Talk:Brandish μ

Brandish μ
I was wondering, should Brandish's name be changed to "Brandish μ" instead? I doubt that the Greek Alphabet has any real importance just like many how speculated on many Antagonist teams.--CNBA3 (talk) 20:36, June 30, 2015 (UTC)

Apparently we will be able to tell more from the raw once it's out, so we're waiting 20:44, June 30, 2015 (UTC)

The "μ"
Is it confirmed whether the "μ" in Brandish'es name is her last name, a honorific or a part of her first name? I was wondering because when I edited her article I went by the thought that it's a part of her first name, and, as such I added the "μ" to her name in every place it was written. But I am starting to have second thoughts... because if it is not in fact a part of her first name, according to an articles standards it should be removed, right? Cheers  21:01, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

I personally think it's fine to list her Brandish, regardless of the status of μ. 21:08, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

I'm with Chaos. Typing the 'μ' whenever she is mentioned in the articles sounds quite stupid imo. 21:12, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

Should it be removed again then? 21:15, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, it definitely should. ^___^  21:20,7/6/2015
 * Should it be removed when she's linked as well or only when she's named mid-article (if you know what I mean). Btw, hi dad, long time no see.  21:28, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * If she's linked like on a chapter page or something of that sort, her full name should be used. If it's just mid-article, then only "Brandish" is necessary. And hey son!! It feels like it's been forever! ^___^  21:33,7/6/2015
 * Yeah, I understand. I think we've already got rid of it though, so yeah. It has really been forever hasn't it! I've been focusing on other stuff, but now I'm actually back and ready to edit regularly as a member of the Wiki. Cheers dad  21:42, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm really glad to hear that!! It's always great to have some good editors on the site!! ^___^  21:51,7/6/2015
 * Yeah, thanks! 21:56, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

I too think it should be droppe. Jura isn't called Jura 5 or something similar either, just because he's the fifth' strongest Wizard Saint... assuming that the μ is about rank or power-level within the Spriggans. NoNickNeeded (talk) 21:24, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * I kinda view it as a surname of sorts, but I guess we may never know. xD 21:35, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * I viewed it as a rank, which is why I wasn't really sure why we had it attached to her name, but everyone else seems to think it's a surname, so until we get some more Spriggans appearing and shedding some light, surname it is I 'spose. :D  21:38,7/6/2015
 * Same here, μ being the 12th letter of the greek alphabet and her being the 12th Spriggan, I always viewed it as a rank or a title(like Franmalth being the Armored Shell but not included in his name) 21:42,7/6/2015
 * I never even considered the possibility of it being her surname until Miskos mentioned it above... I still don't think it is. NoNickNeeded (talk) 22:08, July 6, 2015 (UTC)
 * I guess we could find out by looking at the raws, on those 'intro cards' or what to call them, the letter μ is written together with her name, so what about Franmalth's and such? Anyone knows? 16:00, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

Ok, first, where are people getting the idea that Brandish is the "12th" Spriggan, it is not confirmed.

Second, I think the μ should stay as it is part of her name. It would be weird to leave it out. Not everyone has to use her full name every time.--CNBA3 (talk) 00:08, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

If we see any other Spriggan 12 characters with greek alphabet letters next to their names, we can safely assume its their rank. Otherwise, I'm indifferent whether we keep the Mu or not. 09:51, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

So, until we eventually get to see other members of the Spriggan 12 for confirmation about the meaning of the 'μ', we'll let it stay in her article name and include it whenever she's linked on other pages? 10:36, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

Can I just say that assuming that it has something to do with a rank is major speculation? Even if the other Spriggans (discounting God Serena) have Greek letters in their names, what does it matter? It's like Misk and I were talking about. Mashima is just getting original with names. It is written like a name, and was given in the name box, no less. Mu is just her last name. Like, seriously, let's not make a big deal about it. If the next Spriggan is Whateverthefuck λ (Lambda), then that's their name too. It isn't hard to figure out, it's just different from what we're used to. >__> 17:50, July 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * It is indeed speculation, which is precisely why Mu is still listed as her last name at this moment. No one is saying that Mu can't be her last name, we just think it could be her rank. Which is possible considering that it's the 12th letter of the greek alphabet and there are twelve Spriggans. And as far as it appearing in her name space, this isn't the first time something other than a character's name appeared in their name box. The Nine Demon Gates' alias' were given in their name boxes after all. Until we get confirmation one way or the other, obviously the Greek symbols will be considered last names. But let's not pretend that it's not worth discussing.  18:02,7/7/2015
 * It's not about it just appearing in the name space. It's about it being written exactly like how Hiro Mashima writes his names. And yes, the 9DG had their aliases written in the name boxes as well, however most of them were followed by the character "no", which indicates that it's something they're to be known by (as in an alias), which is why Franmalth's name with title is Franmalth the Armored (堅甲のフランマルス). And yes, there are indeed 12 Spriggans, however the name of one of them is God Serena, and unless his name is changed to God Beta or some shit later on, then there really shouldn't be any doubt to it. It really isn't worth discussing whether or not it's a last name until it's made clear in the story that they may or may not be names at all. And last time I checked, all the Spriggans were stated to be equal in power, both by Hyberion and Brandish herself, so having a ranking system is total bs anyway if they're merely personal guards for the king of Albareth. 18:23, July 7, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, because Franmalth's "the armored" is an alias. If Mu was a rank, then to the best of my knowledge the "no" character wouldn't have been included with it. Also, we know virtually nothing about the Spriggans as of this moment. So I don't consider God Serena's lack of a symbol as anything that excludes the symbols from being ranks yet. And furthermore, I think it would be pretty ridiculous if there was no strength difference between 12 different people who all presumably possess different Magic and abilities. I viewed Hyberion/Brandish's statements as saying that they were more or less around the same power level rather than them all being the same strength. And I'm sorry, but if damn near ten people are commenting, then it's obviously something that's worth discussing. No one here is trying to make any sort of a decision about the situation. We're all just giving opinions and how we viewed the situation, and as a matter of fact, I don't think anyone here suggested changing anything without further information. So, I'll say again, no one is saying that Mu isn't her last name, but some of us think it's a rank. But, and I'll say this again as well, no one is suggesting making any changes until we get confirmation one way or the other. :/  18:50,7/7/2015

