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Irene Belselion on par with August
So, in the new chapter (chpt. 483) the strongest female spriggan is confirmed to be Irene Belselion.
The thing that I think is stated is that the title of strongest is used by two wizards, August and Irene Belselion. Male and female. However the same person that states this also states that August can be seen as strongest individual.
My point: are we really stating that Irene Belselion is on par with August eventhough August is said to be the strongest individual? -God Serena 19:07, April 25, 2016 (UTC)
That is an interesting question, and we'll probably never know officially, only speculate. In answer to your question, to get an idea on who is more powerful/stronger, we'd have to thoroughly analyze Irene and August's feats, capabilities and magic to get a general idea. --Zachary1969 (talk) 00:53, December 9, 2019 (UTC)
Light pillar
I'm curious about Augusts' power in 489. The wiki says that it's a light pillar, but he says Melt right before, so I wonder if it's actually a pillar of fire. Which one is it? Orderorderfruit (talk) 21:42, June 13, 2016 (UTC)
- In other translations it says 'dissolve into oblivion', so we are not certain either. --Yours truly,
The Dark Overlord 05:41, June 14, 2016 (UTC)
Heat/Fire Magic?
what do you guys think?? Since Natsu said this was a heat based attack, makes sense to put heat/fire magic? thanks :)--73.191.17.103 02:00, June 22, 2016 (UTC)
- Do you know where we can find the raw version of last chapter? If the raws say Fire we make it Fire, if raws say Heat I think we should leave it this way for now.
Yours truly,
The Dark Overlord 07:16, June 22, 2016 (UTC)
I agree with dark lord, makes sense Ncduru
11:02, June 22, 2016 (UTC)
raw page Ncduru 12:39, June 23, 2016 (UTC)
bump, I think he uses fire magic just cause Natsu negated it so add fire magic?--Ncduru 16:10, October 26, 2016 (UTC)
- Do you know what the raws say? I don't speak Japanese.
-Yours truly,
The Dark Overlord 16:15, October 26, 2016 (UTC)
me neither, just asked again for it. Wrath if he sees this can read them too Ncduru 16:17, October 26, 2016 (UTC)
Lucy: August hit us with something...
Natsu: Nope! I managed to get rid of it! Sort of... It being heat-based magic really saved us!
It's a description. It's just Fire Magic on a grand scale. Natsu has always eaten fire. Calling the magic heat-based is just another way to say it's fire. That page should be deleted.
Wrath
Zero 05:41, October 27, 2016 (UTC)
cool, thought it might of been a difference Ncduru 05:46, October 27, 2016 (UTC)
Bullet Magic or Energy Beams
What you guys think that was what August did in the recent chapter to Mira? I think it's merely Energy Beams which is used the exact and does looked the same way as Dimaria's and that was what was put in her page.Starpower98 (talk) 09:50, July 12, 2016 (UTC)
Well, it looks exactly the same as what Hades did to Makarov, so either both of them are classified as Bullet Magic or both will have to go into the real of simple energy beams. Miskos3 Message 09:54, July 12, 2016 (UTC)
Didn't Hades did it in a gun-like appearance which that page says that's what the user does?Starpower98 (talk) 10:06, July 12, 2016 (UTC)
- I agree with Miskos, it's the same as Hades. So, either it is Bullet Magic from both or they both use something else entirely.
-Yours truly,
The Dark Overlord 10:10, July 12, 2016 (UTC)- My fault, totally unintentional. Wonder why that be happening.Starpower98 (talk) 10:35, July 12, 2016 (UTC)
- Nothing to worry about! Now, I've taken a look at Hades' appearance here. I think we can both agree he holds his hand like a gun here. Now compared to August here that's another story, since we can't really see in what position August's hand is at when he fires.
