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Junk Trivia
Too bad, i think it would add spice if gray likes lucy. - twirl&swirl "A running gag with Gray is that he always insults Mirajane's ideas without knowing, causing Mirajane feeling upset" - This isn't even a running gag, it only happened once. -WhiteArmor-(Talk)- 13:44, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
Exactly twice - first when Lucy called Team Natsu "the strongest", and second when Gray criticized Mira's picture.Ishthak 13:47, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
So should I put it back in? -WhiteArmor-(Talk)- 13:49, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
Um, when is it ever stated in the manga or anime that Gray has feelings for Lucy. Because I know it doesn't say that, all it says is that he thinks she is cute, saying that Gra has feelings for Lucy is pure speculation. So I am removing it.Ash9876
Natsu names as aliases?
Since Natsu calls Gray Droopy-Eyes among other things when they're insulting, would that count as an alias? ScarletwindStep into theLight
No lol , that can 't be alias , unless everyone calls him with that.
Stone Roger 14:22, July 24, 2011 (UTC)
his age 25
just because he did age physically dont mean age does not change loke is how old spirit i think you guys should list the year in his age for that year (74.141.196.236 07:02, October 23, 2011 (UTC))
Oppose - B
J 07:16, October 23, 2011 (UTC)
Oppose - They are not spirits and it would mess everything up 
Relikz Talk 11:31, October 23, 2011 (UTC)
its not speculation 7 years pass he was 18 add 7 more wam he 25 he did age physically but he biologically 18 but 25 also zeref does not look his age in he real old (74.141.196.236 11:58, October 23, 2011 (UTC))
- He didn't age physically and using Zeref as the reason to change their age would be speculation as he could have not age by other Magical means
Relikz Talk 12:06, October 23, 2011 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but this is not open for discussion. Fairy Sphere essentially trapped them in time and they did not age. The time passed, but they didn't pass with it. Iam...JakuhōRaikōben 12:41,10/23/2011
- Yay! Rai comes in to save the day! Relikz Talk 12:46, October 23, 2011 (UTC)
- All in a day's work. ^_^ Iam...JakuhōRaikōben 12:50,10/23/2011
Spelling mistakes
There are a few spelling mistakes in here, for example "Ur trains Gray"
It's driving me nuts cause I can't edit it. Closo 16:05, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
Where is the spelling mistake supposed to be in a sentence like "Ur trains Gray"? O_o
-- Aldarinor 
Talk Contribs 16:20, January 12, 2012 (UTC)
Ur can be seen as a spelling mistake. If you watch the anime in Japanese with the original voice actors, Gray's mentor is called Ul
Daphne arc
Isn't he in the Daphne arc. He was a major role in the arc and now its gone! Where did it go?Carrie 11:34, March 10, 2012 (UTC)
His synopsis on his role in that arc was never written in his page, but you are welcome to do it yourself if you'd like 
Relikz Talk (Talk Page) 14:20, March 10, 2012 (UTC)
Gray's point of view of Lucy with the help of Gemini
Gemini in the form of Gray, comments that Gray is "somewhat interested in her/Lucy" (in the anime)
it wasn't cited in Gray's relationship with Lucy :) I'd love to edit it but I don't know how and I just wanted to point it out in case anyone wants to change it :)
We go by the manga on this site. If it wasn't said in the manga but it was said in the anime, we don't add it.
Ultraprime2Let's talk
14:41, July 25, 2012 (UTC)
shouldn't that go to "personality"? --FirePit (talk) 19:39, July 25, 2012 (UTC)
Reroutes to wrong Japanese voice actor
Exactly as the subject says, it takes you to a different Yuichi Nakamura, instead of the voice actor's profile (You can obviously tell its a different person, as no anime roles are listed- including FT) 72.199.102.101 04:40, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
It's right there actually. Relikz
Talk 19:58, September 26, 2012 (UTC)
Gray Dead?!
In the end of chapter 334 grey seems to be killend. He was pierced with alot of shots and also was shot in the head and the narrator said something that life sacrifed.
So at least his status should be marked as unkown but I think, that one of a main character will leave us.