Brandish's Magic
I went online to read Crunchyroll's translation and apparently, it's specified that she uses "transformation magic" used at an increidbly advanced level (transforming mass instead of to something else, I suppose). I feel this should be investigated further. Perhaps the wikia's user translator can take a look at it. :/ JayAaerow (talk) 03:09, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

That seems more like a general mention rather than a specific mention of the completely unrelated Transformation Magic, and even if it was, no other translator mentioned anything of the sort. We'll know more when Chaos sees the raw, but I doubt there was any kind of specified Magic name. :P  03:26,7/15/2015
 * Yeah. I get it but I just wanted to put that out here just in case someone had their own two-sense of this. From my understanding, she "would" use transformation magic to not alter her appearance like other but actually alter the "form" of people or things. Transforming by definition after all doesn't pertain to solely appearance. ;D JayAaerow (talk) 04:41, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Should her magic have it's own separate page? {Ncduru (talk) 22:44, August 3, 2015 (UTC)}
 * Not quite yet. We'll wait until we know more about it.  22:50,8/3/2015

Also the way Brandish transported back the ship, seems as though she has teleportation magic... agree? {Ncduru (talk) 00:03, August 10, 2015 (UTC)}
 * Sorry, but that would be major speculation. If we can't confirm anything with solid references, it won't go on the article.  00:20, August 10, 2015 (UTC)

I think it's basically explained what her magic can do now: change the size proportions and mass of anything: objects, people and for the picture of the page we could use a before and after of caracol island or a mini marin so we're all good with making the page now?  Ncduru 11:15,9/18/2015

Yep, I guess we are. *shrugs*

Teleportation Magic?
In this part you can see easily that she teleported back to the ship. It can be considered her magic? DisneySeggewys (talk) 00:50, August 23, 2015 (UTC)

Possibly, but, although unlikely, it could also have been another kind of Magic. We can't put it into the article until we know for sure that it was Teleportation Magic; putting such info now would be equivalent to speculation.

But what if she never teleports again?

Klainatta (talk) 19:35, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Already asked G... when her battle comes up most of her magic will probably be confirmed.. so far she has Matter Manipulation magic and Teleportation magic but can't completely confirm the second until more, although i'd be in favor of adding it in. Gotta see what kind of magic she used to kill Marin too cause it all could tie in together--Ncduru (talk) 19:58, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Quote
So yeah just want to get this out the way: I have no problems at all with her quote, matter I love it cause it was just a overall badass moment from her and something we've been seeing hella often from her character, so it doesn't matter if changes or stays. That being said I rather get the wiki's opinion on it cause I think there'll be people who will like the proposed quote... since it kinda, sorta, really perfectly describes her character... just reading it makes me say "yeah that's Brandish for you" in my head lol. If anything is wrong with the current it's cause it describes more of Alvarez's power and less of Brandish's way of thinking. But shoot your votes below

""Consider this a warning: Stay away from us. There are twelve wizards in Alvarez of my caliber. It would be ill-advised to start a war you have no chance of winning.""
 * Current

- Brandish to Fairy Tail in "And the Land Just Vanished"

""How I feel and what I do are two different things. It might be annoying, but if it's an order, you know I'll follow through on it.""
 * Proposed

- Brandish to Emperor Spriggan in "Prelude to the Final Battle"


 * Support
 * 1) It is better as a main quote 'cuz more about Brandish than the situation. --Sane Lunatic (talk) 16:35, October 29, 2015 (UTC)
 * 2) The current quote, in all honesty of my personal opinion, leaves an impression of her as an arrogant Mage, something which I hardly believe is true. The proposal, though, reflects more of her character. :P
 * 3) going with flow  Ncduru Ravens wallpaper (2).jpg 11:47,10/30/2015
 * 4) I don't really feel any of them tbh; both of the quotes kind of contradicts her true personality... but meh, I'll bite.
 * 03:14, October 31, 2015 (UTC)

He's right. :/ 03:50, October 31, 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose
 * 1) The quote should be indicative of a person's personality. Neither of these really indicate her personality but the first one more so than the proposal. We need a quote that demonstrates how she finds everything such a pain or her love of cute things. A quote of her following orders is not a good change since she never follows orders.--

I hope we'll get something good from her in the next chapter(s). NoNickNeeded (talk) 17:33, October 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * Neutral

I'll change my vote when I get off work, just want to see which quote everyone else is feeling  Ncduru 16:23,10/29/2015
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