-Yours truly,
The Dark Overlord 10:39, July 12, 2016 (UTC) - If you look at the page after that, you can see that it's not that of a gun appearance. It's just how Dimaria did itStarpower98 (talk) 19:05, July 12, 2016 (UTC)
- I don't like the idea of Hades have his own magic and all others who do pretty much the same only have "Magic Beam". It's all about the hand, isn't it? DisneySeggewys (talk) 19:24, July 12, 2016 (UTC)
- Well it's not the matter of what you like or don't, it's just how it is. And yeah pretty much about the had which the way Hades held his and of course according to the page, he made his to that of a gun. August a page after he shot Mira shown that he did it the same way Dimaria had.Starpower98 (talk) 22:52, July 12, 2016 (UTC)
- Nothing to worry about! Now, I've taken a look at Hades' appearance here. I think we can both agree he holds his hand like a gun here. Now compared to August here that's another story, since we can't really see in what position August's hand is at when he fires.
- My fault, totally unintentional. Wonder why that be happening.Starpower98 (talk) 10:35, July 12, 2016 (UTC)
Zeref did something similar to August in Chapter 465 when he shot the Book of E.N.D., but i don't see anyone considering that as bullet magic. Why is it different here with August? B214 ♠♣♥♦00:40,7/13/2016
Exactly my point which a stubborn anon so convinced it is differentStarpower98 (talk) 05:22, July 13, 2016 (UTC)
Slow Magic?
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He clearly outsped Racer with his own speed, who said he had Slowing Magic...--BDGAF (talk) 22:23, November 8, 2016 (UTC)
Racer uses Slowing Magic. He always has; that is how he appears to move faster than others. August, to outspeed Racer, must also use Slowing Magic to enter that same perception of time. It's common sense.
WrathZero 23:23, November 8, 2016 (UTC)
"It's common sense." lmaooo, what? First of all, I know what type of magic Racer uses. Second, August outsped Racer because his speed was still faster than Racer's even when slowed. Third, "common sense", there is nothing common about what we're talking about, and anyways you were wrong so :/. --BDGAF (talk) 23:14, November 20, 2016 (UTC)
Says who? I believe you just didn't understand what was going on in that fight, August, as a king of magic, was literally showcasing that he's capable of beating Crime Sorc at their own magic. Miskos3 Message 23:22, November 20, 2016 (UTC)
But isn't it still speculation, since there is no proof? It could be that he too is using slowing magic, it could be that he can immunize himself to the manipulation or it could also be as BDGAF said... we just don't have any proof. Granted the third point is rather unlikely, but numbers 1 and 2 are equally likely in my opinion. What's worse is that we didn't even get to see how he beat Racer, since that happened entirely off-screen. NoNickNeeded (talk) 06:36, November 21, 2016 (UTC)
No, what is speculation is thinking that it was something else, because in that moment, he was using the magics of Crime Sorciere. That is why it is common sense. Miskos3 Message 10:26, November 21, 2016 (UTC)
Sometimes I really don't get the rules by which such border-line speculation cases are decided. At times the common sense conclusion is rejected due to a lack of proof and at other times you basically get yelled at for pointing out that there is no proof "Because it's common sense." NoNickNeeded (talk) 11:54, November 21, 2016 (UTC)
Admittedly, common sense is just a phrase at this point, so I'd just name it 'reading with comprehension'. I truly don't get why y'all don't see what was happening in that short fight. It's simple. I'm trying to think of how to rephrase my previous statement to make it more clear, but I feel I already made it as obvious as it gets:
- 3 members of Crime Sorciere threw their main magic at August. August made it obvious that not only he was aware of those magic, he could also make use of them in order to overpower their respective users: he was able to 'hear' Erik to such extent that he could counter his attack, he was able to fire Macbeth's Spiral Pain back at them in a way that it looked like he could use that magic even better than Macbeth. So why in the name of a penguin would it be something different for Sawyer? He used Sawyer's magic better than Sawyer himself, in order to 'outspeed' him.
There truly isn't a tutorial or a guideline on how to decide whether something is a speculation or not, that's why things can only be decided on case-by-case basis. That's why when there is a confusion, all we can do is to debate about it. However, sometimes it seems like some of you are looking at things in a very wrong way, even in cases like this one which is pretty clear imo. Miskos3 Message 13:36, November 21, 2016 (UTC)
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I like to put in for Quotes, his recent one he said to Jellal, "There is no good or evil in light, or darkness. It does not exist. If there is justice in this world, it may well lie in love, and naught else", MAN that was one deep and one of the most realistic quotes I have heard in Fairy Tail CoolJazzman (talk) 07:50, November 9, 2016 (UTC)
Do you mean the quote on top (which August currently doesn't have oO ), or the quote "collection" further down the article? Because if it's the latter, you can add it yourself. Just take care to follow the formant and put a correct reference in.