--95.117.85.26 13:24, June 7, 2013 (UTC)Mavis
Wait for the next chapter. Until he's shown dead or anything of the like, his status will remain active.
*:･ﾟ✧ ★ ★ ✪*:･ﾟ✧ ★ ★ (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧ 13:26, 6/7/2013
At least put the information about the latest chapter an I agree that his status she be unknown, because the most likely out come is that he is dead. User:CNBA3
- Updating pages are handled by the Fairy Tail Wiki:Lightning Update Tribe. Whoever claimed the job will get to it when they can--GodPray 23:13,6/8/2013
- Also, until Gray is officially announced as dead, his status won't be changed. Period. Jakuho Raikoben23:18,6/8/2013
Personality Section
Just thought I'd give input that in the 'Personality' section that the comment put in about Juvia towards the end of it where it says "he started developing feelings towards her, which he preferred keeping a secret" is not really proven or fact.
It has not been stated anywhere withing that referenced manga chapter (Chapter 376.5, Page 22) that that is true. It's merely speculation or someone is just reading into that mini chapter too much. Because, like I said, it has not clearly been stated to be true. 69.35.179.246 22:24, April 5, 2014 (UTC) Guest
There was this one scene where they were riding back to the guild after failing to protect the ex-councillor, where Gray is consoling and encouraging Juvia. While it might not be outright love, it's clear that he feels at least something for her, even if it's only a deep friendship, so I think we can leave it there. NoNickNeeded (talk) 22:29, April 5, 2014 (UTC)
Ice-Make Section
The Ice-Make page lists Ice-Make: Thieving Hand as Dynamic Ice-Make, but nothing is mentioned of Gray's use of Dynamic Ice-Make (no matter how minor)SasookayIsRlyCoo (talk) 14:10, June 10, 2014 (UTC)
Revelation of full name
When is Gray's full name is revealed? I want to reference it.--Shay.avigad.1 (talk) 20:12, August 26, 2014 (UTC)
He was introduced as Gray Fullbuster. Plus, we don't reference the blatant obvious.
:Umnei:
20:33, August 26, 2014 (UTC)
Eye Design in chapter 398
In the third panel of page 6 of chapter 398, Gray's eyes irises are drawn differently. There seems to be a pattern drawn into it.
Is that normal eye close up design, or is it a new thing?
Hakkyounotenshi (talk) 14:20, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
It's a new thing that has something to do with his newly aquired Ice Devil Slayer powers. And like his tattoo, it's not there all the time. NoNickNeeded (talk) 14:24, September 10, 2014 (UTC)
Ice Trail
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I think we should decide where Gray's Ice Trail synopsis will be written, since we've decided to include the Ice Trail series on the wiki.
- One choice is somewhere in the history section,
after Gray's parents are killed and before he meets Ur.after he parts with Ur before joining Fairy Tail - Another choice is in the other media section, since it's not Mashima's work and whether the storyline is canon or not can be questioned.
- A separate section, like how we did with Yuriy, as Carry suggested, but in this case this is a bit tricky, because the timeline this story happens is supposed to be between 2 parts of the history section; Deliora destroying his village, and him meeting Ur, and this goes in between.
- Add a note to Gray's page, saying that after his training and before joining Fairy Tail he took part in many adventures, and redirecting to the Ice Trail page.
- One choice is somewhere in the history section,
So what do you think?
