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Acnologia and Gildarts?????

I think the dragon Gildarts told Natsu about when he returned to the guild is Acnologia.--Seeyssimon 02:59, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

That information is on the page already. talk  Garyness  03:04, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Water

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I think Acnologia is a water dragon.Element opposite to fire.Because there is no water dragon slayer .And also it absorbs water during it's breath.fire and water are oppsite know.(117.216.102.233 08:52, November 30, 2012 (UTC)watch episode 122)

Complete speculation. Éclair MovieUltraprime2Let's talkChibi Mystogan 08:55, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

IT MIGHT HAVE COMBINATIONAL CAPACITY LIKE "LIGHTNING FLAME DRAGON MODE".SO IT MIGHT HAD ATE BOTH WATER AND UNCONTROLLABLE DARK AURA OF ZEREF.THIS MIGHT TURN IT INTO DRAGON.THAT IS WHY IT WANT REVENGE ON ZEREF .SO IT MIGHT COME TO TENOURJIIMA.SUITABLE NAME

BLACK WATER DRAGON "ACNOLOGIA"("--K.shibi007 (talk) 09:10, November 30, 2012 (UTC)")

Again none of that has been proven its Complete Speculation. LizzyHappy ChibiTalk 11/30/12 9:13 (UTC)

Acnologia's element will unknown until it's revealed in the manga or anime. For further notice this discussion will be closed. --The Black Godzilla of Darkness 11:58, March 22, 2016 (UTC)

Black Dragon to Acnologia

I think that it's pretty obvious that the Black Dragon is really Acnologia (or is it just a coincidence that a Black Dragon arrived at Tenrou Island the same time that Zeref senses the approach of Acnologia?). I propose that we rename the page to Acnologia or do you guys want to wait for the next few chapters?  CenonTalk  08:19, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

It's speculation that that is the black dragon, it's speculation that it even is a dragon. Bickslow DollRelikz Talk 12:19, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

If Acnologia is the black dragon, Zeref probably is his dragon slayer (remember the sharp canines)... --Bogota X 14:11, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Probably, but right now it's speculation. Bickslow DollRelikz Talk 14:13, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Image

Mind adding a good burger image as profile? Bickslow DollRelikz Talk 12:35, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

I'll add it now. I'll be unlocking the page in a few minutes though.  Iam...JakuhōRaikōben  12:36,9/25/2011 

Yay! Because the problem only would've been if the chapter came out at night while we were sleeping. Bickslow DollRelikz Talk 12:37, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Done, and yep. Since we're both on we can handle any problem if one arises.  Iam...JakuhōRaikōben  12:39,9/25/2011 

Name

Okay, I understand there are two "Acnologia" things in this series. But can we please just give the title "Acnologia" to the dragon and name the spell "Acnologia (spell)" because seriously, typing "Acnologia (Dragon)|Acnologia" is going to get pretty annoying real fast. --Shock Dragoon 19:15, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

We are currently working on renaming the spell a good burger. Bickslow DollRelikz Talk 20:00, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Gender

I just noticed that Acnologia is listed as male. When was it's gender ever confirmed? NoNickNeeded (talk) 17:22, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Try chapter 301. "Amongst them, there was a man who bathed in the blood of dragons. The mere mention of his name is terror itself." Then it goes on to say this man named Acnologia was turned into a great black dragon who called himself The Dragon King.
WrathRogue ChibiZero 17:33, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
Yep, that text bubble starts with the kanji for Otoko (man) in the raw. Thanks for the help.
Should we add the reference (Chapter 301, page 13) to the gender in the infobox? NoNickNeeded (talk) 19:09, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
You're free to add it
:Umnei:Juvia'sPictureForUmneiSignature 19:15, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
On my first try, the symbol was replaced by the pure text. The 2nd try made a GIANT male symbol, giant as in a good 600 pixels or so and in the third try, there were suddenly three symbols, each with the reference.... I think I'll leave this one to the more experienced people. NoNickNeeded (talk) 19:36, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
It's not about experience, it's just that adding the ref tag interferes with the template. If anyone is curious about where his gender is stated, they can just read this talk page or go back and actually read the manga.
WrathRogue ChibiZero 19:41, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Etymology