In the latter case we'd have to hold a vote and this one seems quite fitting for the top quote in my opinion, since it shows some of his views on the world. NoNickNeeded (talk) 08:21, November 9, 2016 (UTC)
Agreed Miskos3 Message 08:58, November 9, 2016 (UTC)
To Miskos3 Message THANK YOU To NoNickNeeded I actually meant for the collection below, but for the top Quote, I think so far, that would the best one to add at the moment, but let see what other people think as well. CoolJazzman (talk) 11:15, November 9, 2016 (UTC)
Age
august age, i think august born a year or 2 year after makarov born based comic. so in x792 august age is around 94 or 95. he is born in x697 or x698. cause makarov born on march 696 and then mavis left the guild, half year later she met zeref and its around august or september when zeref say he spend a special time with mavis (based on chapter 526) —This unsigned comment was made by Redenggel (talk • contribs) on 11:44, March 14, 2017.
That's a speculation which cannot be added to the article. Miskos3 Message 13:34, March 14, 2017 (UTC)
Magic
On chapter 526, it looks like he is using Meteor to dash through Gildarts and Cana, which would confirm him keeping magic he copies.
He also seemed to use Lightning Magic against Gildarts on Chapter 525.
It does seems like hes using lightning magic he learned from laxus and meteor from jellal but others might say its speculation since the manga is in black and white so we cant really say or he might just be using his own magic energy to do those things, unless a lot of people agrees that he did then ofcourse this wiki can add it in his page. I really hope they will release a new anime so it can help us distinguish what kinds of attacsk are being used. LightningGeist
15:52, April 26, 2017 (UTC)
Fair enough, thanks for responding.
Sorry, I speak portuguese. August usa Mimic. Copy Magic é uma magia de transformação, e pode mudar a aparência e copiar os objetos do usuário copiado. Como o August não consegue copiar objetos, para usar Holder Magic, só pode ser Mimic sua magia, pelas que são conhecidas. Mimic é a do Kurohebi. User:Danii28008
More on Personailty
Shouldn't we add more to his personalty now, such as bit of a twisted side, when questioning love between parent and child, and his selfless love when it comes to his parents, how he is willing to follow his dad, because he saved him. Or when it comes to his mom, where he rather killed himself then kill her. And he never told either one the truth, but wishes he could have one moment with his mom. CoolJazzman (talk) 17:38, May 13, 2017 (UTC)
Mavis And Zeref
If Mavis is the Mother of August and Zeref the father Why doesn't Zeref have a (Husband) or (Biological Father) link on Mavis's page connecting Mavis and Zeref together? This is just a Suggestion For anyone who agrees. CornisFake (talk) 03:46, July 30, 2017 (UTC)
Age (again)
I think, it's confirmed how old August is.
- 96 years prior, March: Makarov was born. (March X696)
- more that one year later according to Mavis, (8th month) August: Zeref and Mavis met, fell in love and made (character) August. Mavis' "corpse" was discovered and her grave was made, while in fact she was kept alive in order to observe her situation. (August X697)
- nine months later: August's birth. (May X698)
- the events take place at September X792. August was born May X698.
Source: Chapters 448-451, 525-527. Fairy Tail Zero: 12-13.
Make at least, that August was born X698.
Reyder Dister (talk) 03:47, September 30, 2017 (UTC)
Can you provide the direct link to the page that shows august was born in may x698? it would be a more concrete proof and reference for the wiki, also the wiki doesn't put infos such as dates and age without it actually being shown in the manga even if its obvious. LightningGeist 04:16, September 30, 2017 (UTC)
Especially with a case like August. During her pregnancy Mavis sort-of died and was frozen into a crystal. We have no idea if or how this might have affected the length of the pregnancy or how long it took Precht to find out about the baby and come up with a way to get it out of the crystal.