Raven
(S)talk14:21,9/15/2014
I'm up for B for the exact reasons you mentioned. Miskos3 Message 14:31, September 15, 2014 (UTC)
Mangastream states that Zero and IT are written under his supervision, mp means the stories are decided by him with inputs from others, just that Zero is drawn by himself while IT is drawn by his assistant. MS considers both to be canon. This is, of course, just their opinion, but saying that this is not a work of Mashima might be jumping the gun. If he decides the complete storyline himself while just the artwork is left to his assistant, this would be canon, right? In case this is considered canon, maybe the history section can be limited to uptil Ur's fight with Deliora while everything else, including the childhood flashbacks, goes to Synopsis? Otherwise it'd make History too big, though I'd vote for history. Considering IT is all about Gray, maybe just create a link from History to Ice Trail saying, "Many events take place during Gray's journey after Ur's death and before he enters Fairy Tail. These are described in the Ice Trail manga." Or something like that? Just to keep the History section from getting to long. --Sane Lunatic (talk) 14:52, September 15, 2014 (UTC)
- So... is Ice Trail's story being written by Mashima a proven fact or not? Because if it is, then giving it a subsection in History section is the best option imo. Miskos3 Message 15:13, September 15, 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, if we have info about Mashima assisting in this work that would work. As for the other suggestions, the thing is, we cannot put the childhood flashbacks to the Synopsis section, because the synopsis only consists of the timeline beginning with the first chapter of the manga, and everything before that goes to History. (Also note that AioM is not only non-canon stuff, some of them are pretty canon) However, your idea for redirecting from Gray's page to the Ice Trail page for those events is pretty good, so I'll add it as an option.
Raven(S)talk15:17,9/15/2014
First of all, Ice Trail happens after Ur, not before. The story is in between Gray losing Ur (and Lyon) and Gray joining FT. Second, I remember we agreed that we would take the same steps for Ice Trail that we took for FT Zero. 
15:43, September 15, 2014 (UTC)
- How is that possible? It still happens between 2 different sections in the History paragraph.
Raven(S)talk15:44,9/15/2014- It happens after he parts ways with Lyon and before he arrives at FT. The info should just be placed after the paragraph that ends with Lyon leaving and before the paragraph that starts with him going to FT.-- God · Pray · 16:02, September 15, 2014 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but until we get full confirmation that Mashima decided the plot for this story, then I say leave it in AiOM. AiOM is not a place where we shove non-cannon material, it's just a place we put things that don't fall under any particular arc. IT could be considered Gray's history if Mashima was the one who wrote it, but again, that would need to be confirmed before we took that route. 夢Iam... 黒 JakuhōRaikōben死19:55,9/15/2014
Actually, the way we did it with FT0 works here too. We just do what we did with Mavis' synopsis - go look at the end of Tenrou Jade arc. So, we'd just stop Gray's history at "Ur in the process as she lived on as the ice encasing Deliora." and then start whatever the hell we're gunna call this arc in synopsis, ending it with the rest of the history flipped into present-tense. However, I too am still questioning the canon-ness of this entire story, and, as I give literally no fucks about Gray, I'm not too fussed about where this ends up tbh .-. ☆°・*CarrotSays...*・°☆ 13:20, September 16, 2014 (UTC)
- The problem here is that all the flashbacks would also have to go in Synopsis, I'll just call it 'Childhood Arc' for now. But then, for consistency's sake, everybody mentioned in those flashbacks, from Natsu to Makrov, will have to have that change made in their pages. Unlike Mavis' flashbacks, Gray's are intertwined with many other characters. For Mavis, uptil now, only Warrod and Precht are affected. For Gray ... it's quite a lot of other people. Comparing Zero and IT won't really work here, imo anyway. That's why I still think it should go into History and, to not make the History section too long and considering IT deals almost exclusively with Gray, should just be mentioned, providing a link to the IT page. Only my opinion though. ... And there should be a rule against hating a character at least on the poor character's own talk page. XD --Sane Lunatic (talk) 18:01, September 16, 2014 (UTC)
Though I don't remember where exactly, it has been confirmed that Ice Trail is being done under Mashima's supervision. And @Carrot, Ice Trail arc sounds good XD 14:20, September 16, 2014 (UTC)
- That's not good enough you dirty Mexican. We need a physical source that we can see and confirm. 夢Iam... 黒 JakuhōRaikōben死15:11,9/16/2014
- What exactly would be considered a good source? I'm guessing that just being published in the FT Monthly Magazine or scanlation sites like MS saying it's canon aren't enough, while I think Mashima said in his Twitter that IT was illustrated by his assistant, which might mean that Mashima is the author ... and it might not. ... Is there a Mashima Twitter stalker or something like that who can help here? --Sane Lunatic (talk) 18:01, September 16, 2014 (UTC)
Voting
Alright, so I think all opinions have been stated, so I suggest we vote so this discussion can be finally closed.... the options stated are:
- AioM unless there's confirmation that Mashima is involved
- Finish Gray's History with his training with Ur, then have the Ice Trail arc in the synopsis, then his early years in a separate section, then the synopsis continues as it is
- Add a note to Gray's page, saying that after his training and before joining Fairy Tail he took part in many adventures, and redirecting to the Ice Trail page
- In History
I 
Support - #1 unless provided with evidence I guess.
