their affiliation and reference it appropriately. --Sane Lunatic (talk) 15:51, January 17, 2016 (UTC)

Not sure though but it could have been one if I look back in the chapters.. but honestly I wanted to just propose a vote cause on this to get it out of the way cause it's sorta like how Wendy and Carla weren't officially apart of Team Natsu but was literally in every frame and second with them... just something like this to me is so obvious that I don't think hiro would bother giving a fuck mentioning it cause it goes hand-in-hand, wouldn't make sense to me that Spetto, Zoldeo, and Grammi were all Layla's servants but Spetto was the only one that was apart of the Konzern NcduruRavens wallpaper (2) 00:03, January 18, 2016 (UTC)

I'm very confused as to why you'd put up a voting... It's either yes or no. <.< As you can see, every member down in the section has a reference so if you can get a reference for this, you can put it up, otherwise, nope.jpg Miskos3 Message 00:16, January 18, 2016 (UTC)

true, I'll just look for it then if it's in a chapter NcduruRavens wallpaper (2) 00:48, January 18, 2016 (UTC)
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