Should we add an Etymology section, especially for this guy's page? If so, I'd like to make my suggestion for his name's break down. In this case, Acnologia's name can be romanized from its Katakana as Akunorogia, which can be converted to Aku no Rogia. Rogia, because of the interchangeability of 'L's and 'R's in the japanese language, can be converted to 'Logia'. The word "Logia" is a Greek word from New Testament scholarship that translates roughly as "sayings, utterances, oracles", at least that's what the One Piece wiki says on it's page about Logia fruit. Aku translates from Japanese as Evil or Wickedness.

Since 'No' is a particle denoting ownership, a rough, multilingual translation of Aku no Logia could be "Utterances of Evil", quite fitting given the subject at hand.--Rui Usagi (talk) 16:51, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

Lol that's quite ineteresting, but we do not include that kind of information on the article pages. The only times we include where character names come from is when they are given by Mashima himself or when they come from direct references to something else (ex. Minerva and Bacchus) Bickslow Doll Bickslow Doll3Bickslow Doll 2 16:59, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

Effect on Dragon Slayers

Should we note Acnologia's effect on Dragon Slayers? I mean, all of them do clutch their chests in pain and have a massive increased heartbeat, unlike everyone else. Kamikaze839 23:01, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Not yet, we aren't sure it was Acnologia himself that was the cause, especially since the same didn't occur to Natsu, Wendy and Gajeel on Tenrou Island. Considering what we learned about Igneel in CHapter 400, it's likely related to the other Dragons.--Eternal-Era-Twilight (talk) 23:16, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Definitely seems to be coming from the dragons inside them, not from Acnologia -- God · Pray · 23:20, September 16, 2014 (UTC) 

But what of Sting and Rogue, who killed their dragons? Kamikaze839 23:34, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Harder to answer for that, but it's likely they were reacting to Igneel as other than Natsu none of the other Dragon Slayers have ever been around him. Its either that, or Sting and Rogue's dragons aren't as dead as we thought they were. Regardless unless its stated that Acnologia was the cause of the Slayers needing to clutch their chests we can't add it. We can't just add speculation to the pages, unless there's actual proof as a reference we can't add it to a page.--Eternal-Era-Twilight (talk) 00:44, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

Mastodonic Dragon?

What is a "mastodonic dragon"? Arawn 999 (talk) 07:00, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Google is an amazing thing. It gives such nice results. ☆°・*CarrotSays...*・°☆ 07:06, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

OK... I googled "Mastodonic Dragon" and all I got was Acnologia and a ripoff on the Naruto fan wiki that cut-and-paste from this wiki. That said, isn't calling him gargantuan and mastodonic a little redundant? Arawn 999 (talk)
Well, tautology can sometimes be pleasing to the eyes, and this is quite trivial. Not much to be bothered about. --Sane Lunatic (talk) 07:11, November 3, 2014 (UTC)
Ah, yeah it's no good to do that :P It is a little redundant, but I personally don't mind. If it irks you though feel free to remove it~ ☆°・*CarrotSays...*・°☆ 07:14, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Remove the sentence saying Acnologia can't use Dragon Slayer Magic anymore

Acnologia is stated to have lost his Dragon Slayer Magic when he became a dragon, however all of the dragon parents of the 1st Gen and 3rd Gen Dragon Slayers are stated to use Dragon Slayer magic and they were born as dragons. Also when I looked at the reference that states Acnologia lost his ability to use Dragon Slayer magic I didn't see any mention that he lost the ability to use it, and the Dragons themselves were inside their children to make antibodies that would keep them from turning into dragons.