Raven(S)talk07:34,9/24/2014
I say number 3. Since this is being done for Fairy Tail Monthly, it must have oversight from Mashima Hakkyounotenshi (talk) 12:08, September 24, 2014 (UTC)
confirmation 12:34, September 24, 2014 (UTC)
I talked with Chaos and it said that Mashima does indeed supervise the work, checking it for any errors and whatnot. According to it, this would make Yusuke Shirato's Ice Trail canon material, and therefore I support adding it the way we would handle Fairy Tail Zero summaries for existing characters.
Wrath
Zero 03:26, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
- same! 03:32, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
Well... We could debate on whether 'supervising' = 'canon', but I guess I'm fine with it going to History section or w/e the option is Miskos3 Message 11:06, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
I Support - #2 since it makes sense to tie in everything together in his synopsis, like one nice long page. [furbie.helios.tissue.moup.yuki.tofu] 10:38, 10/6/2014
I Oppose - #1. As long as it's included in this page, I don't have a problem what is done with it ... --Sane Lunatic (talk) 10:43, October 6, 2014 (UTC)
Okay, so something needs to be done about this. This either needs to be put in synopsis or history. Like how I initially wanted with FT0, I want Ice Trail in the history. We have characters like Gildarts showing up, and we can kinda trim it down so that it fits in the history. It is in his past, and anything that happens before the main timeline is history. Never mind how Magi wiki does things, they treat Sinbad no Bouken as it is because their flashbacks pertain specifically to people that basically existed before anyone else.
WrathZero 19:03, October 9, 2014 (UTC)
- If it can be trimmed down to fit in history like a proper history section entry fits (i.e. no detailed synopsis) then put it in history. Whatever we're going to do, we need to decide now. This discussion has been open way too long. 夢Iam... 黒 JakuhōRaikōben死19:58,10/9/2014
- As far as we can see for now, it can be easily trimmed to fit in History. Example as of the first two chapters:
- After beginning his journey as Ur wanted, he was able to save a girl named Nano Leaf from being used to hatch a Devil's Egg to further the evil ambitions of the Chrono Noise guild, also destroying the egg and the guild in the process.
- On the other hand, if some details from this story prove to be important later, maybe in FT itself, this issue might have to be revisited ... --Sane Lunatic (talk) 20:13, October 9, 2014 (UTC)
- As far as we can see for now, it can be easily trimmed to fit in History. Example as of the first two chapters:
Should be done the same as was done with Mavis' page. in the synopsis 20:00, October 9, 2014 (UTC)
- If so, what about the sections in History which are written using the flashbacks? Would they go into Synopsis too? If so, for the sake of consistency, would anybody else involved in those scenarios and having them in History have to have those scenes moved to Synopsis too? For Mavis, it's only Warrod and Precht, for Gray ... there're many. So prefer History ... --Sane Lunatic (talk) 20:13, October 9, 2014 (UTC)
After reading over Gray's history, I'm inclined to agree with Wrath and Lunatic. Gray's history is far to extensive for what was done with Mavis's page to be done with his. It's just not feasible. 夢Iam... 黒 JakuhōRaikōben死20:22,10/9/2014
So ... now what? Start adding in History or hold another vote? 'Cause this Voting section got turned into a discussion in the end ... And can the first choice be slashed off or at least rephrased to something like, "AioM: Putting in Synopsis could be bothersome and too long for History." --Sane Lunatic (talk) 05:28, October 17, 2014 (UTC)
Voting (this time for real)
Alright, since this discussion's gone on way longer than it should have, and people have stopped expressing their opinions whatsoever, I say cast a vote and close it.