Also both his parents were affected by a curse that turned them immortal. While it's clear that August himself wasn't immortal, that doesn't mean the curse didn't mess with his growth (and thus again with the length of pregnancy) in some way. NoNickNeeded (talk) 08:08, September 30, 2017 (UTC)
His conception was in August X697 so he was born in the coming months. The only age we could put is 95-96. Happy said the war was in September when Brandish was locked up so it's past August. We just don't know though exactly when he was born, we just know when he was conceived. So prob best not to put an age Ncduru 18:37, October 1, 2017 (UTC)
English voice
This Twitter conversation with Funimation ADR director Kyle Phillips confirms August's English dub actor is Bruce DuBose. SubZeroSilver (talk) 20:00, January 8, 2019 (UTC)
Its now been added. LightningGeist 02:21, January 9, 2019 (UTC)
Fire Dragon Slayer Magic
In Chapter 526 on Page 14, when August's past usages of Copy Magic is referred to, one of the occasions shown is the pillar of fire he used against Natsu, so he's a user of Fire Dragon Slayer Magic (under Copy Magic) rather than a plain user of Fire Magic. --Neffyarious (talk) 23:01, March 27, 2019 (UTC)
You are correct based on that chapter where it shown that the fire he used was actually copied from natsu. ok lets change it and feel free to double check if i missed something. LightningGeist 01:11, March 28, 2019 (UTC)
I have some doubts about whether August actually copied Natsu's Fire Dragon Slaying Magic. Usually, from what we've seen in the manga, you have to be enchanted by a dragon, have dragon lacrima implanted in your body, or (as confirmed in "Fairy Tail: 100 Year Quest") you have to eat the flesh of a dragon, even if it is Caster Magic. Also, from what I have seen, most Dragon Slaying Magic includes melee attacks and imbuing the limbs with the respective element of said magic. August simply summoned forth a gargantuan pillar of heat, no melee moves involved. I'm just pointing this out. --Zachary1969
Keep in mind there are other characters who were able to copy natsu's magic such as Fukuro and Velveno, non of them are dragon slayers so august whose signature magic is to copy other people's magic also makes sense especially when he was talking about how his magic work & the fire pillar was shown as part of the flash back denoting that the fire created was caused by natsu's fire dragon slayer magic. If the fire pillar he created were never shown in the flash back then it would mean its just him using fire magic but the manga clearly showed that it was just him copying natsu's fire magic since natsu is the only person who uses fire magic that august met when he created that fire pillar.
Yes most of the dragon slayer magic are melee attacks but that doesn't mean they cant use their element in different ways similar to how natsu uses his fire against erigor where he made it into a rope and in another occasion just releasing fire around him, so august using fire dragon slayer magic just to create fire is not impossible. LightningGeist 00:59, May 28, 2019 (UTC)
Understandable so it is confirmed that August can Copy Dragon Slaying Magic. Although there is still one thing that puzzles me: HOW did August copy Natsu's Fire Dragon Slaying Magic? Because according to the wiki, in order for August to copy magic, he has to bear witness to it, to see it. As far as I can remember Natsu didn't use any Fire Dragon Slaying Magic in the negotiations with August. The only thing that I can think of that comes close to Fire Dragon Slaying Magic was God Serena's Purgatory Dragon Slaying Magic and that's technically like Fire Dragon Slaying Magic but also at the same time not. Because when God Serena performed Cavern Dragon Slaying Magic, Jura questioned if it was Earth Dragon Slaying Magic, but August replied, "No." Implying that it's not the same thing. Unless August can copy magic without seeing it, like sensing it, then I don't see how he could have copied Natsu's Fire Dragon Slaying Magic. --Zachary1969
