Talk:Fairy Tail (Guild)

Shouldn't we work on the existing pages? i feel that we should stop adding pages that we have almost nothing about(Nav, Lisana) if there just going to be little paragraphsUmibouzu 18:06, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

That's half true, i'm currentley trying to put all pages in the same layout as Natsu so that the wiki is currentley the same.

However, when their all done, then we'll pretty much have to make paragraphs for other characters.

The only characters that I think shouldn't have a profile are: Miki Chickentiger, Mikuni Sin and Tono Rabbits, since they have not appeared in the manga (other then like one panel of the Fighting Festival Arc).

I'm currentley working on pictures for the synopsis sections.

I think Only the Main characters, the important guild members(Makarov, Mirajane, Elfman,Macao, Kana, Luxus, raijinshuu etc.) anyone whose page has only the info learned from guild cards(Nav, Reedus Arzack) should not get pages until there relevantUmibouzu 21:12, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Are you sure? Almost all other Wikia's i've been to have very minor character and pages about them that are two lines.

I think all Fairy Tail members should respectivley get their own page. :/ My opinion atleast.

Lets think of a compromise.....how about we dont add there pages until we have the meaningful characters pages all in order then we can put up the other guild members pages Umibouzu 03:38, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

That sounds good. :D

"Guild"?
It seems more appropriate to me to get rid of the "guild" altogether and just go with "Fairy Tail". Not like they ever call it "Fairy Tail guild". Dalyup! 18:59, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

strength
in that senction it is mentioned that natsu gray and the raijinshuu are as strong or stronger than s class mages.sorry but this is totally incorrect.natsu was beaten easily by gildarts and he is also definitely much weaker than luxus mystogun and erza.and of course gray is around his level so the same goes for him and for the raijinshuu.the only s class member who is at their level is juvia and i think this is only for gray cause natsu with his fire wouldnt be able to match her.but even if he could just being able to fight with one of the s class mages who is probably the weakest of them isnt enough to say that natsu and the others are as strong as the s class guys since all of them except one are stronger than natsu gray or the raijinshuu.Halaros 22:45, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Gajeel Redfox is stronger than Juvia Loxar (based on the Phantom's ranking of power), so he should technically be considered an S-Class mage. On the whole Natsu argument, it is quite evident that he is at the level of an S-Class mage (Gildarts/Makarov are above that). Natsu defeated Jellal Fernandes (former Ten Wizard Saints), and he also defeated Zero (extremely powerful dark mage). Only an extemely powerful mage could defeat those opponents, and Natsu achieved that.

-We have no idea how someone is made an S-Class mage, we cant be sure power is the only reason, Natsu could be powerful, but that might not be what makes him an S-Class mage. Gazille and Lluvia are S-Class, so we assume they have something Natsu Gray and the Raijinshuu dont. soyou cant possibly compare them powerwise. -Umi

I'm pretty sure the reason Natsu ain't an S-Class mage is got to do with his age/recklessness; He's quite the irresponsible character (and somewhat of a comic-relief at times). If I recall correctly, the Raijinshuu were defeated by fellow Fairy Tale mages.

Erza's only 2 years older than him, Regardless of whatever we speculate, Natsu and anyone else who isnt an s-mage cant be considered a s-class in power or practically s-class. I dont remember where it said LLuvia was a S-Class mage, anyone know where they said it?


 * Natsu isn't a mage class, S-class mages currently are: Erza (as the strongest woman in the FT), Gildartz (the strongest member of the FT), Juvia (as a member of Element 4, as it was mentioned during the Miss Fairy Tail Contest, she was presented as a "Our new S-class mage"). Former members are: Mystogan (was Edoras) and Laxus (was expelled from the FT).


 * At the moment it isn't known whether the S-class mage is Gajeel, it never has been said that he isn't, but nobody said that he is. This question remains open, as long as Hiro Mashima will officially confirm or deny. That's all. Ishthak 10:47, August 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Technically, Juvia's Miss FT introduction says her "strength" or "abilities" are S-class (depending on the translation), which isn't the same as saying she's officially S-class. After all, Gazille's strength/abilities are S-class too. That said, I've never seen any indication that either she or Gazille lost their S-ranks upon leaving PL and joining FT. If anything, Gazille's secret double-agent mission is almost certainly S-class (where "any mistake can mean death," or something along those lines). MechR 04:52, August 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * I decided to move Gazille up based on the Raven Tail mission (whose danger level Makarov even apologized for). At first I was going to move Juvia down and add a note to the S-class section, but that would leave Erza as the only "confirmed" S-class member, which is a bit hard to swallow. MechR 05:51, August 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * Lluvia is ok because its STATED that she is S-Class level, Natsu and co. were specualted to be S-class(one is said by fans, the other is outright stated in the manga by Hiro Mashima) Gazille's mission doesnt mean anything, he just seems the most likely to hate fairy tail. If you had a healing mage, would you send an S-Class mage to heal someone? NO! you send the healing mage cause they seem most likely to complete the job. and unless stated by Makarov to be an S-class mission, it's Just speculation. -Umi


 * As I pointed out, the Miss FT announcer did NOT say Juvia is officially S-class. Re: Raven Tail, even with Gazille's background, playing a double agent between FT and the largest independent dark guild still spells death from any mistake. Plus it's a mission important to Makarov personally. I don't see how it couldn't be considered an S-class job.
 * And speaking of speculation, why do people even think Juvia or Gazille might have lost their S-ranks in the first place? AFAIK there's absolutely nothing that suggests they did, and alot that suggests they didn't. MechR 08:54, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * -Whatever you feel is correct doesnt make it correct, unless we can find WHERE it says Lluvia is S-Class or s-class like, or Gazille is on an S-class mission, they ARENT. Speculation doesnt count as fact because it seems correct. All im asking for is proof that says those two things are true, otherwise their untrue, thats how wiki's work -UMI
 * Again, why is it assumed that they lost the rank at all? The argument that they kept the rank may only have "soft" evidence, but the argument that they lost the rank doesn't have any. I'd be okay with adding a note that they were certified by PL and it's unclear whether the rank carries over, but definitively removing them should take more burden of proof. MechR 22:15, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Simple, regardless of lack of proof, its better to keep it out of the s-class section unless either of them or s-class becuase its still speculation. It's Innocent Until Proven guilty here, so if there's nothing say they are S-class, then they arent -Umi
 * But they were already S-class before joining FT. "Innocent until proven guilty" is exactly why we shouldn't be punishing them with a demotion when all the soft evidence points the other way. MechR 01:54, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * But assuming they still are when no one said "They retained their ranks" would worse, nothing says they retained their ranks. Fairy Tail might have different standards then Phantom Lord, and thus cant be considered transferred over, Its still speculating things, unless ANYTHING related to Gazille and Lluvia and S-class mages is found, they cannot be considered S-Class.
 * Everything you say is based on assumptions, as plausible as it might be, unless it's said, they arent S-Class -Umi
 * Everything you say is based on assumptions, as plausible as it might be, unless it's said, they arent S-Class -Umi