- Option 1: Ice Trail in History
- Option 2: Ice Trail in Gray's summary, History ends with Ur's sacrifice and Gray beginning his journey.
- Option 3: Other(explain)
I Support - Option 2 mainly because I don't want Gray's History to be too extensive, as it always is quite large. Raven(S)talk16:45,10/25/2014
Support - 1: Its history that was before the main storyline. It belongs in history-- God · Pray · 16:50,10/25/2014
Support - 1 because his history section has things from when he was already in the FT guild.
Support - Option 1, an extremely trimmed version or just providing a link to Ice Trail page (in History section, if that isn't clear). --Sane Lunatic (talk) 16:53, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
Support #1 - Gray's history is very extensive, and it covers various aspects of various points in time. I would prefer that we keep it in history as we cannot have a flashback of Gray chatting with Erza when Erza just joined FT in the present tense. It makes no sense whatsoever and it doesn't fit in anywhere else in Ice Trail, as this covers the time in between, not up to the time during.
WrathZero 16:54, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
Support #1 - If use option #2, we need another subpage under Gray article for his Ice Trail's history. SNN95
Talk 17:13, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
- Um, no we don't. He has a history section in his synopsis tab. That is where Ice Trail will go, in the history that already exists.
WrathZero 03:20, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
Support #1 - If the story isn't long then we should put it in the history section.
Animaltamer7
03:46, October 26, 2014 (UTC)
Missing Spell
Just thought I'd point out that Ice Devil's Rage is missing from Magic and Abilities. I'd add it myself, but I gotta get on the road. ~The Wallflower~
19:42,11/26/2014 19:42, November 26, 2014 (UTC)
- I'll take care of it. ^__^ 夢Iam... 黒 JakuhōRaikōben死19:44,11/26/2014
Update for age?
So we update everything except the age apparently? --Desuyo~ (talk) 21:31, March 16, 2015 (UTC)
- We don't update the age unless explicitly stated even if we have a time reference showing the character has aged-- God · Pray · 21:34,3/16/2015
Also, they were frozen in time until April X791, which is about 6 years and 4 months. That freezing of time made everything so fucked there is no point in updating their ages without a guild card or otherwise. It's cool to write (X784; X791) next to the ages though.
WrathZero 21:35, March 16, 2015 (UTC)
Eye Color
I just read the new chapter this morning and I noticed in the color cover that Gray's eye color changed from Blue to Red. Do you think we should change it or list it along with his natural color? (I definitley think he's possessed, something tells me it's that thing that possessed Rogue in the Grand Magic Games Arc) If it's not nessesary, I'm ok with it I just thought it would be a good idea. --Etweens96 (talk) 17:19, March 23, 2015 (UTC)
Regarding on using "Gray" or "Grey"
Even if official subs/manga trans. render it it as "Gray", its possible that his name could use either spelling when anglicizing it from "Gurei".
When using it for the color, "gray" is the main USA spelling while "grey" is the main UK spelling.
Personally, I might go with the official spelling.--Kadmos1 (talk) 17:10, May 30, 2015 (UTC)
Anglicizing his name into Grey is in fact possible, but, in order to be consistent with anime and manga, it would be better if his name remains the way it does now.