So its likely Zeref didn't have any involvement in turning Acnologia into a Dragon and he transformed simply as the result of his constant slaying as Zirconis had mentioned before, as a result I think we should remove the "Nonetheless, however, Acnologia lost the ability to perform Dragon Slayer Magic." sentence from his magic and abilities section as now it seems quite likely that he can still use it.--Sky-Dragoon-Twilight (talk) 03:52, January 15, 2015 (UTC)

I agree. I don't remember it ever being mentioned that he can't use it. Him not using it on screen is by no means any kind of proof either. NoNickNeeded (talk) 08:34, January 15, 2015 (UTC)

I see no reason why Acnologia cannot employ dragon slaying magic anymore. Dragon Slaying Magic was originally a skill exclusive to the dragons that had to be taught to the humans. Acnologia turned into a dragon as a result of his dragon slaying magic. Furthermore, the language Acnologia used when saying he will kill Igneel was that he would "dragon-slay" him.(Ergo Logos (talk) 12:02, January 15, 2015 (UTC))

You're right. I have looked through the chapters regarding Acnologia several different times, and never was it said that he lost the ability to perform Dragon Slaying Magic. I will put it in the proper section.
WrathRogue ChibiZero 14:42, January 15, 2015 (UTC)

Immune to Dragon supremacy Magic

As Future!Rouge says, his magic can controls dragons other than Acnologia that are unaffected, he is unaffected because (if exact words applies) he isn't a dragon but yes a human that is the ultimate example of Trans-human Treachery (gains abnormal powers, backstabs own specie). So this isn't should by a important piece of trivia, "He ins't affected for begin a human in dragon form instead a true dragon". (Ins't speculation for my part. Actually is very obvious). --Dragonempeorslayer (talk) 20:17, January 23, 2016 (UTC)

Check out Magic and Abilities section. Manipulation Immunity basically covers everything you just said. :P DispellingJellal chibiMage20:18,1/23/2016

Umm I rushed....Anyway, unless explicitly confirmed, it's a speculation. That's all from me. :P DispellingJellal chibiMage20:23,1/23/2016
Again, is stated the he is unaffected by dragon supremacy magic. But is never stated that he in unaffected by any form of control. So is very probable that he can be affected by some form of mind control except that control specifically dragons, since is never explicitly stated in any source (unless that i have missed some lost word in the page that Rouge says that he ins't affected) i sure that he says that magic instead of any. Also re-reads the main page I sure that is "According to Future Rogue, Acnologia is immune to Dragon Supremacy Magic." So its covers only that magic and don't states others. Again i says because is very oblivious the reason, Dragon supremacy control dragons, Acnologia is a human in dragon form, so do the math. --Dragonempeorslayer (talk) 20:51, January 23, 2016 (UTC)
I didn't quite understand you, but let's try to make this clear. Yes, he can't be controlled by Dragon Supremacy Magic and yes, he can probably be controlled by any other form of Manipulation Magic. However, that assumption is not proven in any chapter (as far as I know; in case it's otherwise, feel free to correct me), regardless if it's logical or not, thus can't be added. Basically, we only add info that's displayed in the story, not what could be very likely to occur or be. I hope that's the answer you wanted. If not, please try to be as clear as possible so I can respond to your request properly. Thank you! :)
DispellingJellal chibiMage23:11,1/23/2016

Immense Magical power

Acnologia and Igneel both should have immense magical power. The Wizard Saints and Spriggans all sensed Acnologia's power, and deemed it to be powerful. Igneel is pretty much Acnologia's equal, and his power is obviously immense given that it was what Natsu used against Zeref. Ergo Logos (talk) 05:48, January 27, 2016 (UTC)

We can't list anything that hasnt been shown. Does Igneel likely have Immense Magic Power? Yes. Has he shown it? No. Acnologia, you could possibly make a case for with this latest chapter but its still iffy-- God · Pray · 06:17,1/27/2016 
Dude your dumb it was clearly stated that in chapter 470 by the members of the wizards saints and spriggan 12 that before acnologia revealed himself when the dust cleared that they sensed an overwhelming magic. (Chrispeake4 (talk) 21:55, January 30, 2016 (UTC))
I agree with da othrerz... it wasx clear as hell they all felt his magic power, da hell u tlaking about Godisme? 73.173.42.152 21:56, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

