Forum:Adding a link to a character's image gallery at the top of their page?

I was browsing the Bleach Wiki and I noticed they do one extremely useful thing that this wiki doesn't: They add an easily accessible link to each character's image gallery at the top of their respective articles. The FT Wiki uses a similar bar atop the more important character's pages, would it be too difficult to add a link to a character's gallery to that?

Here's a link to the Bleach Wiki article for Ichigo, just to show what I mean: bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Ichigo_Kurosaki. Thoughts? I know the link is already at the bottom of the character template, but the top bar makes much more sense to me.

PS, Captcha seems to be broken on this wiki. Nothing loads, for me anyway, so I can't make actual links. 98.143.4.68 19:02, March 31, 2015 (UTC)


 * We already have a link to the character galleries. Its at the bottom of the infobox--
 * Yeah I mentioned that at the end of my post... I am suggesting adding it to the bar at the top instead/too, where applicable. 98.143.4.68 20:48, March 31, 2015 (UTC)

We are not doing this; we are not going to make a tab for every single character, and we are not going to break uniformity by giving only characters with subpages other than an Image Gallery a tab. It has been fine in the infobox, and it will always be fine in the infobox. We may have derived a lot of content from Bleach Wiki, but I will always maintain that tabs are hideous, no matter how we stylize them, and oh so many people here will agree with me (also 99% sure this was discussed a long ass time ago). 20:51, March 31, 2015 (UTC)
 * If everyone thinks tabs are so awful, why have them at all? It's not like there aren't other solutions. 98.143.4.68 22:06, March 31, 2015 (UTC)

lol the bleach wiki is a horrendous looking wiki. I mean just look at Ichigo's page. The background is so low quality and looks fucking ugly with the transparent content background they use. I have no fucking idea why they stopped using the series' logo as the wiki wordmark and are instead using... that. They have all these clashing reds and blue everywhere. The character quote has color that doesn't match anything. The tabber makes me want to rip my eyes off with the blues and red and the fucking appearance in other media in another line is just shit. The TOC's bubble for "Contents" is so damn tight it looks bad and it'd be better if they got rid of it. The character infobox has squares and circles for boxes. Really. Either make them all squares or all boxes but having them both is a tragedy. The Former Powers and Abilities section has the collapse boxes with titles that are illegible. And everything is a pain in the ass to read with that background. Please, no one should ever say we should do anything like the Bleach Wiki design-wise. 21:14, March 31, 2015 (UTC)
 * They stopped using the series logo because I'm the one who made the wordmark and when I left they purged the wiki of everything I made :D--


 * lol they hate you that much? and that's still no reason to stop using the damned logo of the series its not like u made the fucking logo. 21:35, March 31, 2015 (UTC)
 * That's so childish, like wat. Everything looks so terrible over there... 21:44, March 31, 2015 (UTC)
 * Well jeez, it's not like I'm suggesting you copy the style of that wiki. Personally I find it hard to navigate the Bleach wiki in comparison to this wiki. Adding an extra link to the tabs at the top wont make it look any worse than what's already there, and IMO tabs are much more useful when they list all subpages for a character. 98.143.4.68 22:06, March 31, 2015 (UTC)
 * The thing is, not all character pages have those tabs, only those whose articles got divided into several sub-pages due to their size. Or are you suggesting to add it only to already existing tabs? 22:17, March 31, 2015 (UTC)
 * I would still oppose this. It isn't necessary. It's still fine in the infobox where it always has been. This person is just being nitpicky, because even though they admitted we are easy to navigate, it apparently could be easier for him/her. 22:32, March 31, 2015 (UTC)
 * Passive aggressive much? :| I'm not being nitpicky. I saying it makes much more sense for the gallery to be added to the tabs for the characters who have tabs, after all the tabs list every other sub page for each character. This would make the wiki more consistent and make it easier for others to find the gallery. 98.143.4.68 22:48, March 31, 2015 (UTC)
 * That is exactly what I am suggesting. No need to go around adding tabs to character pages that don't already have them, especially when a lot of characters don't even have enough content to require tabs. 98.143.4.68 22:48, March 31, 2015 (UTC)
 * I still don't agree with this. I think the image galleries are fine where they are. It isn't consistent. Characters who have tabs have tabs because the content in their main articles was too large and the pages were loading extremely slowly. The images galleries were not part of the content that was separated; they were separated to begin with. Again, it is not consistent because then characters wouldn't have image gallery links in the same places. 22:51, March 31, 2015 (UTC)
 * But then you have a single subpage for the characters with tabs that isn't listed with their other subpages in the tabs. It wouldn't be necessary to remove the current link to the gallery on these pages since there are characters without tabs at all, simply to add it to the tabs as well. And by that logic, the galleries were the first thing to be separated from the main article because of slow load times as they were never included in the main pages for this reason. I'm failing to see how adding the gallery to the tabs doesn't improve consistency. 98.143.4.68 23:01, March 31, 2015 (UTC)
 * No, the galleries were never part of the articles. They have always been a separate entity. The tabs are for links information content only. Adding a link to the image galleries up top is stupid. 23:04, March 31, 2015 (UTC)

The link on the infobox is fine. When I was on Bleach wiki, I looked at FT wiki and thought that was a much better place to put it. Tabs are ugly, no reason to have more tabs.--

