Talk:Avatar arc

Temporary Name
Hi,

Since we don't know the name of the current arc, can we give it a temporary name? Why not The Revival Of Fairy Tail Arc? It's only temporary until Mashima reveals the true name of this arc. --Etweens96 (talk) 16:25, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

We will wait for more info 16:27, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Actually, I support this since it's better than the current name and it can just be changed whenever we get a better name. 16:58, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

I think we should wait at least one more chapter. Also, Revival of Fairy Tail arc sounds too long. :P 17:03, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

I want to wait for as long as possible because renaming all the stuff multiple times will be pain in ass. The arc may go about the reunion for a few chapters and then, for all we know, Four Ishgal Kings may crash into the scene. But again, if you're willing to do all the renaming, by all means... xP Just know that there are character articles/categories/navigations/galleries etc. that are gonna need changing. 17:10, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
 * ^ This. --Sane Lunatic (talk) 17:40, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

I think it should be something related to the recent chapter.

Something like "Neverending Journey Arc" or "New Adventure Arc" or the "Fairy Search Arc", those are the best Titles I can come up with at the moment.

In all honesty, "Revival of Fairy Tail" seems a little far fetch, that pertains it all ready happen, I suggest that name doesn't get used until the end of the arc to see if Fairy Tail actually does get revived or not.--CNBA3 (talk) 17:26, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

I think a temp name better than Current Unnamed arc is in need. I'd just go with X792 arc.--

I figured Revival of Fairy Tail would do until we got an actual name, we don't have to change the arc names on the character pages just this one. not only that, reason I chose Revival of Fairy Tail was because Natsu announces to Lucy that they're going to find every member and revive the guild. Plus, Jason was the one who said "The Revival of Fairy Tail?!" lol --Etweens96 (talk) 23:04, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

I like the sound of the Neverending Journey Arc suggestion. 05:23, February 8, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with God. It's best to call it X792 arc since it's vague, non-descriptive and is appropriate for this transitional arc/events/few chapters, especially since we're going to get a better idea of what's to come very soon within the next few chapters. Plus, it complements our X791 arc page, since both were quite transitional. 19:04, February 8, 2015 (UTC)

I can agree with that, quick, simple and easy. Now the only thing I can say for this Arc is.................... ROAD TRIP!!!! Lol --Etweens96 (talk) 22:32, February 8, 2015 (UTC)

Why do we have to rush into everything? Why can't we just wait like 2 or 3 weeks to see what would be a more suitable name for this arc? It's not like it'll hurt anything to give it a few weeks and just see where the story takes us. It's like Misk said, why should we go around and change everything right now only to probably bring up a name change discussion later and then re-change what we have already changed. It is just an absolute headache. Thus I oppose renaming this arc right now, as "Current Events" suits us just fine for where we currently are. I recognize and support the need to have everything categorized, but c'mon, we all know it will get its proper place in due time anyway, so chill. 23:20, February 8, 2015 (UTC)

The chapters from 1 to 417 were about the Dragon era. The chapters from 418 to xxx are about the New (unnamed) era. Now the characters have different goals and powers (i.e. Natsu is E.N.D.). The chapters 418 & 419 are the first arc of this "era" but from 420 starts another arc. I think we could name the chapters 418 & 419 as X792, Return of Natsu or another name arc and the next chapters (different place from Magnolia and little time skip) as Current arc Clipens (talk) 07:59, February 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ummmm... no? 418 started a new arc. 419, 420, 421 and so on are all in this new arc. I have no idea where you get that 420 is going to start another new arc--

What do you intend for "arc", "saga" and "part"? Clipens (talk) 08:19, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

Im guessing English is not your first language but this is a discussion of the current arc. No arc is only 2 chapters long we are still in the same arc as 418--

@Clipens, lol. this is not one piece wiki. We don't separate arcs into sagas and sagas into parts like they do. It works for their wiki because in One Piece most arcs come related to each other to make sagas, but that's not the case for FT. 14:40, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

