Talk:Star Dress

Forms own page
Do you guys feels as if the forms should have a page as well and up on the Star Dress is a picture and link of them like Erza's armors?76.3.76.211 03:57, October 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Um you guys?76.3.76.211 15:11, October 18, 2015 (UTC)

But Star Dress itself is a spell, and these would be like, the spell of a spell? Spellception? No thank you. Each form is described here rather perfectly. There isn't much information to go off of anyway. The pages would be really brief. :/ 15:15, October 18, 2015 (UTC)


 * Then explain about the Strauss Siblings though, their forms is a spell of a spell like Animal Soul: Cat, Bird, Rabbit, Beast Soul: Lizardman, Weretiger, and Satan Soul: Sitri, Halphas, and Mirajane Seilah. In fact its more of a spell of a spell of a spell, if you include Take-Over, same for Erza. Also some of Erza's armors pages don't have much information and is really brief too on its appearance and a little of its abilities; some don't really even have info on its abilities like her Purgatory Armor but only said to be her most powerful armor, nothing else. If that's the case, all her armors and info should be in her The Knight page instead of separates of them and same for the Strauss siblings forms for whatever souls they specialize.76.3.72.103 14:42, October 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * Animal Soul, etc. are Magic. Erza's armours are Magic Items. Star Dress is considered a Spell. --Sane Lunatic (talk) 14:43, October 19, 2015 (UTC)


 * That's also the parent of the forms like Natsu's Fire Dragon roar to Lightning Fire Dragon Roar which of course is a spell of a spell76.3.72.103 15:59, October 19, 2015 (UTC)

So... that brings me to something... Why isn't Star Dress a Magic? 14:59, October 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * good point, to look at it both ways it's spell used by lucy piercing herself with a key but on the other hand it has it's on magical attributes  Ncduru Ravens wallpaper (2).jpg 15:31,10/19/2015


 * Exactly what I mean.76.3.72.103 15:56, October 19, 2015 (UTC)

That is a really good point. Star Dress is like Re-Quip and the forms is like the armors which its parent ability is Star Dress that each of them contain its own attributes like the armors.Starpower98 (talk) 21:57, October 20, 2015 (UTC)

True, but on the other hand, the Star Dresses are heavily connected to their "parent spirit", which means we have three options there: NoNickNeeded (talk) 22:04, October 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) Keep it all in the Star Dress article - which might become a bit long and image heavy as time goes on.
 * 2) Make seperate pages for each Dress - which would mean a lot of pages with very little content.
 * 3) Add the section about the Star Dress to the Parent Spirit's article, or the article of the key - which isn't the most intuitive way.
 * Wow, all 3 seem so...difficult to think about considering the cons mentioned. Well about option 2, content meaning information?Starpower98 (talk) 22:19, October 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes. Right now each Dress has just a single paragraph. While this could probably be extended by making seperate appearance and ability sections, it'd still be quite short articles. NoNickNeeded (talk) 22:34, October 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Her Sagittarius form comes with a bow and Taurus with a whip, those can have an equipment section. And there can be a description section like for example: Is a Star Dress form that allows Lucy to adopt the appearance, abilities, and powers of Loke by incorporate the power of Loke into her body with the Gate of the Lion Key to her chest. Then so forth with its appearance, abilities, and equipment (if form comes with one) sections. And besides that, not sure if that matters when like the anon stated, some of Erza's armors have quite short articles as well.Starpower98 (talk) 23:24, October 20, 2015 (UTC)

