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All these dark guild pages seem to be riddled with speculation, or can be shortened down to make things easier, so does anyone mind if i clean this page up a little bit -Umi
Go ahead. I'm sure if we had any issues we'd just edit them. Dalyup! 10:21, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
Can I remove the thing about Raven Tail being one of the 4 most powerful? I don't think it was ever said they were.--Cifer64 18:15, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
- No, because the chapter that explains the Balam Alliance shows Raven Tail as one of the four "big" dark guilds indicating it is one of four of the most powerful ShockDragoon 3:05pm (ETZ)
K, I didn't remember the bubble being as big.--Cifer64 19:21, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
in the page the line "they are the smallest guild ever shown with only 6 members" but isn't that untrue now as the Cait Shelter Guild only has well Wendy that old dude and that cat thingy Faustfan 06:13, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
Real page for Grimoire heart
Is it time to make a proper page for Grimoire Heart given the turn of events.Zicoihno 00:56, October 31, 2010 (UTC)
Former Dark Guilds
Is it safe to say that since Oracion Seis has been disbanded, all of the dark guilds aligned to it (Harpuia, Red Hood, etc) have also been dissolved and can be put in the "Former Dark Guilds" category?Horologium4 23:26, December 9, 2010 (UTC)
Eh, is not better if you make separate pages for every dark guild? Id would be much more complete
Because we don't know anything about them.17:41, December 25, 2011 (UTC)
Oracion Seis Return
Well, Brain is heavily implied to be dead, Hoteye has no desire to stay with the group, and they have only just been released from prison. As such, we're waiting a bit to see where this goes.
04:56, January 10, 2014 (UTC)
For all we know they might even turn into an independant guild or disband altogether, so I agree with Wrath. Waiting a few more chapters is the better choice than rushing into anything. NoNickNeeded (talk) 09:23, January 10, 2014 (UTC)
# of Dark Guilds
In episode 52, it shows a picture of all the dark guilds, and i believe I counted 50. you can put that in there. All you might want to double check too because i could be missing one.184.108.40.206 09:34, January 29, 2014 (UTC)Death
Should we really be listing Tartaros as an active Dark Guild? Pretty much all of its members were slain. Kamikaze839 20:53, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
- That...is a really good question. Anyone else wanna chime in? ( ^_^)
21:34, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
Collapse of the Balam Alliance
Ignoring Avatar's extremely arrogant statement of being the next best thing, they said that the Balam Alliance has collapsed, which as said by Derax on chat does not mean that because the alliance is gone, the guilds are destroyed, but that because the guilds are destroyed, the alliance is gone. So, Tartaros and Grimoire dissolved? Thoughts please.
21:16, March 19, 2015 (UTC)
I say yes about Tartarus because there's really nothing left of it but Grimoire was still left with many standing members, some which even rode into the sunset with Zeref. But then again, just because they are alive doesn't mean the guild is still active... idk. I say Unknown status never hurt anyone.21:26, March 19, 2015 (UTC)
I'm up for Unknown22:58, March 19, 2015 (UTC)
- I just realized Avatar isn't a user of the wiki ._. 22:58, March 19, 2015 (UTC)
Misk, your brain is fried. D: Anyway, I'm up for Tartarus being dissolved and GH being unknown like Reli.
23:00, March 19, 2015 (UTC)
I'm cool with all that--
For Grimoire Heart I would say unknown since most of the members were still alive by the end of the Tenrou arc, for Tatarus practically dissolved since their guild master had been stolen and most of the members are already dead.04:36, March 20, 2015 (UTC)
The way I see it both guilds are dissolved. In Tartarus, most of the members were wiped out, except Franmalth from what I remember. Grimoire Heart is more tricky but let's think about it. The Master and 3 members = dead. Ultear and Meredy left. There are only 4 small fries left, and even their regular Mages were annihilated by Fairy Tail.
And there's also the issue of the guild's ace leaving. I doubt Bluenote would leave his guild had it still existed, as it way stronger than Orochi's Fin, even with only those 4 Mages left. Plus there's also Avatar's quote about the Baram alliance having collapsed. Just placing my two cents here.
We should only put in info that can be referenced; referencing it or not is secondary. It's quite rigid, but prevents any messes later on. Although it's almost certain that GH and Tartarus don't exist anymore, especially Tartarus, ... we can't really point anywhere. Avatar's statement is not a reference, it was more of an arrogant declaration, not to mention that it meant that the power of Dark Guilds had grown extremely weak. Collapse of the Alliance is open to interpretation. It mp means that the GH and Tartarus don't exist, but could also mean that they no longer hold the power to be called the strongest DGs, thus rendering the pact itself useless. So, I support Unknown. --Sane Lunatic (talk) 08:14, March 20, 2015 (UTC)
Oh, to clear up my initial response, I support both guilds being unknown. We know that, for instance, Jackal was alive after Lucy defeated him. o,o13:33, March 20, 2015 (UTC)