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Makarov[]

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Shouldn't Makarov be listed under users of this magic type as well? The spell effects when he used during his fight with Hades were identical to the ones Hades used. Not only that, while I was rereading earlier chapters, I noticed that Makarov used this spell to block attacks as early as his fight with Jose. You can even compare the mudra Makarov performs with his later fight with Hades LionsLight 07:18, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

It seems like so. Relikz Relikz Talk (Talk Page) 23:59, December 24, 2011 (UTC)

As seen here and here, they look like the same Magic. Also, when Hades performs this Magic for the first time, he does it with just the sweep of his finger and Makarov is surprised that he can do it so easy while it takes him more time and mudras to do it. Relikz Relikz Talk (Talk Page) 20:09, December 25, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, they look like the exact same type of Magic.  Iam...JakuhōRaikōben  04:17,12/26/2011 

Support Support - i also think Makarov uses the same Magic. Would also explain his knowledge of it as well i suppose. talk  Garyness  04:32, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Name and Translation[]

I'm confused; if the translation is Amaterasu mahō-jin shouldn't the name of the article be Amaterasu Magic?-- Suzaku 語達人Fairy Tail symbolラクサスの塔 18:25, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

The page's rōmaji says only Amaterasu so this leads me to believe that you have the raw chapters yourself right? Anyway, I don't speak japanese but I do know that Magic in japanese is only mahō. What does jin mean? RelikzTalk PageTalk 18:30, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant "Amaterasu Magic Circle." 天照 means Amaterasu, 魔法陣 means mahō-jin or Magic Circle/Seal.-- Suzaku 語達人Fairy Tail symbolラクサスの塔 18:44, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Well, actually, I just remembered I talked to Chaos about that last year. You can see our conversation here and he says it's only Amaterasu RelikzTalk PageTalk 20:05, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Well if the kanji are the source of the misunderstanding, I'll remove them as Chaos had prescribed.-- Suzaku 語達人Fairy Tail symbolラクサスの塔 20:16, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

So the kanji is the one making the trouble? I'm sorry. I would've removed it last year but since I don't know what those scribbles mean... RelikzTalk PageTalk 20:22, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Makarov[]

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Makarov not a user of Amaterasu
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I want to open the discussion about this again by saying, just because he knows about it.. It doesn't mean he could used it, he is old of course he had tons of experiences. In facts, Mavis also knows a lot of magics although she hasn't used any magics yet. But, my point is that it is speculation and I think we don't do that in here.. Messithemesser (talk) 23:05, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Have you looked at the pictures? He is seen using Amaterasu spells here and here. Wanna Talk?

Yup. He has been seen using it RelikzTalk PageTalk 23:14, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Did he called it that?? As long as he doesn't call it that.. It's just your imagination. Then have u seen this chapter, do u see any different in runes between Hades' type 100 amaterasu and Makarov's three pillar of gods?? Messithemesser (talk) 23:16, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

To make my points, many spells used magical runes/mudras but doesn't mean they're the same. Messithemesser (talk) 23:18, November 23, 2012 (UTC)
That's like saying that Cosmos doesn't use Plant Magic cuz she hasn't called it that or that Makarov doesn't use Fire Magic because he didn't say it was when he did this. RelikzTalk PageTalk 23:20, November 23, 2012 (UTC)
Agreed. Wanna Talk?
In there we saw the plants for fire we saw Natsu ate it. For this one we saw magical runes. The runes styles are even the same for amaterasu and pillars of Gods but they're different spells aren't they?? Messithemesser (talk) 23:25, November 23, 2012 (UTC)
Says who? I always thought Pillar Gods were part of Amaterasu, but since it was done as separate Magic initially, I didn't argue it. Too lazy to do argue, specially once the anime seem totally different... RelikzTalk PageTalk 23:28, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

*sigh* Hate arguing (in English). It's obviously the same kind of Magic just different spells. And I don't really get why you're reopening an old discussion. Wanna Talk?