Dispelling
Mage 17:24, May 30, 2015 (UTC)
Gray is the official name given by Hiro Mashima, so I'm afraid this isn't even up for debate. ☆°・*CarrotSays...*・°☆ 01:16, May 31, 2015 (UTC)
Enhancement of MP
Shouldn't we add Gray's surge in magical power in his Magic and Abilities section? I also want Lucy to have this too. Seeing how Makarov commented on how their Magic Power has increased in the past year. I'm open for thoughts! 49.144.230.150 05:01, August 15, 2015 (UTC) b
All we were told is that their MP has increased, we were not given a more solid comparison. Sorry, but that's not enough to warrant such a section. More feats/proper comparisons are needed. --Sane Lunatic (talk) 10:14, March 13, 2016 (UTC)
I feel that we should add 'Immense Magic Power' to Gray's Magic and Abilities section, as stated in the Alvarez Empire arc, Invel felt a massive amount of MP coming from him and started to sweat. So I feel that we should add it, and by 'we', I mean me.--Dragneel 2353 (talk) 14:18, August 29, 2016 (UTC)
Avatar ruse
Why do we have to put (ruse) beside Gray's affiliation to Avatar everywhere? In fact, why anywhere? The fact that it was a ruse doesn't change the fact that he was an official member of Avatar. More than anything, it just seems to exist to reassure people that Gray isn't evil, which can be gleaned from the plot. 'Tis not the purpose of the tables in which (ruse) is being used. I don't really see a reason to uglify aff, nav templates, Avatar's charts, etc. I mean, Silver was also more of a ruse than a willing member of Tartaros. ._./
Still, if it has to stay, I don't really mind. Just don't think it's necessary, so asking whether I can remove it. /o/ --Sane Lunatic (talk) 10:14, March 13, 2016 (UTC)
Gray Fullbuster; human?
Should Gray's race be changed to half human, half demon? Or are we still under the theory that it was just an phase that was not permanent? Since in the Anime I know it was revealed that he was half demon (whether he had it in his blood prior or it was from when his father transferred his magic) but I am not so sure about the manga. Please correct me if I am wrong. I have not watched every single episode of Fairy Tail. I just happened to watch the last few episodes and happened to run across that episode where he is revealed to have half demon something.
Chinapanda1995 (talk) 03:13, April 14, 2016 (UTC)chinapanda1995
And to expand on that, Gray's father was 100% human as well, not Deliora. He uses devil slaying magic, which has the side effect of making you into a demon like how dragon slaying magic makes you into a dragon. However, Gray's demonification was halted, or has slowed down. But until such time he says, "Yes, I am about [x]% a demon and [x]% a human now because of my magic," he will remain just as being human.
WrathZero 03:19, April 14, 2016 (UTC)
Expert or Master Hand-to-Hand Combatant
I'm confused as to why Gray is just an expert at hand-to-hand combat. He and Natsu are evenly matched, and Natsu's listed as a master at it. So should Gray be listed as a master or should Natsu be listed as an expert? I support the former. (96.240.41.48 03:57, July 16, 2016 (UTC))
I would downgrade natsu to expert because Jacob was straight up manhandling him in hand-to-hand Delta3000 (talk) 19:03, August 26, 2016 (UTC)
- Not Natsu's page, but Jacob can turn himself invisible and is undetectable to Natsu. It doesn't make Natsu eligible to be downgraded. It just makes Jacob an asshole for using Stealth.
WrathZero 19:45, August 26, 2016 (UTC)
Honestly I'd just scrap the whole notion of Expert and Master as the two cover far too wide a scale of capability and yet at the same time are difficult to distinguish between. Instead I'd recommend using a scale with Very Competent at the top for the likes of Jacob, Hades and Laxus, then degrees of Capable - very capable, slightly capable, capable, slightly incapable and very incapable - for average-ish fighters and finally Incompetent to Very Incompetent for the not so good fighters. 20:26, August 26, 2016 (UTC)
I don't know if that would be a good scale Derax, despite the fact that you are right about the similarity of Expert and Master, but what do we have else ? And how can things like Incompetent and Very Incompetent find their ways into articles ? I can't think of characters that might have that other than the characters that didn't even fight, even Lucy would be at least something capable. But other than that, the anon does have a point, it might be just the inconsistency of the writing, but I agree that both Natsu and Gray should have the same level of H2H.
Hamody
Asgail 21:01, August 26, 2016 (UTC)
Appearance
I have a question. Could anyone let me know if they found Gray's full appearance in his current arc in color? I really appreciate it but I highly doubt that there is no because the anime hasn't gotten to the manga yet.--Jennicious (talk) 08:03, July 23, 2016 (UTC) I just wanted to point out that the "sword-thingy" (the thing on the necklace that gray wears) is actually the Rave stone that appears in Rave master. (Just a random Cherry (talk) 19:18, January 17, 2018 (UTC))