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Not all are wars[]
I dont think every major battle that happens is considered a guild war. the Zeref conflict isnt a guild war, cause as far as we know Zeref wasnt in a guild. and i dont think its been stated that the Oracion Seis vs the Delegates(where do people get the idea its Light Alliance?) is a guild war, the delegation wants to take down the Balam Alliance, the Oracion Seis is just taking down the people getting in there way of getting Nirvana -Umi
- They said there was a war with Zeref before, but as for the Light Alliance vs The Balam Alliance, that is multiple guilds battling each other, which in turn equals Guild War.
its never stated that that those opposing Zeref were a guild, or that Zeref isnt in a guild. and every major conflict shouldnt be considered a guild war, if you assume that, it means that Fairy Tail vs Eisenwald is a guild war. or the when they fought Leon's group cause they were in Lamia Scale -Umi
I agree with thisRauleli 12:55, March 27, 2011 (UTC)
Zeref "war"[]
Where is it ever mentioned that it was a war? Dalyup! 20:29, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
No one said anything about a guild war who told you that
War (laws)[]
As of manga 263, it does mention that "offical guilds are prohibited from going after dark guilds." 72.200.56.246 04:45, December 19, 2011 (UTC)Rich
I'll add it to the page soon.
Iam...JakuhōRaikōben 
04:46,12/19/2011
Redesign[]
I think this page is in need of a redesign, much neater and hopefully smaller. Iam...JakuhōRaikōben 23:11,2/1/2012
I'll be willing to do it. Any designs in mind? 
23:15, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
I already got something in mind. 
Relikz Talk (Talk Page) 23:16, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
Oh. Then I guess you can do the redesigning... 23:19, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
(two edit conflicts later) You guys have at it. Iam...JakuhōRaikōben 23:20,2/1/2012
You should give it a shot too. Yours might come out looking way better than mine Relikz Talk (Talk Page) 23:21, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
Alrighty. But I won't be able to do it now, maybe later since I still have classes. And we can just compare our works. 23:23, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
Deal Relikz Talk (Talk Page) 23:26, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
Cool! While you guys do that, I'll soak in self pity about not being able to do anything to help our site for the next week or so.... Iam...JakuhōRaikōben 23:31,2/1/2012
Meanwhile, Rauleli uses his admin power for evil... Relikz Talk (Talk Page) 23:32, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
- And Jakuho waits patiently for his chance to de-admin and block him. Iam...JakuhōRaikōben 23:33,2/1/2012
Eisenwald[]
Wasn't the war of Team Natsu vs. Eisenwald a guild war too?? Just wondering...
Zeref
Vermillion06:53,2/25/2012 06:53, February 25, 2012 (UTC)
Team Natsu is only a team, guild war is when two guilds go to war Relikz Talk (Talk Page) 18:53, February 25, 2012 (UTC)
>This is not the case. The page currently recognises the guild 'alliance' as a legitimate guild war, even though the alliance was made of representatives from certain guilds. It is perfectly fine therefore for a guild war to be conducted by representatives of a guild, instead of the entire guild itself. Phantom Lord Furthermore only conducted it's guild war using a single structure and it's S-Class mages, with the rest of the guild's branches in other cities being entirely irrelevant to the war. So yes, Team Natsu vs Eisenwald can be considered a guild war. The only reservation I have about calling it such is Team Natsu doesn't reflect Fairy Tail. Hence they are mages from fairy tail destroying a guild, but not necessarily representatives of Fairy Tail destroying a guild. Schimmal (talk) 11:19, March 8, 2016 (UTC)
Notable Participants[]
How exactly do we classify characters as a notable participant in a guild war?
For the first two guild wars, I think it's agreeable. The left side members defeated at least one of the right side members so yeah.
For the Allied Forces vs. Oracion Seis, Gray AND Lyon defeated Racer, so why isn't Lyon notable?
For Fairy Tail vs. Grimoire Heart, I know Lisanna is helplessly useless, but why isn't she listed there? She helped in defeating Rustyrose. If this isn't acceptable, then why is Happy notable in the AF vs. OS fight, yet all he did was fly Natsu to attack Cobra (._.)
