Fairy Tail Wiki talk:Grammar Guild

Joining
Sounds really good, welcome to the Grammar Guild Onion! I'll add your name to the list of members ;)

-- 14:02, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

Joining
There are some mistakes there, but still I think you passed... Welcome to the Guild, I'll add your name to the list!

-- 14:03, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

Job Requests
Hi Darinor, how many job requests can we take at one time? All of us wanted to know so I came to ask you about it. 08:59, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

"Sigh" Guess you don't have a given limit of Jobs, especially seeing as the Guild hasn't existed for even a day and yet some of you guys managed to complete several requests... :P

I think the only limits you could impose yourselves should come from common sense. I'd advise you not to get overloaded with requests for both a matter of stress and to show respect for fellow guildmates who could be interested in jobs you might have taken for yourselves, but might not currently be handling. It depends on you, I don't have any special limit I'd like to set. If you think you can handle tons of work and greatly improve grammar around here... Then please do ;)

Your Master.

...

Hell.

Think that only works for Ishthak... :P

-- 14:12, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

There we go...
Alright guys, we made it. The Grammar Guild is, at last, up. I've heard that many of you were eager for such a guild to exist... And now it exists. Guess that's a nice starting point.

Fine, first of all I'd like to welcome you all, and thank you for choosing to give this newborn project a try. So, WELCOME AND THANK YOU FOLKS! OTA, SPEED BOATS FOR EVERYONE! =D

For those of you who might not know or were too stupid to actually read the names in the members' list xD, I'm your Guild Master, Aldarinor. Feel free to call me DaRinor, Al, Ald, Pops, Oyaji, Thunder God or simply Master xD

I'd like the atmosphere in our group to be a cosy and relaxed one. Feel no urge to finish your jobs in a hurry, don't overdo it, and don't get yourselves stressed over grammar. Take all the time you need to do what you're doing. If you want a job to be added to the list, simply leave me a message, and we'll be free to discuss how much Jewels should the given job be worthy. All the jobs you do will be checked and will grant you the settled amount of Jewels... If the tasks you complete aren't checked as soon as I'm around the site, just remember that I'm a mere human being like you guys (did I just make a gaffe by saying that you're all humans or I'm fine? :P)! Don't worry, all the jobs you handle will eventually be examined, and your efforts rewarded! ;)

If issues or important decisions to be taken were to show up, I'd like to avoid settling them myself as the Master, instead making use of community votations to settle things. We're a guild, aftr all. All of you guys have the same rights... Though particularly capable writers who were to prove their worth might aspire to the élite title of S-Class Mage. I'm afraid it won't be possible for EVERYONE to make it to such rank, since a guild can't be composed exclusively of S-Class Mages... Still, I might entrust the decision to you, making you guys vote which users you'd like to be recognized for their achievements. Know, however, that élite Mages won't have significant special privileges, and, in turn, will be harrassed and overworked by the undersigned...

Just kidding xD

...

... Or not? xD

Anyhow, as for you guys, remember to stand tall, since we're currently the most populated Guild on the entire site... The day of our fondation. Hell yeah, that's the way! You are Mages of the Grammar Guild, the Shadowy Checkers, Unseen Commandos who make the site better with simple, non-flashy edits...

... To make it short, you're the Aldarinor Pirates (アルダリノル海賊団 Arudarinoru Kaizokudan)! =D

...

Yes, that's it. Remember that if the first three nicknames are debatable, the fourth ISN'T!

Let's go, guys!

-- 18:56, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your words Aldarinor. Very inspiring... More like Aldarinor pirates 19:57, May 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * What are you doing on my Guild's page?! Get the fuck out! >.<


 * -- 21:02, May 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's called an invasion XD 21:13, May 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * An invasion??? O_o


 * -- 21:22, May 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * XD 21:29, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

Did Carrot just possess DaRinor?


 * Nah, Carrot was just one of the dozens of people giving no response... :P


 * -- 14:45, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

... None of my loyal followers answered such post??? Hell, I've changed my mind, you guys suck... :P

-- 14:44, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

Hahaha XD Here, I comment. Thanks for being a cool, good and fair master to us? (i saw some words...), Master Aldee! (Aldee's a cute name XD) ^_^ 16:08, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

I'm present too, Pops Master! :)  16:12, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

Support!! 22:01,5/11/2012

I....I... I didn't even know I was in the GG... Why nobody told me? T^T I'm going to work hard Master Darinor !!