He's talking about Igneel. He did not say anything about Acnologia not having immense magic power. There is no evidence for Igneel whatsoever.
WrathRogue ChibiZero 02:36, February 3, 2016 (UTC)

Hair

In the manga, Acnologia's hair color is Dark Blue, but they might change it to a different color in the anime to Grey/White. Could someone put down in parentheses manga right next to Dark Blue? --The Black Godzilla of Darkness 13:18, April 4, 2016 (UTC)

Speed

Isn't Acnologia supposed to have Enhanced Speed in his Dragon form? I mean as a human, he can run incredibly fast, but as a Dragon, according to what I've heard of in the manga, isn't he supposed to at least fly at superhuman speed since he defeated Glidarts in the blink of an eye with his draconic speed alone. --Canine-of-change (talk) 14:42, June 4, 2016 (UTC)

Irene's son?

Chapter 524's first halves before the scene skips to Natsu vs. Zeref.

Okay, this is too much twisted & confusing around the Fairy Tail story. -- --ScottKazama (talk) 09:23, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

It was meant metaphorically, not literally. Irene didn't give birth to Acnologia, but she was the one who came up with the method of making him what he is today. It was made quite clear that Erza was Irene's only actual child. NoNickNeeded (talk) 08:24, February 26, 2017 (UTC)

That was referring to the whole "Mother of dragon slayers" thing. Miskos3 Message 09:23, February 26, 2017 (UTC)

Miskos explains it correctly. Eileen created the magic in order to help the dragons in the civil war and was referred to as the Dragon Queen (竜の女王 Ryū no Joō) --The Black Godzilla of Darkness 23:00, February 26, 2017 (UTC)

Major spoiler on this page! Everyone can see his human form now!

Alias and Magic

Due to the recent chapter, we now have a much better view and insight into Acnologia's magic. So someone should the alias, The Demon Dragon Acnologia, and also update his magic as he has no certain attribute that decides what element he eats, as he seems to be able to eat all evil and all magic, or even both, as said in the manga. Also, I would like to update his quote to: "I'm the final dragon... The death dragon that devours all magic." since it seems more befitting for his personality at this moment. The Raven Queen(Into the Night) 21:19, March 28, 2017 (UTC)

Eternal Flare translation

I was wondering if this could be a proper translation for Eternal Flare (永遠炎 Eien Honō).-- The Black Godzilla of Darkness (talk) 23:15, June 10, 2017 (UTC)

Probably not, the raws used the literal Japanese (katakana I believe?) for "Eternal Flare" (Etaanaru Furea) Red Riding Hood赤いず乗りきん頭巾 (Speaketh) 20:39, June 25, 2017 (UTC)

Ah, that makes sense. 15:35, June 26, 2017 (UTC)

Which probably means the attack wasn't even elemental. Furthermore, it's probably a reference to Final Fantasy's Bahamut: Tera Flare, the attacks even look similar. Fitting since Bahamut is the only summon in FF which doesn't have an "element". Throughout the series, Bahamut is also classified as "more than a Dragon". Red Riding Hood赤いず乗りきん頭巾 (Speaketh) 12:47, June 30, 2017 (UTC)

Page Update

I thinks its time to update Acnologia's page since there is a lot of information missing.(Kingdevo215 (talk) 06:24, June 19, 2017 (UTC))

Enhanced Durability in human form.

Shouldn't there be an edit added to the page where he has enhanced durability in his human form? He was able to shrug off blows from both Gajeel and Laxus without taking a single scratch. Heck, even after well... that would be a spoiler so I won't. --TheImmortalOne35 (talk) 18:01, July 15, 2017 (UTC)TheImmortalOne35

Nutrition

1. is able to consume any type of Magic element and/or "evil" aura to replenish himself. This needs elaboration. Can he replenish himself eating a plant created by plant magic or space or time (or is space between time exception)?

it actually doesn't change much, because it's the same thing as with sky ds/gs magic - air is everywhere.