I'm okay with FT vs. Tartarus for now since it isn't settled.
IDK if this is important, but the question is, how exactly do we classify a character as notable? M•A•M•E•R•G•ET•A•L•K♫♫♫13:23,5/25/2014
I guess Lisanna isn't listed under Tenrou since more notable characters were listed as opposed to her.
:Umnei:
13:25, May 25, 2014 (UTC)
Fairy Tail and Sabertooth vs Tartarus?[]
I know most of the participants were from Fairy Tail, but Sting and Rogue also had a major role in this war, so maybe it should be renamed Fairy Tail and Sabertooth vs Tartarus? :) 83.63.218.181 19:34, February 16, 2015 (UTC)
>Not really. Firstly, no member of Tartarus was defeated by any member of Sabertooth. While it is true that Sting and Rouge fought Maard, it was Natsu and gray that fought him and won. Sting and Rouge fought and beat Jiemma, who is not a member of Tartarus. Schimmal (talk) 11:02, March 8, 2016 (UTC)
Addition of conflicts[]
The heading summarizes most of what I want to say, but shouldn't we add those conflicts in Fairy Tail Zero such as the one where Blue Skull takes down Red Lizard, and the one in the main series where the unnamed guild wrecks Lamia Scale's party? (We could just summarize the events, because these situations pretty much constitute an invasion, attack or something related to it.) 42.60.144.10 15:42, March 18, 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, they should be added, and hopefully one of us remembers to do it. Thank you!
Wrath
Zero 15:44, March 18, 2015 (UTC)
Fairy Tail vs. Tartarus[]
Since Sabertooth got involved, how we should handle this? Should we add Sabertooth to the FT side or show them as mere supporting guys in separate column? Insivel (talk) 17:52, May 11, 2015 (UTC)
>The role of Sabertooth in the war was not to fight Tartarus. They were there to retrieve Minerva, and to do that they only defeated Jiemma. Jiemma does not represent Tartarus and thus they are not inherently relevant to the guild war that was proactively sought by Fairy Tail. Schimmal (talk) 11:05, March 8, 2016 (UTC)
Alvarez Empire[]
Might be a dumb question but would this be counted in with a guild war (FT vs Alvarez) or naw since it's against the entire empire? Ncduru
01:33,9/23/2015
If you wish for this, then you will need to come up with an inclusive definition of guild for this wiki as well. Currently, the definition does not permit the Alvarez Empire to be recognised as a guild, since it's major function is not to provide jobs etc as this wiki claims. Personally, I am against expanding the definition of guild to include the empire, as there is a rather obvious difference between what people think of when we say 'guild,' and what they think of when we say 'Empire.' Schimmal (talk) 11:08, March 8, 2016 (UTC)
Orochi's Fin vs Lamia Scale[]
can be considered? DisneySeggewys (talk) 17:21, December 23, 2015 (UTC)
Yes
Wrath
Zero 17:30, December 23, 2015 (UTC)
Tartarus vs Dark Guilds[]
Tartarus, in it's preparations for war, assimilates and annihilates various other dark guilds in the Baram alliance. Since this kind of aggression was recognised by Oracion Seis as clear violation of the non-aggression pact, there is a compelling case for claiming that these one sided 'fights' constitute guild wars. Even if they happen to be a rather minor part of the plot, it might be prudent to recognise them as such. Schimmal (talk) 11:13, March 8, 2016 (UTC)
Fairy Tail ReFounding Team vs Avatar?[]
So Fairy Tail fights and wipes out Avatar, however they technically don't exist as a guild at the time. The author clearly intends this battle to be the marker of the refounding of Fairy Tail, so do we include this conflict as one of Fairy Tail's wars or not? Schimmal (talk) 11:27, March 8, 2016 (UTC)
Avatar isn't a guild though Miskos3 Message 12:56, March 8, 2016 (UTC)
Avatar was no guild, the Fairy Tail members didn't belong to a guild at the time and the magic council is also not a guild, so yeah, no guild war. NoNickNeeded (talk) 13:11, March 8, 2016 (UTC)