The manga never explained anymore than what was shown, us coming up with our own explanations will make it speculation at best we can just blame mashima for not explaining everything and making things consistent. The whole fight between god serena and jura were never shown in the flashback of august explaining his magic making it unrelated and basing what happened in that fight as a basis on august's magic is speculative. Keep in mind that most of the magic he copied has their users near or fighting him so that alone makes it consistent with him being near natsu and the crime sorciere and copying their magic. LightningGeist 02:52, June 9, 2019 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for explaining. I do have to admit that Mashima did not explain everything in the last chapter of Fairy Tail and everything is kinda rushed and confusing. And yes it is speculative and we don't exactly know how August's Copy Magic works. And going by what you said that he was near Natsu and being able to copy his magic does support another thing that did bug me: being able to copy Gildarts' magic. As you said, it's just speculation when the wiki says that August is able to Copy any Caster Magic he bears witness to. If that were true and the only way that August's magic works, then he wouldn't have been able to copy Gildarts' Crash Magic because Gildarts hit August from behind, out of his field of vision, but August was able to instantly copy it. Basically what I'm saying is that I agree that we can only speculate at this point and the example I provided (Gildarts' fight with August) does support what you said. --Zachary1969
Actually in the official translation, it never states that he has to bare witness to it, it is just instantaneous copy magic plus making other mages powerless. He can’t copy holder magic because they possess a unique or something, like how Lucy cannot call her spirits without specific keys and contracts. https://mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628917 --CNBA3 (talk) 05:19, July 14, 2019 (UTC)
Fairy Glitter
Shouldn't one of August's magical abilities that he's copied also include Fairy Glitter? Because according to the wiki and the manga, August is able to copy, master and nullify any Caster Magic he bears witness to. In his fight against Gildarts Clive and Cana Alberona, it was shown that Cana attacked August with Fairy Glitter but it had no effect on him. So going by that logic, shouldn't it be listed as one of the magics he can use? —This unsigned comment was made by Zachary1969 (talk • contribs) on 04:47, May 16, 2019.
Yes he has the ability to copy magical abilities but it was never shown that he copied and used fairy glitter so saying that he can use it is speculation. LightningGeist 04:53, May 16, 2019 (UTC)
Sorry to open this back up again, but it was said that August nullified Cana's Fairy Glitter the same way he nullified other spells, so it should go under his Copy Magic. --Neffyarious (talk) 16:15, August 3, 2019 (UTC)
But in the fairy tail universe nullifying magic doesnt automatically mean they can use that magic. When august copied the other spells he was shown using those magic against their users so he never nullified any magic since all of those magic were still used against him and he just did the same to his advantage, he uses crush magic to reassemble himself and revert the effects of gildart's crush, he used his spiral pain against macbeth's spiral pain, he used slow magic so he can catch up to sawyer's speed and so on.
The way i saw it in the anime episode after august was hit by fairy glitter he is seen unhurt & just standing there like it was nothing & never even made an effort to dodge it. In chapter 524 he was also seen standing there after being hit by fairy glitter just like in the anime. The anime episode never said that he nullified it using magic & the manga did not say anything about it being nullified at best both sources says august took no damage or he never got hurt from that spell so how can we be sure if it's just him taking fairy glitter as it is and never got hurt or he actually used the fairy glitter spell against cana's fairy glitter spell in order to nullify it.
