User blog comment:Marco the Marine Admiral/After watching Chapter 316, I bet that.../@comment-5552025-20130131005943/@comment-5552025-20130131073817

Eddiej: There are several things wrong with what you said. First, you made assumptions, I never stated that Laxus could just throw up the Thunder Palace. In fact, I stated that I believed he wasn't the leader because his job was to put it up at all costs. One does not simply activate the Thunder Palace. Another assumption is that Laxus did not receive the second origin, although it is assumed that he would have it does not guarantee that he does not.

As for Natsu's previous fights, yes, Natsu was in dragon force against Jellal. But did Jellal activate the Thunder Palace, fight 2 S Class wizards, and then take on Natsu, and have Gajeel come help too? Either way I can agree that it is relative. As for Hades though, I don't recall Hades using more than one Amaterasu seal, the one that missed Wendy because of Horologium. And even if he was, he is next to his heart, so it wouldn't have made a difference, since his tossing around powerful spells later in the match endorses that idea. Again, relative, but both can easily point towards Laxus being reasonably strong. (using the Thunder Palace, skirmishing against 2 S Class wizards, using Fairy Law, activating Dragon Force... he tossed away a stupid amount of magic power in that part, imagine if he used it solely for his one fight.)

And also, having a condescending attitude makes the other person less amiable to what you are saying. Fortunately I try to be reasonable about it, but that won't help you at all.