Also, to answer your earlier question Mr./Miss Contributor, no one wanted to split the articles into tabs. We had no choice. At that point the series was over 350 chapters long and the articles for the main 5 were tens of thousands of bytes in size (arguably, some other characters need to be split like them, but w/e), so we split the main page, the synopsis-history, the appearances in other media, and the relationships into four separate pages to make loading the pages easier. Seriously, we hate tabs. Every single one of us. It's like one of our other admins said in the forum to make them: Tabs are like abortions, you either love them or you hate them; there's no in between. However, we did it to make the wiki better. 23:02, March 31, 2015 (UTC)
 * Seriouly off topic here and I am by no means advocating this, but since everyone hates tabs, wouldn't a better option have been a reduction in content? Wikipedia for example doesn't allow articles as highly detailed as the ones you have here. Then there's the images. I just counted 175 on Natsu's synopsis page, which really is far too many. And GIFs are nice, but they tend to slow load times too much to be practical.98.143.4.68 23:28, March 31, 2015 (UTC)


 * lol not everyone hates tabs, only them. The community decided a while ago to do tabs for certain pages cuz they became necessary, but putting tabs for every character page to link to the gallery is unneeded and evidently unwanted. 00:12, April 1, 2015 (UTC)

Wow guys, no need to pound the poor man just because he uttered the word "tabs" >__>

Hiya anon~ As you can see, the people on our Wiki, uhhh, don't like tabs ^__^" Some of us get very uptight about uniformity as well, so the idea of adding extra tabs to some pages and then not to others sends us into a flurry.

I guess my main question for you is why you would like a tab link to the image galleries? Do you find the current link at the bottom of the infobox to be too small? Or is it hard to see on your computer? Or does is not load sometimes? Aka, is there something wrong with what we currently have? It's just we have had the link there since the beginning of time and nobody has brought it up like this. If there is an actual problem with it that we can fix, then we'd be glad to help. However, if it is just the case that you like tabs, I'm afraid we will likely be of little help. In which case you should just make an account called "TabMaster" or the like and hang out in blogs annoying people with the word tab :P

02:52, April 1, 2015 (UTC)
 * The truth is, to me it just seems like such an obscure place for it to be. All the way at the end of the infobox in a grey box, it looks like that spot is more like a padded footer for the info box at first glance. I've been visiting this wiki semi-regularly for the last year or so and it was only recently that I noticed the link was even there. Then today I saw the tab for the gallery on the Bleach Wiki and thought it made so much more sense for it to be there than how the FT Wiki is doing it now. So I decided to make the suggestion. Who knew it'd turn out to be such a big issue for some people? lol  If no one wants to add the gallery to the tabs for the pages that have tabs, how about moving it to just below the character portrait so that it is more prominent? Having the link below the character portrait makes sense, but this way you'd have to edit all character profiles... 98.143.4.68 03:37, April 1, 2015 (UTC)

Okay, my earlier behavior was the result of a lot of pressure outside of the computer screen, so for being rude to you I formally apologize. I just have to point out that it's at the bottom of the info boxes because every portion of the info box is organized so that certain criteria are kept together. It wouldn't fit anywhere other than the bottom, because directly below the portrait is to be the character's name, that way it is clearly identifiable. You are the first one to ever bring this up, but I'm pretty sure that we'll never ever (I mean the community as a whole) agree on a place to move the image gallery link, so it's best if we just leave it as is. Maybe make it not gray or something though...something more stand-outish. Though I can't imagine what color we could make it. Gray is neutral and goes with every color we have. :/ 03:54, April 1, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'm also wondering if there is a way to make it more stand-out-ish. Tbh, I have always found it small, but I've been here for ages, so I just got used to it. Grey is neutral, but perhaps making it a bit bigger? Or on two lines with slightly larger text? I dunno, I'm no coder and tbh I'd only agree to the change if others thought it was necessary too. This seems more like an issue to pose to new editors/users though as, like I said, all of us older users probably have no issues because we're so used to the location :/ No idea. 04:10, April 1, 2015 (UTC)


 * I think what I see wrong with making it bigger is that the font size is consistent with the overall size of the font of the whole infobox, and making it two lines, but keeping it the same font size in respect to that, would make it look rather queer. Way back when I was a wee anon a few years ago, I noticed it because the page background is white and the box is gray, and if you're actually reading the whole page for what it's worth, you'll notice it too. But I guess if you're giving it a glance over you probably will just skim right over it. This is just one of those things where if it had to change, I guess I'd be willing to help brainstorm some ideas, but I'd just prefer it rather not. ( ._.) 04:16, April 1, 2015 (UTC)


 * Well, personally, I prefer things the way they are, but we just cannot ignore him, can't we? Whatever his reasons are, he's probably inconvenienced with the location of our image galleries. Dragons of Design Brainstorming is the way to go; who knows, we might come up with a new design that would be extremely stylish and of course, friendly to everyone.
 * I wouldn't say that we need to redesign every single infobox because one person finds it...I wouldn't say "inconvenient" because they have admitted that it is quite easy to navigate. They just found it out of place due to their being tabs on character pages that have tabs that do not link to this sub-page. In years and years of doing it this way no one has found it really out of place... If you're actually looking at the page you're bound to find it; it's the only gray box amidst, generally, a box of vibrant color. If more people found it bothersome like he did then yeah, sure, but we are all here saying that it's fine, so let's not bother with what isn't broken. :/ 04:24, April 1, 2015 (UTC)


 * Agreed. I think right now it's going to be a "if anyone has a good idea, then let's check it out, otherwise, sorry but things stay the same" kinda situation. That is, unless anyone reading this has been wanting to agree that the current link is bad and hasn't, cause they'd better step forward now. 04:25, April 1, 2015 (UTC)

Like i said before. I think that is a fine place to have it. It isnt in your face and it fits nicely. So my vote goes to keeping it as is--

I don't have any ideas as to how to improve it right now, but I do think we should brainstorm some. I've always found our Image Gallery link very obscure, and it's always bothered me. Right now it's not something that's easy to notice. And considering how much work is put into the Image Galleries, I think we should put some effort into getting people to know we have them. >_> 05:02,4/1/2015