User blog comment:IamJakuhoRaikoben/Chapter 440: God Serena, Review./@comment-26389992-20150615123219/@comment-1153699-20150616123536

@Jakuho -> 1) Laxus was a lot more injured and [|worn out] [|here] then he was against [|Hades] and yet he continued to fight for a while and take even more damage. But in the end, with all the damage and bruises he took, he beat Jura. If Hades could've taken Laxus out as easily as you say after Bomb Formula, then Jura would have had no problems finishing him off too. But we both know that's not what happened...

When a Mage has no Magic in their bodies, even just one attack can give them serious injuries. That's how Natsu managed to actually beat Laxus when normally his attacks would have literally no effect. After taking Bomb Formula and Explosion Bullet (which is even a stronger attack than the former) from Hades who intended to finish Laxus off, Laxus suffered no injuries just an hour or two later. That's an insane endurance and durability feat.

Again, I'm not saying Laxus would have beaten Hades, but I do think he can at least give Hades a good fight before really going down.

2) These are all different cases though.

Before Pandemonium, only Natsu, Gray, Lucy and Wendy were shocked (while people like Hibiki and Novally weren't..). Hiro drew them like that for comical purposes. [|Look] [|closely]. Not to mention the fact that both Natsu and Gray [|bursted out laughing] after Erza said she was gonna solo the event. There was nothing comical about Kagura mopping the floor with Erza (in Hiro's mind anyway xDD). Makarov, or anyone else, didn't laugh when Erza won. They were shocked the whole way through. There's a clear difference in atmosphere between the two events.

Mavis was sweating at Minerva's type of Magic. Not at Minerva's MP or power. Makarov on the other hand was sweating at Kagura's power. Two different cases.

Erza, Gray, Juvia and basically everyone else were sweating due to the sheer size of [|Ikusa-Tsunagi]. Natsu wasn't sweating because he was just really pissed off. His mentality was different than theirs. They also [|weren't worried] when Natsu intended to fight that thing alone. Also two different cases.

Laxus sweating at Jura one-shotting Orga is the only case that is comparable to Makarov sweating at Kagura's power. In Laxus's mind, Jura was really fucking strong. He went as far as to call him a monster. Jura and Laxus were equally matched with Laxus having tiny bit of an edge. Imo, Laxus suffered almost grievous injuries from that fight. Jura wasn't stronger than Laxus but he sure as hell was extremely close to being one.

Whether Makarov is stronger than Kagura or not is debatable imo. But personally, I just don't see him being on SO Erza's level or above...

3) Makarov was active for more than 3 months and people still called Jura the strongest Human Wizard Saint.

4) The way I see it, the examples you've given are all different except for the Laxus and Jura one.

5) The gap in power between GMG Jura and OS Jura is also enormous. Besides, Jura was being modest like Warrod was. It's true that Jura was the weakest of the Wizard Saints at the time, but he made it sound as if Makarov could just casually one-shot him which I, at least, think wouldn't be the case (as long as he doesn't use Fairy Law..).

Makarov being able to block Jupiter with his arm (although it did injure him..) was a very impressive durability feat at the time, but he was only able to do that using Titan. Which slows him down. Besides, Kagura with her sword sheathed was able to cut through Pre-SO Erza's Adamantine Armor with ease. And that's the same Armor that stopped Jupiter...

Makarov is more versatile than Laxus. That is also very clear. But being more versatile doesn't really give him an edge here.. Erza is even more versatile than Makarov is, but that doesn't make her a god.

And who said Makarov had "immeasurable" Magical Power?

@Godisme -> ... Oh yeah! Definitely! Actually you'd have to add DBZ's verse as well just to make it fair.. ◔_◔