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==God Seeds==
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[[Chapter 54]] clarifies that the people living on Aldoron's body are distinct from the God Seeds, which resided within the orbs; the massive mob from Chapter 52 is the form [[Wolfen]] takes. [[User:SubZeroSilver|SubZeroSilver]] ([[User talk:SubZeroSilver|talk]]) 12:50, April 22, 2020 (UTC)
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Based on your last edit it would mean that the god seeds are only the five guardian deities correct? but what about the god seeds that were acting as citizens of draseal? I thought everything that grows on aldoron's back are god seeds coz you know they are the seeds of a dragon god thats why its called God Seeds, but among the god seeds there are the five guardian deities that was residing in aldoron's orbs. So in a way all guardian deities are god seeds but not all the god seeds are composed of the guardian deities since some god seeds are nameless like the ones pretending to be people and whose purpose is to heal the wood dragon. What do you think? {{User:LightningGeist/Sig1}} 12:57, April 22, 2020 (UTC)
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I just want to add these here incase others would want to share their thoughts.
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In chapter 50 it was shown that the citizens are part of aldoron himself and were described as "seeds" with quotation marks possibly to note that there's more to reveal about it later on and not to spoil it early on. In chapter 52 we are introduced with the first named god seed which is wolfen who then introduced a mob of good seeds similar to him.
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I also checked chapter 54 and i cant seem to find where it says that only the guardian deities are the only god seeds that exist. The way i see it, the guardian deities are the only God seeds with names while the rest are unnamed and not as important as the five that is why majority of the god seeds are just treated as nameless citizens and meant to grow on aldorons back and heal him while the five are meant to protect him with their own ways.
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Metro also created a new batch of larger and bulkier god seeds and metro was said to command the army and where would metro get an army its not like they will employ or recruit other beings to fight for aldoron therefore the logical option is for aldoron and metro to create more god seeds as part of their so called army.
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Lastly when the God seed version of aldoron is talking to natsu he introduced the five as guardian deities and that's it, aldoron himself never called them god seeds as if it was a title or a name of the group, and the way i see it whenever a named god seed introduce themselves they are saying that they are a god seed which denotes what kind of being they are and followed by their name, therefore we get "I am the God Seed Metro" where the word god seed is used to describe what they are or what race they are.
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So in short it was consistently shown that everything that grows on the wood dragon god aldoron are tree and plant like beings and all of them are referred to as the wood dragon god's seeds or god seeds, and among the god seeds that grew from aldoron are the five guardian deities who each have their own names and specific roles making them elites compared to the god seeds acting as metro's minions and the god seeds acting as draseal's citizens.
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That is why i believe that the current setup is fine and we can even wait for more chapters since it might clarify things up and differentiate the guardian deities, the draseal citizens and the minions summoned by metro as three different races. {{User:LightningGeist/Sig1}} 14:21, April 22, 2020 (UTC)
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:The citizens describe themselves as Aldoron's nutrients. Wolfen describes himself as his guardian, which is supported by Aldoron's description of them as "guardian deities". Also, Chapter 54 doesn't verbally describe Metro's army as God Seeds at any point. Thus, classifying the citizens as God Seeds seems more interpretative on the editors' part—like how [[Sonya]]'s article originally presented her as over 400 years old just because she existed 400 years ago when her age was not only never said, but flat out disproven by the anime 's revelation that she traveled through Eclipse (a pre-existing method of allowing present characters to exist in ancient times without affecting their age)—than keeping them distinct until more conclusive evidence arises. [[User:SubZeroSilver|SubZeroSilver]] ([[User talk:SubZeroSilver|talk]]) 15:50, April 22, 2020 (UTC)
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So youre saying the citizens should just be labeled as just sentient seeds or nutrients and seperate from the race of the god seeds, while the guardian deities are the only existing god seeds, as for the minions metro controls what would we label them if they are not nutrients and god seeds? {{User:LightningGeist/Sig1}} 15:59, April 22, 2020 (UTC)
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Ok i've now updated the pages feel free to double check them and as for metro's minions i just called them wood golems as a placeholder for now. {{User:LightningGeist/Sig1}} 17:00, April 22, 2020 (UTC)
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:"Wood Golems" works. But for the record, Metro's description in Japanese is メトロは力の大群を持ち (''Metoro wa chikara no taigun o mochi''), which would more accurately mean "Metro is in charge of powerful hordes"; that's the only description they have. Also, the word used to describe the citizens as 種 (''tane''), or "seeds". [[User:SubZeroSilver|SubZeroSilver]] ([[User talk:SubZeroSilver|talk]]) 17:21, April 22, 2020 (UTC)
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As for metro's army or hordes i think our only option for now is basing it on the official english translation for the sake of accuracy, as for the citizens ill add the translation in aldorons page to highlight that its different. {{User:LightningGeist/Sig1}} 17:26, April 22, 2020 (UTC)
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==Strength==
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For Immense Strength, can you add how Aldoron easily lift the city hands when he move and how he easily destroyed massive areas and left hand city when he smashed hand to the ground please. ([[User:Shemar322|Shemar322]] ([[User talk:Shemar322|talk]]) 08:57, May 7, 2020 (UTC))
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It's now been added feel free to double check. {{User:LightningGeist/Sig1}} 09:37, May 7, 2020 (UTC)
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For strength I wanted to add something. In Chapter 55, the God Seed Aldoron says, "Long has Aldoron waited for this time. The time he would awaken once more. The time to crush Guiltina's grounds underfoot and claim everything as our land… Centuries ago, Aldoron came here to rest after being injured in battle with Acnologia. He was not always this immense originally, but his body was still large enough to bear a single town. In order store more power, Aldoron built a town upon himself, and survived by absorbing the nutrients of the people living there. Eventually his body continued to grow and grow until his vast size surpassed the mountains and clouds. It was then that Aldoron realized he could not control his power. Thus, he birthed five Guardian Deities to suppress it." Does this mean that Aldoron needs the Five Guardian Deities (the God Seeds) to help him control his magical power? Or did he learn to control his power when he was "asleep"? [[User:Zachary1969|Zachary1969]] ([[User talk:Zachary1969|talk]]) 00:37, May 8, 2020 (UTC)
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I double checked again and i cant find where it says that he learn to control his power when he was asleep, the way i see it by default aldoron can control his magic power but after resting for too long and constantly growing and storing power and absorbing nutrients aldoron as become "overcharged" to the point that he could not control it coz his magic power has grown so much that its overwhelming for him and that is why he created the five orbs and the god seeds to suppress it and make it controllable and thats it. So ill go and mention this in his immense magic power section too coz the chapter never said it was aldoron's literal physical strength. {{User:LightningGeist/Sig1}} 01:22, May 8, 2020 (UTC)