What I learnt from the chapter is Makarov stating about Magical Field Spell when stating amaterasu and pillar of Gods. So, the similarity is that both are Magical Field Spells. Messithemesser (talk) 23:28, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

What the hell is a Magical Field Spell? RelikzTalk PageTalk 23:29, November 23, 2012 (UTC)
see here and here, makarov's statement. Messithemesser (talk) 23:31, November 23, 2012 (UTC)
Mangafox don't work for me RelikzTalk PageTalk 23:32, November 23, 2012 (UTC)
I'm trying to say that this is a heavy speculation and we should just wait until he really used it. That's what this wiki always do, waiting....Messithemesser (talk) 23:36, November 23, 2012 (UTC)
Its not speculation when it looks the same. As I said, that's like saying that Cosmos doesn't use Plant Magic because she didn't say it was. RelikzTalk PageTalk 05:30, November 24, 2012 (UTC)
What if in the latter chapter Cosmos said the specific name of her mgic, doesn't that mean we've been speculating that she uses plant magic. That what we've done with Makarov right now, speculating until it is shown whether it's amaterasu or not. Are u saying it's okay to speculate this kind of thing?? 31.205.1.33 09:31, November 24, 2012 (UTC)
This is getting confusing. Wanna Talk?

I got it, it can't be Amaterasu for makarov because he drew the runes around himself while clearly for Hades' type 28 it looks like a cannon and type 100 Hades drew it around Makarov, again when Hades used it against Laxus he drew the formula around Laxus. So if Makarov did used Amaterasu, there is no way he would drawn it around himself (is he trying to self-explode??). So what Makarov used is more likely to be defensive runes which probably weaker than three pillars of Gods. Messithemesser (talk) 12:23, November 24, 2012 (UTC)

NOW we are getting somewhere. Thanks for that proposal and I support your idea. I now think that whatever he did here is also a Maximum Defense Seal like he did here RelikzTalk PageTalk 12:45, November 24, 2012 (UTC)

So..?? does or does not Makarov able to use Amaterasu then??? Messithemesser (talk) 16:20, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Let's see what people think since there are two possibilities.

#1: Makarov knows Amaterasu and is using it here or
#2: This is a Maximum Defense Seal like he did here.

VOTE!! I Support Support - #2 RelikzTalk PageTalk 20:59, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Support Support - #2 Messithemesser (talk) 21:01, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Support Support - #2 since it makes more sense x3 I hate seeing content that cant be explained so this is helpful :Umnei:Talk to me!

Support Support - #2.Chibi StingMega Chibi Cobra 21:04, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Support Support - #2 <<< Rora*** 21:06, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Neutral Neutral - I... always thought it was an attempt to attack, something similar to this, perhaps? But since Hades surprised him with Amaterasu, it was never casted. Imo it couldn't be a defensive spell, both Hades and Makarov were trying to attack at that time. So what am I trying to say? That it's not Amaterasu but not a defensive spell either. Yeah, I'm probably not helping... Miskos3 Message 21:07, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Why the hell does everyone link me to mangafox?! I can't see mangafox... RelikzTalk PageTalk 21:17, November 27, 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, how about this one Miskos3 Message 07:22, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

Support Minimum Support - #2 I don't like idea that much, anyway. RifatmfaridNatsu and HappyTalk 06:37, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

Neutral Neutral - Feat-kun :3 >.< 7:24 PM, 11/28/2012


Usage[]

I had a look at the page I still can't figure out what is the meaning of "various purposes" ? Hades only used this magic to attack only and specifically explosions, but it is not accurate to just call it that and from where did we get that it can be used differently ? we only saw two forumlas, 28 and 100 and they were just explosions, so I want to discuss changing the magic usage in the page. Unless this had already happened.

HamodyTartaros' NecromancerAsgail 21:50, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

Maybe it's there because Amaterasu also depleted magic from one of Laxus' limbs when he was hit by it... though I'd call that an added effect rather than a different purpose, since even then it seemed to be first and fore-most an explosion. So I agree that the sentence should be changed. NoNickNeeded (talk) 22:38, October 17, 2015 (UTC)

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