Talk:Seilah

Abilities
So we've seen recently that Sayla is able to manipulate books and make them fly around and (somehow) do damage to Mirajane. We are gonna discuss whether that ability is part of her Curse Macro or if she is using the Magic Telekinesis. Please don't just vote but actually provide evidence when saying what you believe is happening. Discuss! :P 15:17, April 11, 2014 (UTC)

I am for Telekinesis because all she is doing is levitating inanimate objects. Yes, Demons uses Curses, but there has been nothing said about them being unable to use Magic. That is an assumption. Macro however has been shown to be an ability that requires the user to give commands to other beings. 15:18, April 11, 2014 (UTC)

When I read the chapter, the first thought that came to mind was Telekinesis. I'm okay with Macro for the living things, but I really don't see the difference between her manipulating the books here, and the other examples of Telekinesis. Also, the current Macro page states it "is a Curse that involves bodily manipulation." If the community really comes to the conclusion that it is Macro, then that description needs to be changed too. 15:34, April 11, 2014 (UTC)

While observing, it looks like Telekinesis but given her Curse she can manipulate living or dead, assuming she can manipulate books as well. She uses hand gestures to send those books towards Mira and they aren't normal books since it hurt her implying it's infused with Sayla's Cruse. Kamika is able to manipulate paper, books are made from paper, so they are fairly similar and it isn't categorized as Telekinesis since it's the nature of her magic. Other characters are shown to manipulate objects or humans without Telekinesis:


 * Bickslow - can move objects by infusing it with souls.
 * Ivan - Able to manipulate paper dolls.
 * Sherry - Her magic is very similar to Salya's Curse but can't control humans.
 * Ooba - She can make you spin =D

If anything she's infusing those books with her Curse.

What do all of you make of there not being any books before Sayla came. And that the mass of books from previous chapters is now gone and there are only 5 or so anymore.

Did she bring the books with her? Did she summon them? Or could it even be that those weren't books in the first place, but that she just formed her magic/curse into the shape of books? NoNickNeeded (talk) 19:02, April 11, 2014 (UTC)

I see comments about her controlling a corpse, but the problem with that is said corpse still only operated within its natural abilities, and even then poorly. We are now talking about inanimate objects levitating, which if memory serves me correctly, books cannot do. I do not believe her ability is so powerful that she merely has to tell something to fly for it to be able to. 03:29, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure, but commanding a corpse to fire a magic spell is bound to be more complicated than "hover and fly there". NoNickNeeded (talk) 08:52, April 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * Not if the body was capable of such magic to begin with. Again, books can't naturally fly. People can naturally use magic (in the Fairy Tail universe. Don't try this at home, kids). So if Sayla commanded Elfman to fly, we might see an air battle between Lizardman and Happy soon? Yum yum, kitty stew.  23:53, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

Support Macro

 * 1)  I believe it's a part of her Curse, she could control a corpse, so it's not farfetched to think that in the same way, she can control non living objects. I'm also inclined to believe that Demons do not make use of Magic at all for several reasons, one, they are too proud to get down on humans' level as shown on multiple occasions with Franmalth, Kyouka or recently, Lamy, who got mad when Lisanna called Sayla's ability a Magic and two, wouldn't they be wiping out part of their abilities with Face if they were using Magic? So yep, it's part of her Macro, imo.  15:31, April 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2)  Okay, so I'm actually going to explain my own reasons for this support, and here goes: From what we've seen, the only prerequisite for Sayla's curse is that whatever she gives an order to needs a solid form. So, with that in mind, she doesn't need to see what needs to be controlled because she said flat out that she can control whatever she's placed on order on remotely at any time. So if she just placed an order on her books, then she can just order them to come to her from wherever, which in this case is their headquarters.  18:49, April 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) Sayla was able to control a dead body back then, and she even said something about her Macro not working so well on something that is already dead. And controlling books, which are lots smaller than a human body and weight less, shouldn't be a problem when she was able to take control of a whole corpse.  19:45, April 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) Part of her Curse. If Sayla was using Magic, Lamy would not correct Lisanna. Who knows, maybe the books she's levitating are Books of Zeref too...  Mamerge Mirajane_Chibi_2.PNG‎ 07:28,4/13/2014
 * 1) Part of her Curse. If Sayla was using Magic, Lamy would not correct Lisanna. Who knows, maybe the books she's levitating are Books of Zeref too...  Mamerge Mirajane_Chibi_2.PNG‎ 07:28,4/13/2014
 * 1) Part of her Curse. If Sayla was using Magic, Lamy would not correct Lisanna. Who knows, maybe the books she's levitating are Books of Zeref too...  Mamerge Mirajane_Chibi_2.PNG‎ 07:28,4/13/2014

Support Telekinesis

 * 1)  Even if we end up calling it 'Telekinesis Curse', I am adamant that her levitating books can be the same ability as giving verbal commands to beings (dead or alive).   15:50, April 11, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) for the reasons I stated above.  16:02, April 11, 2014 (UTC)

Macro doesn't work on other demons?
From chapter 380, Sayla has stated her Macro doesn't work on Mirajane despite working on Elfman. Is it safe to assume her curse has no effect on demons (as Mira is partially one)? --Taiga Yang (talk) 02:12, April 12, 2014 (UTC)

EDIT: Nvm... missed the part on page 14 x_x sorry about that. --Taiga Yang (talk) 02:15, April 12, 2014 (UTC)