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DurabilityEdit

Hey for Immense Durability, can we add how Aldoron emerged unharmed by the Fleet of ships with the Uranus Cannons please. (CoolJazzman (talk) 13:10, April 7, 2020 (UTC))

It's now been added, feel free to double check. LightningGeistLaxus Chibi 13:38, April 7, 2020 (UTC)

COOL THANK YOU(CoolJazzman (talk) 13:47, April 7, 2020 (UTC))

God SeedsEdit

This discussion is closed. The result of this discussion is:
God Seeds and Aldoron's nutrients seeds are separate.
Please do not edit this discussion.

Chapter 54 clarifies that the people living on Aldoron's body are distinct from the God Seeds, which resided within the orbs; the massive mob from Chapter 52 is the form Wolfen takes. SubZeroSilver (talk) 12:50, April 22, 2020 (UTC)

Based on your last edit it would mean that the god seeds are only the five guardian deities correct? but what about the god seeds that were acting as citizens of draseal? I thought everything that grows on aldoron's back are god seeds coz you know they are the seeds of a dragon god thats why its called God Seeds, but among the god seeds there are the five guardian deities that was residing in aldoron's orbs. So in a way all guardian deities are god seeds but not all the god seeds are composed of the guardian deities since some god seeds are nameless like the ones pretending to be people and whose purpose is to heal the wood dragon. What do you think? LightningGeistLaxus Chibi 12:57, April 22, 2020 (UTC)

I just want to add these here incase others would want to share their thoughts.

In chapter 50 it was shown that the citizens are part of aldoron himself and were described as "seeds" with quotation marks possibly to note that there's more to reveal about it later on and not to spoil it early on. In chapter 52 we are introduced with the first named god seed which is wolfen who then introduced a mob of good seeds similar to him.

I also checked chapter 54 and i cant seem to find where it says that only the guardian deities are the only god seeds that exist. The way i see it, the guardian deities are the only God seeds with names while the rest are unnamed and not as important as the five that is why majority of the god seeds are just treated as nameless citizens and meant to grow on aldorons back and heal him while the five are meant to protect him with their own ways.

Metro also created a new batch of larger and bulkier god seeds and metro was said to command the army and where would metro get an army its not like they will employ or recruit other beings to fight for aldoron therefore the logical option is for aldoron and metro to create more god seeds as part of their so called army.