Look guys, let's not over-complicate things here. One really high quality page that lists all the parts of every star dress and describes them, along with their functions, accurately and accordingly, or a bunch of page with all the information we have here, but scattered extremely scantily across several sections. You do the math on which one is better. 23:33, October 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * okStarpower98 (talk) 23:37, October 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Now that I think about it, in the Star Dress article can be a image of the forms and a link right under it to the forms like Erza's armors have in The Knight article.Starpower98 (talk) 23:50, October 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Aware of how to format the hypothetical article, but I don't see the need to throw them all into separate pages when all the information is described accurately and almost completely full right here. They are not magic items like Erza's armor, they are not the result of a transformation magic like Satan Soul, it is just ultimately one spell, which is Star Dress. It is put into sections and linked to appropriately, plus there is a gallery at the bottom to show every Star Dress. It's literally fine. 23:52, October 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh ok. Just a thought is all.Starpower98 (talk) 23:57, October 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Just so you know, it's not like I don't appreciate the thought you're putting into this. The query is legitimate and the stuff you're proposing is fine, I just firmly believe that having one superior high quality page is better than having a bunch of basically 'filler pages' for the wiki. Redirects can be made to each individual section and they can be expanded at will (TOC needs to be altered as well, pretty soon), and that's my solution for this. 00:00, October 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh I know. ^ ^Starpower98 (talk) 00:01, October 21, 2015 (UTC)

I actually believe the pages should be separated. Firstly, length is not an issue here. Each of these star dresses has more than enough info for a good page. And separate pages would allow them to be fleshed out more anyway. Secondly, this page looks beyond tacky. It's long, awkwardly formatted, and if we separated it, we wouldn't have to have that hideous gallery that's currently at the bottom of this page. >_> I'm just really not seeing the need of keeping them all together here. :/ 04:36,10/21/2015
 * Yeah I agree especially the tacky part and the way that gallery looks...:/76.3.72.103 17:08, October 21, 2015 (UTC)

For us to be consistent, either Lucy's Star Dresses should have their own page each, or Erza's Armors should be listed under the same Requip page, as they are both Magics that produce forms that function very similarly (Erza producing Magic Items, Lucy wearing CS outfits). While the former may be easier, I think the latter would make for an nice challenge. You know how we have those tabs for the Magazine and such? what if we implemented a system like that for Star Dress and Requip? *enters lala land* ^^ 17:24, October 21, 2015 (UTC)

I'm with Rai on this one. Let's just make separated pages for them 17:36, October 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * So its settled?76.3.72.103 18:13, October 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm with what y'all saying... star dress is pretty much Erza's armors so they should all have separate page, only to be consistent  Ncduru Ravens wallpaper (2).jpg 01:15,10/22/2015
 * So majority says that it should, so its really settled then?76.3.72.103 19:43, October 22, 2015 (UTC)

I don't have any problems with having separate pages. That way, at least people who wanna gaze at the glory (and derp T_T) that is the Sagittarius Form won't have to look at the other hideous atrocities.

That said, comparing the different forms of the Star Dress and Erza's armours is ridiculous. Star Dress is one item with different forms. Erza's armours have no relation to each other except for the fact that they are armours owned by Erza. Saying that Star Dress should be treated like Erza's armours for the sake of consistency makes no sense.

Oh, and if this discussion is also about Star Dress being a Magic, then I Vehemently Oppose that part. Star Dress is not a Magic. :/ --Sane Lunatic (talk) 19:56, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * No, Star Dress is a spell, the forms are different items based on its parent ability just like Erza's armors are the same to the type of requip she specialize in (The Knight), not to each other. And I don't understand why it wouldn't make sense since even in the manga it was treated like so. :/76.3.72.103 20:31, October 22, 2015 (UTC)

I really don't know. On the one hand, I agree with Wrath. We shouldn't overcomplicate things, as the descriptions used right now seem okay. On the other hand, it'd also make sense if we compare it to Erza's armors and because other forms are starting to accumulate in one article. Thus, this vote. ( ._.)

Own Page
Each Star Dress get's its own article.


 * 1) NoNickNeeded (talk) 19:52, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * 2) 76.3.72.103 20:17, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * 3)  20:18, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
 * 4) Meh, I guess I'm convinced. Would've partcicipated in the discussion initially, had it not been for the fact that I'm not particularly interested in the Celestial Spirits, oh and I despise Lucy.

All in one
All the Star Dresses are listed within the "Star Dress" article, as it is now.

Adding to Celestial Spirit Page
Star Dresses are added to the article of the Celestial Spirit from whom the power comes.