Joining
I found some mistakes in your introduction... Would you mind giving it another try? :P

-- 14:47, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

Opppssss..... I'm sorry... I found it too -_- I'll apply again

Joinning
The description looks fine, but is a bit too short and basic as far as grammar goes... Would you mind writing a longer and more articulated one? :P

-- 14:48, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

... Care to post it in a readable format? :P

-- 14:51, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

Joining
ps. Sorry about that! Jrpaqs 15:04, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to the Grammar Guild! I'll add your name to the list of members ;)

-- 15:24, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

J-o-i-n-i-n-g
"Why do we have to introduce yourselves?"? Simply to show me your grammar skills. Besides, the question clearly states that, if you're not comfortable revealing senstitive information about yourself, you can invent whatever you want, as long as grammar is good. You should expand that 7th question and make it more articulated if you want to be admitted to the guild.

-- 07:42, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Join
There are a pair of minor mistakes there, but I like your grammar. Congratulations, you're in! Welcome to the Grammar Guild, I'll add your name to the list of members ;)

-- 18:38, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

Joining
Just like I said above, there are some mistakes here, but your grammar looks good nonetheless. Congratulations, welcome to the Grammar Guild! I'll add your name to the list ;)

-- 18:40, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

EEEEEEEEEEEEEkkkkkkk!!! Thank you very much!!!

Lucy Heartfilia Page
Master, I'm almost done with Lucy's page but I can't complete it because the Key of the Starry Sky arc is empty. I haven't watched that part of the anime yet so I can't update it. (_ _) D'you think anyone can help me? 06:47, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

Sure thing! Guess you could ask for Ota's help, since she follows EXCLUSIVELY the anime and writes reviews about the episodes every week... If Ota was busy (something which sadly enough seems to be the case recently, poor gal... School's a burden for everyone 'round here :P), you might ask Carrot... And if Carrot was busy or didn't want to, well, think I could try and help you out myself... ;)

-- 13:27, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

Got it. Carrot can help me out! :)  12:58, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

It's settled then! ;)

-- 13:34, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

Guild Application
Very nice performace, Titania! Congratulations, you're in! Welcome to the Grammar Guild, I'll find you a place in our list of members =)

As for the Policies, you can easily check them out here. If you need more help, feel free to leave a message on my Talk Page ;)

-- 13:30, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

Hey...
hey master darinor can u put in more jobs.

I've added several jobs to the list, though I'd rather have you guys ask me to add a GIVEN job you'd like to handle and to suggest the amount of rewarded Jewels for it...

-- 14:28, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

Joining
Nice grammar my friend, just a minor mistake (or maybe it's me... :P). Congratulations, welcome to the Grammar Guild! I'll give you a place in our list ;)

-- 13:36, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

Take note:New application!
This is my application form......

That looks good, but could you expand the seventh question a bit, to show us what you can do? :P

-- 15:32, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

I want to see how good your grammar is, and I can't do it if you write just three lines... :S

-- 16:22, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

Nice, that's the way! Congratulations, you made it, welcome to the Grammar Guild! I'll add your name to the list of members ;)

-- 16:50, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

Take note: Request
Hello Master Aldarinor, could you please add some jobs on the request board, as I can't find any vacant jobs available? Thank you.

From: Laven Heartfilla

Is there any particular job you'd like to have? If yes, how much would you want for it?

-- 17:14, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe...... Jellal Fernandes? Or something that is suitable for new mages? Jewels......you may decide the amount according to my job. Thanks for replying......

From: Laven Heartfilla

... Jellal's already on the board, and, most importantly, has already been taken by Carrot... -.-

-- 19:28, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Then, Master can just put any job there as long as it is vacant....... --Laven 01:52, May 19, 2012 (UTC)

I'm the one supposed to place them there, given that I have to add Jewels... But if you guys want to place jobs yourselves WITHOUT adding the amount of Jewels and then discuss it with me, then I think you can proceed.

-- 07:33, May 19, 2012 (UTC)

I'm starting to think some candidates answer questions without actually reading them... Let's examine the seventh question together, shall we?