It's the word "Unnamed" which turns the title into an irritating one. You don't note the problem because you focalize only into the main story. Actually the other 4 side stories have an own "Current unnamed arc". I think a page "Current arc" is needed but with a different purpose. When you go in that page you should see the link to the last narrative arc of Fairy Tail (manga), Fairy Tail (anime), FT Zero, FT Blue Mistral, FT Ice trail and Fairy girls. Clipens (talk) 16:37, February 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ice Trail and Zero are History, they don't get arc pages. Blue Mistral and Fairy Girls aren't considered canon, not to mention they are trivial, so they most probably won't get arc pages. This site goes by manga, so the current arc is the one going on in the manga, not in the anime. It already has 'Unnamed' in it and changing the name by just removing the word would be a waste of time. And we have too little info to given the arc a definitive name. --Sane Lunatic (talk) 16:46, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

Use "Current events" on character pages and tbh just delete this arc page with the stupid title for now - it's really not that necessary a page and no one will really know it's gone as far as I'm concerned. This will allow us to get/make a title a little later when we have more of an idea of the focus of the arc (I think it's a little premature for everyone to be claiming it is definitely a revive FT arc even if that is a part of it) and not have to change the arc name 50 times and confuse wiki readers. PLUS we can use this format for all future arcs and not have to worry about coming up with names right away. 23:05, February 9, 2015 (UTC)


 * Actually, I think it's a good idea to have this page right away, this way we can just keep adding chapter summaries every week rather than having to write it later for dozen chapters at the same time. I do agree the name is stupid though... I'd rather have it as Current Events, the same way it's in the articles, but that's just a small detail, I suppose. 08:15, February 10, 2015 (UTC)

Since we can never keep our discussions organized... :D Vote below, only vote, no discussions. If it's a tie, I'll change my vote to X792. But I like the sound of this Revival of FT. Even if different things happen along the way, it's still going to be about riving Fairy Tail. ( .-.) 18:51, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

Wait

 * 1)  18:53, February 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * 2) --Sane Lunatic (talk) 18:55, February 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * 3) Please.  18:56, February 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * 4) This or X792, but preferably this for now 20:07, February 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * 5)  23:05, February 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * 6) NoNickNeeded (talk) 23:40, February 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * 7)  00:36, February 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * 8)   01:02, February 10, 2015 (UTC)

Revival of Fairy Tail

 * 1) Yes~  18:51, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

X792

 * 1) Only one that makes sense considering the info we have so far--
 * 2)  Clipens (talk) 19:49, February 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * 3)  21:37, February 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * 4) --  The Talk Goblin  21:42, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

Suggestion
Would "Fairy Tail Revival arc" be a more suitable name? I'm not really feeling the "x792" year thing. It worked for the last timeskip because it was set seven years later and was more of a breather arc. This feels like it could be building to something bigger. Were still really only three chapters in (as of this writing). So I'll wait come the next chapter to see where this'll go. Also question, why is this locked but someone still editing it? (Retro7 (talk) 19:43, February 16, 2015 (UTC))

It has already been decided to wait a bit more until the point of the arc becomes more clear. And I think it was locked because we didn't want people renaming the page without discussion, but editing is now unlocked to registered users 19:52, February 16, 2015 (UTC)

Rename 2
So chapter 423's cover says at the top that the new arc's aim is the rebuilding of Fairy Tail so I think it is time to finally choose a name for the arc. Don't start voting for a name already, just say whether you think we should choose already or wait more.
 * 1) Choose name already.  12:53, March 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * 2) seems like a long name but eh, at least it's time to change.
 * 3) Choose name, we have enough info. --Sane Lunatic (talk) 13:01, March 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * 4)  13:02, March 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * 5) --  The Talk Goblin  13:04, March 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * 6) Insivel (talk) 13:23, March 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * 7) If the cover says that the aim of the new arc is to rebuild Fairy Tail, why are we voting on whether or not to wait? >_> I say we just get right to it instead of drawing it out for a week...  19:41, March 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * 8) *shrugs*  21:29, March 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * 9) *Ahem* Rebuilding of Fairy Tail - > Revival of Fairy Tail *Ahem*  20:58, March 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * 10) So now we're supporting whether we're having a name change? I figured it was obvious considering it is currently called "Current Unnamed Arc". Anyways, I'm digging something along the lines of Reunion. Fairy Tail's Reunion arc, perhaps? Especially if this arc is full of mini stories per character.  05:49, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

Cool so we all agree its time. Now if you have any suggestions for a name besides Revival of Fairy Tail arc (this is too damn long >_>) or X792 arc speak now before we begin the vote in 24 hours 00:10, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

