I was thinking about chapter 499 and how Juvia survived enough blood loss to kill Gray. Does that count as an endurance feat? Why or why not? And if it is, should someone add it to her page?
I was thinking about chapter 499 and how Juvia survived enough blood loss to kill Gray. Does that count as an endurance feat? Why or why not? And if it is, should someone add it to her page?
It doesnt count as an endurance feat since it only happened once, throughout the series juvia has been known to not receive and endure every damage against her since by default she relies on her water body to not be hurt.
It's more like juvia survived the blood loss because she's lucky or because shes the love interest of gray especially when gray's fight against invel didn't even last that long and juvia just pass out after giving blood to gray and eventually recovered after being healed by wendy so her passing out doesn't even show that she endured it all on her own.
Characters considered to have great endurances are those characters that has been shown to endure multiple situations throughout the fairy tail series. An example of characters that have been proven to able to endure a lot of things and not just because of blood loss are Jellal, Erza, Laxus, Mirajane and many more.
But it still happened. Juvia lost enough blood to kill Gray. And she survived. That sounds like an endurance feat to me. True Wendy did heal her, but Juvia still survived long enough for Wendy to find her. Carla also said if they found her a couple minutes later her life would be in danger.
It did happen but like i said it happened once so its speculation to say that it is because of of her endurance and not because of any other reasons such as luck, even the official raws never mentioned that she endured it all on her own, carla said if they found her a little later her life would be in danger meaning she wasn't even enduring it that greatly and was just lucky that they were able to arrive & heal her.
Endurance is mainly associated with the ability to remain active for a long period of time, as well as its ability to resist, withstand, recover from, and have immunity to trauma, wounds, or fatigue but as you've seen it's the opposite on what happened to her since she wasn't able to endure the effects of her blood loss since she literally passed out right after and was eventually healed by wendy, the opposite of being active despite the wounds and fatigue.
Even in real life, endurance tests are used to measure how the body was able to actively do physical challenges for an extended period of time, something that did not happen to juvia since her body shut down to the point that gray believed she actually died since he's begging for her to open her eyes which she cant even do unless she is unconscious and not actually enduring it all on her own.
It doesn't matter if it happened once it still happened. And your not getting it, she survived something that killed Gray. How is that not an endurance feat? Seriously Gray died from his blood loss and Juvia lost even more, so it's definitely an endurance feat.
And what do you mean she never endured it all on her own? She most certainly did.
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It's not an endurance feat. Endurance is based on pushing oneself like resisting, withstand, tolerate, etc. a very difficult situation brought on to them. She couldn't even do the basics such as speak, twitch, or open her eyes when Gray wanted her to do so that he actually thought she died. And the fact Carla said she wouldn't had made it in just a few moments later shows how she wasn't enduring the blood loss very well. Juvia even thought she died. Like LightningGeist said, it was just luck that she actually survived the blood loss until the time had came for her to actually die.
Juvia still survived a very very difficult situation while unconscious. Juvia lost more blood than Gray, and Gray died from his blood loss. And saying it was luck is a cop out. If we going to allow all the plot armored crap Erza does, then this counts. Also you don't get lucky from blood loss. Juvia withstood dying while unconscious.
Regardless of how we may feel about Erza's plot armor, it did made her display a lot of endurance feats because she actually resisted and tolerated the amount of serious wounds, exhaustion, and fatigue that she has received and was able push herself to come through the serious challenges she done went up against. Something that Juvia never shown in her situation. She wasn't active to push herself with her blood loss for anything at all. If she actually made it without the need of Carla and Wendy while facing a serious challenge during and/or after then it would be impressive. But that's not how that went as Carla stated. She just passed out to soon die in just a few moments. Her survival was based on luck solely from Carla's premonition that saw her demise at an earlier time to show up before it was too late, and Wendy's healing. Juvia knows this and looked confused of the fact that she was even alive, and even praised them for helping her. Shows more that she wasn't resisting and withstanding the effects of what's coming to her. That's not her trying to push herself to survive, that's her dying until some miracle comes along. It's the exact same as a real world situation where people don't be having much time to live and only had few moments prior to be alive until then. Only exceptional difference is there not being a magic healer to stop it. True tea from Mashima is that she actually was suppose to die. But changed his mind soon afterwards just for Gray's feelings. So instead had involved Wendy and Carla to stop it which again, has nothing to do with her endurance.