Keep in mind even though he is known to copy magic he is still considered the strongest male spriggan shield & known as the wizard king who was shown to have various magical abilities like sleep magic, bullet magic, ars magia, magical barrier, magical camouflage to evade detection and an alternate form. So some might say he's just powerful that fairy glitter didn't affect him even without using any magic. Feel free to double check coz on both sources after being hit he was just shown standing without any trace or confirmation of magic being used. That is why it's still hard for me to agree that he used fairy glitter. LightningGeist 08:12, August 4, 2019 (UTC)
Gildarts says that he nullifies magic by first copying it, and that he nullified Fairy Glitter the same way as he did Crush. Chapter 526: "Instantaneous copying of magic, at the same time nullifying the mage's magic in front of you" "Even though you can protect yourself from my magic and Fairy Glitter, why did you dodge Cana's cards?". --Neffyarious (talk) 19:28, August 5, 2019 (UTC)
I've double checked again and it did say that but i only have access to a fan translation so hopefully its correct so ima go add it then. LightningGeist 01:09, August 6, 2019 (UTC)
I just wanna say that I agree with Neffyarious and his argument. Because put simply, in the Fairy Tail universe, there's different ways of nullifying and cancelling an opponents magic. One such case is Byro Cracy from Earth Land, in his case he uses Nullification Magic which simply nullifies his opponents magic. In August's case, August is nullifying his opponents magic by using their magic against them after he copies it. Zachary1969 (talk) 17:40, September 29, 2019 (UTC)
Anime filler magic
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In episode 316 august used different elemental magic against gildarts and since im basing it on fanmade subtitles it was shown that he is yelling certain words as listed below
Sink = The earth rippled and gildarts began to sink and in order to dispel it he destroyed the ground
Rip = wind surrounded gildarts and attacking him
Blast = explosions started to appear around gildarts
Realize = was just august using the crush magic that he copied from gildarts
I double checked the calamity curse used by tempester since sink, rip, blast, seems to be similar to his magic the only difference is what they said, tempester uses sound effects to activate his spells, while august used words so on one hand we can just label august using calamity curse and crush after copying it from gildarts
On the other hand since august is the wizard king its not impossible for him to learn various magic so we can even say
Sink is just him using earth magic and making gildarts sink
Rip is just him using wind magic
Blast is just him using fire magic
Realize is just him using crush magic
Keep in mind that Sink, rip and blast only happened in the anime and and it never happened in the manga so we should at best separate them from the magic he used in the manga such as not labeling Blast as a fire dragon slayer magic spell since august copied fire dragon slayer magic from natsu.
So what do you think we should do with his anime only spells specifically Sink, Rip & Blast? LightningGeist 00:38, July 7, 2019 (UTC)
Yeah I'll make them I'm about to rewatch tartaros episodes now to see if it's the same thing temperster said. I also think "Melt" when he copied natsu's fire is a spell too so I'll make them, you can close this if you wantNcduru 00:42, July 7, 2019 (UTC)
Ok feel free to do them all to avoid edit conflicts and confusion. LightningGeist 00:49, July 7, 2019 (UTC)
Spiral Pain
When fighting Macbeth, doesn't August counter his Spiral Pain spell with one of his own? --Neffyarious (talk) 15:57, July 7, 2019 (UTC)
I remember that fight so i double checked, as seen here when it was used on him the fan sub says "he knew it too" then macbeth's attack was ineffective. In the manga the fan translation says "yours is indeed a peculiar magic but i am familiar with its nuances."
I think that what he meant was that just like how he copied the magic of sawyer and erik, he too knew macbeth's magic and also used it against and the rest of Crime Sorciere so ill update the pages needed to be updated and feel free to double check them. LightningGeist 23:18, July 7, 2019 (UTC)
Staffmanship
In episode 316, August use his Staff combat, can you add to the page? (Shemar322 (talk) 00:00, July 11, 2019 (UTC))
It's now been added. LightningGeist 00:44, July 11, 2019 (UTC)
Child actor
Episode 318 confirms the voice of August as a child is Natsumi Fujiwara, the same actress as Dimaria Yesta. SubZeroSilver (talk) 00:26, July 21, 2019 (UTC)
It's now been added. LightningGeist 08:16, July 23, 2019 (UTC)
- Kyle Phillips tweeted that Brittany Lauda voices August as a child in English. SubZeroSilver (talk) 12:11, August 23, 2019 (UTC)
Disaster vs Calamity
I get it’s rather the same thing. But as Wizard King the English translation of Madō Ō is used wouldn’t it be accurate to have Calamity be the translation for Saigai instead of Disaster?[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 05:05, September 26, 2019 (UTC)
The official english translation that was published used the term Disaster so for the sake of accuracy that is what we follow. LightningGeist 06:16, September 26, 2019 (UTC)
Incomplete info
Is there any particular reason the page is left without the final parts of his battle against Gildarts and Cana and his last moments? Kamikaze839
It is mainly due to lack of qualified editors that are able to edit it at the moment, some people who do want to edit the wiki tend to ignore the wiki format and policies making their contributions unacceptable. If you want you can make a draft in your user page while following the wiki's policies as seen here and we can help you finalize it before being added into the page. LightningGeist 05:25, February 28, 2020 (UTC)