We already have a "_________ of Fairy Tail arc", and I would not like another one. I prefer Fairy Tail's Rebirth arc because it means the same thing and it's shorter. 00:17, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

Fairy Tail's Rebirth arc sounds way too clunky imo. >___< 01:17,3/11/2015

I concede to this, but I still think it's better than RoFT, because as we can all see, we already have a *blank* of Fairy Tail arc name, and having another of those, as well as another X79_ arc is just plain tasteless. I dunno, shorten it. Fairy's Rebirth arc or something. Or really anything that isn't RoFT arc. I don't care, I'm not that picky. ( ^_^) 01:19, March 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * What about the Revival or Rebirth arc? They lack specificity, but they don't feel wrong on the tongue either. :P 01:31,3/11/2015

Fairy Tail's Rebirth Arc is the closest thing to a canon name we have. It may sound clunky but I think we should go with it--
 * How are any of these more canon than any other? >_> 01:31,3/11/2015
 * Whore, read the first post.--
 * I read the post before commenting. The word "rebirth" is never mentioned. >_> Nor is it mentioned on the actual chapter cover. 02:10,3/11/2015
 * I'm actually liking just "Revival arc" :) 01:42, March 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * I like it too. :D 02:10,3/11/2015
 * Arc names are meant to be descriptive yet short. Revival arc is hardly descriptive. 02:16, March 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * Normally, yes. But this wouldn't be the first time we made an exception. Macao arc is hardly a descriptive title. Especially considering that about 85% of this arc had absolutely nothing to do with Macao. >_> 02:22,3/11/2015
 * Which is why that arc should be renamed :D--
 * Lol, to what? To the "Lucy joins Fairy Tail and Macao is Rescued arc?" >:D 02:40,3/11/2015
 * Intro arc, Welcoming Arc, Joining Fairy Tail Arc. All probs more suitable :P--
 * All have many of the same issues as the current name. >_> 03:02,3/11/2015
 * Macao was the focus of just over half the arc. This arc is going to be about 10x the length of the Macao arc. Having such a ridiculously butchered name isn't very good. Revival of what? Could be about the revival of God's Jewish heritage for all the readers of the site could know. 02:26, March 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm like 80% sure it wasn't over half the arc, but you do make a good point. :P Unless someone has a good proposal, I'm thinking Revival/Rebirth of Fairy Tail arc is going to be our best bet. It's not ideal, but it's the only prop we've got that is descriptive without being clunky. >_> 02:40,3/11/2015

* reset indent* Hmm, I dunno, I reeeeeally hope someone pulls a good name out of their anus. >_< 02:50, March 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * As distrubing as that metaphor is, me too. >__< 03:02,3/11/2015

How is Revival of Fairy Tail arc any long? o_O I mean, we have "Tower of Heaven arc," "Battle of Fairy Tail arc," "Grand Magic Games arc," and even a canon Anime title: "Key of the Starry Sky arc." And calling "____ of Fairy Tail arc" tasteless is absurd just because two other arcs have the name (one if Fighting Festival had stayed) "of Fairy Tail" in it. Funny how Fighting Festival gained a tasteless name. 03:06, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

No need to be a jerk, Mega. Having two arcs with the same essential name is tasteless, however if you'll remember, that name came from Hiro himself. If it's the only name we can settle on then so be it, but if there is another name we can find that doesn't mimic 3 or 4 other arc names that exist on the wiki, then that'd be even better. 03:16, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

'Revival', 'Rebirth', etc. imply that Fairy Tail actually is going to come back, but we don't know if that is true. Revival also includes reclaiming the Guild, rebuilding it, etc. Most of this will be shown in maybe a Chapter, the larger part of the arc focussing on the search for members. Therefore, I prefer Umnei's suggestion: something with Reunion. Fairy Reunion arc? Maybe a previous recommendation (CNBA3's), Fairy Search arc? This describes the main plotline of the arc and fits whether Fairy Tail is revived or not. --Sane Lunatic (talk) 06:54, March 11, 2015 (UTC)
 * Even if the guild isn't revived, the arc is about at least attempting to revive the guild, so the arc name should be something similar to that effect, which is why we all believe it should include Rebirth/Revival in the name. 14:41, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

Uhhh, I'm not too happy with Rebirth/Revival of Fairy Tail either, Rebirth/Revival arc on its own doesn't sound good enough, but since there isn't anything else - I have absolutely no suggestions, braindead - I'd pick... Natsu is fucking OP arc Rebirth of Fairy Tail arc, Reunion of FT being close second. I think these are our best bet at the moment. 15:03, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

Voting
Well guys, it's been two days and no one has given anything resembling a better name, so here we go. There are three options: Rebirth; Revival; and Reunion. It's all up to preference on this, but remember to only vote below. We've already gone in circles above.

