User blog comment:IamJakuhoRaikoben/Sorcerer Magazine, Issue 41: May 2015/@comment-1153699-20150601171105/@comment-1153699-20150602104918

Laxus's feats far outclass Erza's. Laxus easily blitzed and oneshotted someone who overpowered Semi-PoF Base Natsu without going all out. With just one roar, Laxus flattened both POF Natsu and Gajeel. After all he's been through.

In an actual fight, after his roar, both Natsu and Gajeel would be down like they were, then all Laxus would need to do is blitz and CQC them till they're knocked out (which shouldn't take that long considering how strong Laxus is). Laxus, by normal means (no plot, no CiS, PiS, WiS and all that BS..), is so much stronger than Natsu and Gajeel to the point where they can't even resist if he's going all out on them.

Furthermore, Laxus was severely handicapped during Fighting Festival arc and even then, they took this much damage -> As far as I remember, that is the most damage Natsu has taken against an opponent ever in this series. He was bandaged from head to toe and even a few days after the fight, he couldn't even use his magic properly.

He's also stronger than her by portrayal. After Laxus took multiple fully charged attacks from both PoF Natsu and Gajeel and came out smiling, the duo actually shat themselves seeing how strong and durable the guy was. Minerva or Erza have nothing on this.

Well all I could find was this http://img4.mangasee.co/series/FairyTail/0217-020.png He wasn't talking about Meredy taking on both Erza and Juvia. And like I said, Hades didn't know how strong FT were at the beginning.

Mard has been the leader of Tartaros (instead of END) for 400 years iirc. 400 years is a looooong time. He should know quite a bit about Kyoka's abilities and power after being in the same place as her for that long. While Laxus on the other hand rarely even set his foot in the guild. Mard would obviously know more about Kyoka than Laxus would know about Erza.

I don't think so. I think all those inconsistencies can be explained by PoF. Juvia also showed this when she fought Gray. You can see the difference in her power when she's angry compared to when she's not. An angry Juvia gave Gray quite a bit of trouble. It's not impossible she would shrek the weakest of the 7 kins (weaker than Kain and Zoldeo even). PoF is a big thing in this series obviously. I don't count it being weird or anything. It's a hidden power, like what Gohan had. Same with Natsu and his Flames of Emotion. Quite a bit characters have this power in the series (main characters especially).

That being said, PoF isn't invincible. Erza lost to Azuma and got up because of Jellal. In a one on one fight, this wouldn't happen. PoF Base Natsu lost pretty bad to Future Rogue. And Hades. And Zancrow, Laxus, Jellal, Zero etc..

When I say Laxus and Mard are vastly superior to the likes of Kyoka and Erza I'm looking at the only evidence we've got. Feats and Portrayal. By using these two things (correctly), it's pretty clear who's above who. From what I've seen, the majority of people agree that Laxus is stronger than Erza (and by extension, Minerva). Even FT veterans like Macao and Wakaba think Laxus is definitely the #2 strongest in the guild (Gildarts being #1 obviosuly). I just don't see people like Minerva giving Laxus some sort of a fight. She would get blitzed and pummeled to the ground like Tempesta (poor guy..).

I think there's a good chance Erza used her brain against Kyoka. Let's just agree to disagree about this..

"Thousands of characters much weaker have taken physical blows from Erza without suffering much." You have to take into account the force and the intent she puts behind her punches/kicks. She can smack someone to teach them a lesson or something or she can smack them in the attempt to knock them out. There's a clear difference between this -> http://img4.mangasee.co/series/FairyTail/0112-019.png And this -> http://img4.mangasee.co/series/FairyTail/0404-007.png

There's also the possibility that doing this -> http://img4.mangasee.co/series/FairyTail/0403-010.png caused Kyoka to lose a fair amount of curse power. Stealing someone's 5 senses is a very hax ability. It would only make sense if it came with a price as well.

Yes, I can. There's been a lot of times where Minerva failed to react to attacks coming at her. Here for example -> http://img4.mangasee.co/series/FairyTail/0312-010.png You can see Minerva failing to react to a non serious Kagura. And we all know the difference in power between a serious Kagura and a non serious one.

http://img4.mangasee.co/series/FairyTail/0321-013.png http://img4.mangasee.co/series/FairyTail/0321-014.png Here Erza was Pre-SO, heavily damaged, and with a broken leg and Minerva still couldn't react to her. The difference between Laxus and this Erza is like day and night in terms of fighting prowess.

Laxus has Lightning Body. Of course she won't react to him if she can't even react to a half dead Pre-SO Erza. Saying she can is an insult to Laxus (who managed to beat the strongest human Wizard Saint after tanking attacks from Orga. The strongest member of Sabertooth when it comes to offense and a bad match up against Laxus..). By feats and portrayal, Minerva is nothing compared to him.

BTW, do you people ignore feats and portrayal (as in they don't even exist) here and just look at it purely by their magic types? Because if you do it would make a lot more sense why you think Minerva can give Laxus trouble [s]although it's clear she wouldn- Naaa na na forget it, I ain't saying nothing..[/s].