2. Isn't Space Between Time space magic and not time magic. I mean he controls a dimension. Rizgubi (talk) 21:16, November 27, 2017 (UTC)

I'd have to agree with him on number 2. Shouldn't it be spatial magic? It doesn't make sense. --SoulRise99 (talk) 18:11, November 27, 2017 (UTC)

1. According to the manga he can eat all kinds of magic, expanding on that would be speculation unless it was mentioned in the manga or expanded in the 2018 anime.

2. Space and time tends to be related as a concept but in the fairy tail manga the Space Between Time is more associated with time since its a crack or a gap through time caused by the dragon slayers traveling from the past, i think the dimension itself is just like a tunnel through time & acnologia did not create it just became one with it thats why his human version is in it while his dragon version is in the real world kinda like how ultear's younger self is in the distortions in time and was able to help fight dimaria while her old body is somewhere else, so its still time related but maybe if we wait for the 2018 anime it will also be expanded upon. LightningGeistLaxus Chibi 02:32, November 28, 2017 (UTC)

Transformation Magic or Shape-shifting

Hey, i was just reading through the magic section of Acnologia, and I was wondering what is the difference between the Transformation magic of a dragon like Ignia and Mercuphobia (human to dragon or vice versa) and the Shape-shifting of a Dragon Slayer I know that one obviously comes from a dragon itself and one is from Dragon Slayers, but they both have the exact properties.

This is also not part of Acnologia but he has like Flight as part of his abilities while the 2 new dragons does not have the ability written on their respective pages. Tonyojimbo (talk) 10:38, March 11, 2019 (UTC)

Shapeshifting was added to acnologia's page due to him being a human that gained a dragon form and he can freely revert back to his human form at will due to being a dragon slayer.

On the other hand Ignia and Mercuphobia's transformation magic was added to differentiate it from acnologia's ability since they were never humans and dragon slayers. At best they are more similar to carla who is also not a human but an exceed and she gained a humanoid form thanks to transformation magic.

Based on the official sources it was never mentioned that dragons can change into a human form at will or it is part of a dragons natural ability. Igneel and the rest of the dragons never showed this ability and never did they say they can do it but it was shown that dragons can use magic. Since the sequal manga introduced the five dragon gods, we don't know much about them yet but all we know is that they are dragons that are considered gods and has human forms, whether their human forms are a part of being a dragon god or just something they learned is yet to be proven or disproven by the manga so all we can do is wait for now but once it is brought up and clarified in the manga then the information will be updated.

As for ignia and mercuphobia not having flight in their pages, i believe it was something that was forgotten to be added but thanks for bringing it up as we will add it to their respective pages asap. LightningGeistLaxus Chibi 11:23, March 11, 2019 (UTC)

Sky or Healing Magic?

I know that Sky Magic is usually associated with healing since both Sky Dragon and God Slayers can use a healing spell, but it sometimes confuses me as to whether or not it actually applies to Acnologia.

Is there an actual difference between the two? Or does it make more sense as to having it as Sky Magic utilizing a healing spell?

Thank you for the confusion! —-SoulRise99User-SoulRise99(2) 21:45, September 16, 2019 (UTC)

Keep in mind the healing thing only happened in the anime, and it also happened the past before acnologia became a dragon slayer, so him healing a dragon has no proof that it has anything to do with sky magic or dragon or god slaying magic since he was never a god slayer and he hasn't been a dragon slayer yet. At best he is just a doctor from 400+ years ago who can heal.LightningGeistLaxus Chibi 02:00, September 17, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah just because there are some healing magic, doesnt mean its dragon slayer or god slayer magic Tonyojimbo (talk) 03:52, September 17, 2019 (UTC)

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