Revival of Fairy Tail

 * 1) Unfortunately.  18:08, March 13, 2015 (UTC)

Rebirth of Fairy Tail

 * 1) Idc tho  18:10, March 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * 2) Idc but this one is ok I guess--
 * 3) Sounds the best in my opinion. 18:58, March 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * 4) 'Rebirth: a period of new life, growth, or activity; a revival.' Seems too archaic imo  17:37, March 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * 5) I don't care lol. --I play pokemon so hi. (talk) 17:55, March 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * 6) Meh, I like it best. :P 18:39,3/15/2015

Reunion of Fairy Tail

 * 1) Fairy Reunion better, imo. ._. --Sane Lunatic (talk) 18:11, March 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * 2) 'Reunion: the action of being brought together again as a unified whole.' Seems most appropriate  17:32, March 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * 3) Just has a better ring to it. I feel it adds more emphasis to the former members meeting again as opposed to just the Guild coming back, since we all know, these members are family beyond name. :P  18:58, March 15, 2015 (UTC)

Revival arc

 * 1) Because I like it the most.  18:26, March 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * 2) "It's not descriptive enough, bitch," or so I would say if God didn't beat me to it.  18:38, March 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * 3) I agree with Wrath, it's not that descriptive >_> --I play pokemon so hi. (talk) 17:57, March 15, 2015 (UTC)

19th Story Arc????
Tartaros Arc is like the 15th... The unnamed arc is the 19th!? Guess that it's the wrong number... --I play pokemon so hi. (talk) 18:00, March 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the numbering is fucked. This arc really is the 19th (chronologically). I'll go through and check the arc numbering for chronological correctness. Tartarus is technically the 18th story arc. 18:03, March 15, 2015 (UTC)

So wait, is this because of anime only arcs? Shouldn't those be separated? 18:05, March 15, 2015 (UTC)

I don't really know, because they all fit in somewhere. It's not like on Bleach where there would be a 9 month filler smack in the middle of an arc. 18:07, March 15, 2015 (UTC)

Still... maybe something like x.5th? Although that's kinda dumb, so perhaps say that it's xth in anime and yth in manga. I just find it dumb that if someone is going through canon arcs, they will see missing numbers and shizz. 18:13, March 15, 2015 (UTC)

Mashima has taken the efforts to have the anime filler arcs at least fit the storyline, why overcomplicate things? We don't have to consider them canon, but the numbering of a story arc is hardly something worth arguing over. And there's no page on the wiki that has the canon and anime arcs separated, nowhere have the arcs been numbered either. So this is a bit ... trivial? (And from all indications, Mashima considers KotSS to be canon. I believe he even asked readers to watch the arc for more info on Kinana. But w/e >.>) @413: It's the 19th arc according to the Story Arcs page anyway. --Sane Lunatic (talk) 18:17, March 15, 2015 (UTC)

Regardless of whether it's canon or not, it's not present in the manga, thus, saying that this is 19th arc is, if we are to be exact, incorrect. 18:21, March 15, 2015 (UTC)

Well, my bad. Looks like the arcs are numbered on their own page. But, they are numbered according to the manga anyway, Tartarus arc being fifteenth. So ... what's the debate about? XD --Sane Lunatic (talk) 18:27, March 15, 2015 (UTC)

It's about the fact that this page was claiming it was a 19th arc before you edited it. xD Whatever the point of view is, it's inconsistent. So either we ignore anime-only arcs in numbering, give it special numbers or just make separate one for anime and separate one for manga. Looks like the "ignore anime-only arcs" is already happening tho, so with your edit, all is good now? 18:44, March 15, 2015 (UTC)