Lastly when the God seed version of aldoron is talking to natsu he introduced the five as guardian deities and that's it, aldoron himself never called them god seeds as if it was a title or a name of the group, and the way i see it whenever a named god seed introduce themselves they are saying that they are a god seed which denotes what kind of being they are and followed by their name, therefore we get "I am the God Seed Metro" where the word god seed is used to describe what they are or what race they are.

So in short it was consistently shown that everything that grows on the wood dragon god aldoron are tree and plant like beings and all of them are referred to as the wood dragon god's seeds or god seeds, and among the god seeds that grew from aldoron are the five guardian deities who each have their own names and specific roles making them elites compared to the god seeds acting as metro's minions and the god seeds acting as draseal's citizens.

That is why i believe that the current setup is fine and we can even wait for more chapters since it might clarify things up and differentiate the guardian deities, the draseal citizens and the minions summoned by metro as three different races. LightningGeistLaxus Chibi 14:21, April 22, 2020 (UTC)

The citizens describe themselves as Aldoron's nutrients. Wolfen describes himself as his guardian, which is supported by Aldoron's description of them as "guardian deities". Also, Chapter 54 doesn't verbally describe Metro's army as God Seeds at any point. Thus, classifying the citizens as God Seeds seems more interpretative on the editors' part—like how Sonya's article originally presented her as over 400 years old just because she existed 400 years ago when her age was not only never said, but flat out disproven by the anime 's revelation that she traveled through Eclipse (a pre-existing method of allowing present characters to exist in ancient times without affecting their age)—than keeping them distinct until more conclusive evidence arises. SubZeroSilver (talk) 15:50, April 22, 2020 (UTC)

So youre saying the citizens should just be labeled as just sentient seeds or nutrients and seperate from the race of the god seeds, while the guardian deities are the only existing god seeds, as for the minions metro controls what would we label them if they are not nutrients and god seeds? LightningGeistLaxus Chibi 15:59, April 22, 2020 (UTC)

Ok i've now updated the pages feel free to double check them and as for metro's minions i just called them wood golems as a placeholder for now. LightningGeistLaxus Chibi 17:00, April 22, 2020 (UTC)

"Wood Golems" works. But for the record, Metro's description in Japanese is メトロは力の大群を持ち (Metoro wa chikara no taigun o mochi), which would more accurately mean "Metro is in charge of powerful hordes"; that's the only description they have. Also, the word used to describe the citizens as 種 (tane), or "seeds". SubZeroSilver (talk) 17:21, April 22, 2020 (UTC)

As for metro's army or hordes i think our only option for now is basing it on the official english translation for the sake of accuracy, as for the citizens ill add the translation in aldorons page to highlight that its different. LightningGeistLaxus Chibi 17:26, April 22, 2020 (UTC)

StrengthEdit

For Immense Strength, can you add how Aldoron easily lift the city hands when he move and how he easily destroyed massive areas and left hand city when he smashed hand to the ground please. (Shemar322 (talk) 08:57, May 7, 2020 (UTC))

It's now been added feel free to double check. LightningGeistLaxus Chibi 09:37, May 7, 2020 (UTC)

For strength I wanted to add something. In Chapter 55, the God Seed Aldoron says, "Long has Aldoron waited for this time. The time he would awaken once more. The time to crush Guiltina's grounds underfoot and claim everything as our land… Centuries ago, Aldoron came here to rest after being injured in battle with Acnologia. He was not always this immense originally, but his body was still large enough to bear a single town. In order store more power, Aldoron built a town upon himself, and survived by absorbing the nutrients of the people living there. Eventually his body continued to grow and grow until his vast size surpassed the mountains and clouds. It was then that Aldoron realized he could not control his power. Thus, he birthed five Guardian Deities to suppress it." Does this mean that Aldoron needs the Five Guardian Deities (the God Seeds) to help him control his magical power? Or did he learn to control his power when he was "asleep"? Zachary1969 (talk) 00:37, May 8, 2020 (UTC)

I double checked again and i cant find where it says that he learn to control his power when he was asleep, the way i see it by default aldoron can control his magic power but after resting for too long and constantly growing and storing power and absorbing nutrients aldoron as become "overcharged" to the point that he could not control it coz his magic power has grown so much that its overwhelming for him and that is why he created the five orbs and the god seeds to suppress it and make it controllable and thats it. So ill go and mention this in his immense magic power section too coz the chapter never said it was aldoron's literal physical strength. LightningGeistLaxus Chibi 01:22, May 8, 2020 (UTC)

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