"And now, time to show off some grammar. Tell us something about yourself in five sentences. If you don't feel at ease by revealing personal information to strangers living in the other part of the world, feel free to invent something fictional. What you tell us doesn't have to make sense. Just be gramatically correct!"

The highlighted parts are pretty clear: you do not have to share personal information with us, just invent! The purpose of this seventh question is to show us the level of your grammar! The answer needs to be long, articulated and gramatically correct. If it doesn't meet the requirements (like the one line-long one you just came up with), then you can't be admitted. It's as simple as that. If you want to have a chance and join the Grammar Guild, you'll have to expand it.

Since I'm at it, a message to all and every candidate who were to apply in the future: READ THE QUESTIONS -.-"

Thanks.

-- 15:27, May 19, 2012 (UTC)

My NEW Application
Now it's WAY better, but... Could you expand it a little bit more? Don't care if you say that you come from Mars or you're Bill Gates, you just have to make it a little bit longer and articulated... :P

-- 11:49, May 20, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, I must say that I'm REALLY satisfied with the length. It doesn't matter whether it's a story, the important thing is that it's something you wrote, so I'm pleased. Point is, there were some grammatical mistakes there... Too many, according to those who keep saying that I should be stricter when accepting recruits. Sorry Blah, but you still have ways to go before joining. I hope you won't take this as an insult or a personal offense, and I'd be glad to welcome you in the Guild if you took some time to improve grammar a little bit and then came back ;)

-- 15:13, May 25, 2012 (UTC)

Take note: No job Available!!!!!
To: Master

Please add Juvia Lockser as a job in the request board ..... Thanks...... --Laven Heartfilla 16:07, May 20, 2012 (UTC)

Joining
You'll have to do more than to copy and paste stuff from Wikipedia to impress me, kiddo.

-- 13:30, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

Joining
Alright, you're in! Welcome to the Grammar Guild, I'll add your name to the list ;)

-- 14:14, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

Tenses
'Noon folks, Master speaking.

I'd like to remind/inform you guys that the tense we're supposed to be using on articles is the PRESENT, and that PAST tenses should only be placed in characters' History sections... I also employ them to a certain degree with "Personality" and "Magic and Abilities", but only if I'm recounting an instance related to what I'm describing (Random Trivia Moment :P).

So, well... Keep up the good work and remember that Present's the right time and the one which will get you candies.

-- 13:15, May 24, 2012 (UTC)

I just read this now What about the issue with the captions, Cap'n; the period, and the form of the verbs? Since our Wiki is known for it's uniformity (I think so), it should be the same for the pictures too, IMO. Should we caption with gerunds or infinitives; and should there be periods, or none? 03:28, May 29, 2012 (UTC)

I tend to use the present continuous for captions (if by captions you mean the writings placed in thumbs below pictures, that is...). An example would be this:



I do so because what the picture shows, in some way, is "always happening" due to the image's presence on the page, and thus I think it should be described as such.

The "period matter" we talked about should be discussed further though.

-- 13:34, May 29, 2012 (UTC)

Jobs
Mornin' folks.

Hope you went through the previous post regarding tenses :P

As you might have realized by yourselves, there's a huge pile of completed Jobs waiting to be checked. You guys REALLY worked hard, and I'm particularly proud of some of you (not giving names though, I'll let you think about them yourselves).

Point is, I won't be correcting those Jobs in the immediate future.

"Why?", you might be asking.

The answer is simple: because my final exams are getting nearer and nearer, and I need to pass with a mark good enough to enter the special facilities of the college I'd like to attend. Something which might take some dedication to be achieved. Here's the matter.

"What about our Jobs then? Who the fuck will be checking them? How will we know who got the Mage of the Month title, uh?". This might likely be your next question.

What to say... You guys can either wait and learn the answer in some time (and for "some time" I mean "SOME TIME", since my exams won't be finished before the first weeks of July, and then I'd like to go on holyday with my friends... Sorry if I'm human too :P) or... You can check them among you guys, by having a look at each other's work. That would likely be the best solution (for those of you who are not experiencing a situation similar to mine, that is... For those who were... Guys, it's really a pain in the ass, isn't it?). Some members, namely Ultra and Alois (yup, giving names this time) already offered me their help in checking stuff... As I said, you guys can do the same, wait SOME TIME, or stage a coup d'etat and kick me out and find yourself a Guild Master with more free time at his/her disposal.

Uff, I'm done :P

Toodles.

-- 09:05, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Joining
Looks pretty good, but you ought to make the 7th answer a bit longer ;)

-- 20:18, May 29, 2012 (UTC)

Joining
As I told many candidates before... Pretty good, but make that 7th answer LONGER! ;)

-- 15:39, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Some minor issues there, but good nonetheless. Welcome to the Guild! ;)

-- 16:13, May 31, 2012 (UTC)

Guild Issues
Salutations, my fellow Mages! I am the guild's resident evil Onion, Alois! And before any of you go bat-shat crazy on why a mere Mage like myself is posting something like this on the talk page, I got consent from DaRinor-sama, okay!? *Defensive*

So! As you know, Ultra-san and I have been helping the Captain double-check the pages you guys have finished, before finally marking them as Complete, and tagging them under the Completed Archive. In the few pages I have checked, there are a few issues things which, while not exactly what you'd call mistakes, I have noticed to be quite odd/out of place.

Number one: the multiple-links. This is, of course, not our doing, but of the ones who originally created/updated the article. But as Mages whose jobs are to correct after said articles, this automatically becomes a part of our responsibilities as well. So boring lectures on the importance of our roles as Grammar Guild Mages aside, the point is that double-links are unnecessary, and of course, should could be taken down. An example is that if Natsu Dragneel has already been mentioned once in the beginning paragraph of an article, there's no need to link Natsu anymore, in the succeeding ones.

Number two: Me and the Master kind of have disagreeing views on this (as with the one above and a lot of things too ), but there's also the matter of including or excluding apostrophes in the links. Should we decide on this? Well we're a democratic community, are we not? So let's vote on this! *Cue: Background of the National Flag of whichever country you're from*

To include, or not include. That is the question! Also, Rai-sempai, as our Supervisor, what's your take on this?
 * Hiro Mashima's vs. Hiro Mashima's

Number three: periods in captions. So Cap'n and I both agree that captions look better with periods, as it makes the text look complete, and not just a hanging phrase. Also, as what he said, most other Wikis put periods in their captions, unlike with ours. Since there is an inconsistency with some captions ending with a period, while others don't, it kind of goes against our Wiki's typical uniformity. My vote goes to putting period.

Number four: tense/form of the verb in captions. Since events are portrayed in the present tense, it's natural that the captions be written in the same format as well (I've seen some supposedly completed pages that still had past tense!). Cap'n said using present progressive (meaning, verbs end in -ing) is much better, since it depicts the picture like it is happening in the present. Unfortunately, there are still a lot of captions that are in the simple present tense, so there is an inconsistency. Yet. Again.

Alright, fellow GG Mages! Give me your takes on these matters above, so that I can finally be at peace since I'm the only one being egged on by them we may settle them once and for all! And I better see four answers, after all the effort I put on this! XD *Ignores all the incredulous, why-the-fudge-did-you-even-bother-with-this-if-you're-gonna-complain stares you're all giving me*

14:38, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

1. We should exclude the apostrophes because, in source mode it's longer.. Maybe we should add periods in captions if it is needed..(For sentences) And exclude them if it's only a phrase.. 2. I think we should exclude apostrophes in the links as it looks funny and maybe it will confuse the readers. One question, what is periods in captions?

-- 15:06, June 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Basically, we just put periods in the text under the pictures. It's like this, Laven-chan.


 * Zeref Angry.jpg


 * 01:30, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

3. 01:48, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

Joining
The whole thing basically sounds nice, but there are too many mistakes there...


 * In a far far away... land? basket? cabbage?
 * He met other magicians and duel them one at a time - It should either be meets - duelS or met - dueled.
 * A minotaur comes on his way and attacks him from head to foot - Aside from the error, what is the last part supposed to mean? :S
 * He frost the minotaur and completely beat it with his magic - "Frost" is a noun... Did you mean "Froze" here?

All in all your prose isn't bad at all, but you still need some training. Return back in some time, and we'll see ;)

-- 13:49, June 4, 2012 (UTC)