Talk:Acnologia

Acnologia and Gildarts?????
I think the dragon Gildarts told Natsu about when he returned to the guild is Acnologia.--Seeyssimon 02:59, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

That information is on the page already. 03:04, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Water
I think Acnologia is a water dragon.Element opposite to fire.Because there is no water dragon slayer .And also it absorbs water during it's breath.fire and water are oppsite know.(117.216.102.233 08:52, November 30, 2012 (UTC)watch episode 122)

Complete speculation. 08:55, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

IT MIGHT HAVE COMBINATIONAL CAPACITY LIKE "LIGHTNING FLAME DRAGON MODE".SO IT MIGHT HAD ATE BOTH WATER AND UNCONTROLLABLE DARK AURA OF ZEREF.THIS MIGHT TURN IT INTO DRAGON.THAT IS WHY IT WANT REVENGE ON ZEREF .SO IT MIGHT COME TO TENOURJIIMA.SUITABLE NAME

BLACK WATER DRAGON "ACNOLOGIA"("--K.shibi007 (talk) 09:10, November 30, 2012 (UTC)")

Again none of that has been proven its Complete Speculation. 11/30/12 9:13 (UTC)

Black Dragon to Acnologia
I think that it's pretty obvious that the Black Dragon is really Acnologia (or is it just a coincidence that a Black Dragon arrived at Tenrou Island the same time that Zeref senses the approach of Acnologia?). I propose that we rename the page to Acnologia or do you guys want to wait for the next few chapters? 08:19, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

It's speculation that that is the black dragon, it's speculation that it even is a dragon. 12:19, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

If Acnologia is the black dragon, Zeref probably is his dragon slayer (remember the sharp canines)... --Bogota X 14:11, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Probably, but right now it's speculation. 14:13, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Image
Mind adding image as profile? 12:35, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

I'll add it now. I'll be unlocking the page in a few minutes though.

Yay! Because the problem only would've been if the chapter came out at night while we were sleeping. 12:37, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Done, and yep. Since we're both on we can handle any problem if one arises.

Name
Okay, I understand there are two "Acnologia" things in this series. But can we please just give the title "Acnologia" to the dragon and name the spell "Acnologia (spell)" because seriously, typing "Acnologia (Dragon)|Acnologia" is going to get pretty annoying real fast. --Shock Dragoon 19:15, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

We are currently working on renaming the spell. 20:00, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Gender
I just noticed that Acnologia is listed as male. When was it's gender ever confirmed? NoNickNeeded (talk) 17:22, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Try chapter 301. "Amongst them, there was a man who bathed in the blood of dragons. The mere mention of his name is terror itself." Then it goes on to say this man named Acnologia was turned into a great black dragon who called himself The Dragon King. 17:33, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yep, that text bubble starts with the kanji for Otoko (man) in the raw. Thanks for the help. Should we add the reference (Chapter 301, page 13) to the gender in the infobox? NoNickNeeded (talk) 19:09, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * You're free to add it 19:15, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * On my first try, the symbol was replaced by the pure text. The 2nd try made a GIANT male symbol, giant as in a good 600 pixels or so and in the third try, there were suddenly three symbols, each with the reference.... I think I'll leave this one to the more experienced people. NoNickNeeded (talk) 19:36, March 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * It's not about experience, it's just that adding the ref tag interferes with the template. If anyone is curious about where his gender is stated, they can just read this talk page or go back and actually read the manga. 19:41, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

Etymology
Should we add an Etymology section, especially for this guy's page? If so, I'd like to make my suggestion for his name's break down. In this case, Acnologia's name can be romanized from its Katakana as Akunorogia, which can be converted to Aku no Rogia. Rogia, because of the interchangeability of 'L's and 'R's in the japanese language, can be converted to 'Logia'. The word "Logia" is a Greek word from New Testament scholarship that translates roughly as "sayings, utterances, oracles", at least that's what the One Piece wiki says on it's page about Logia fruit. Aku translates from Japanese as Evil or Wickedness.

Since 'No' is a particle denoting ownership, a rough, multilingual translation of Aku no Logia could be "Utterances of Evil", quite fitting given the subject at hand.--Rui Usagi (talk) 16:51, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

Lol that's quite ineteresting, but we do not include that kind of information on the article pages. The only times we include where character names come from is when they are given by Mashima himself or when they come from direct references to something else (ex. Minerva and Bacchus) 16:59, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

Effect on Dragon Slayers
Should we note Acnologia's effect on Dragon Slayers? I mean, all of them do clutch their chests in pain and have a massive increased heartbeat, unlike everyone else. Kamikaze839 23:01, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Not yet, we aren't sure it was Acnologia himself that was the cause, especially since the same didn't occur to Natsu, Wendy and Gajeel on Tenrou Island. Considering what we learned about Igneel in CHapter 400, it's likely related to the other Dragons.--Eternal-Era-Twilight (talk) 23:16, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Definitely seems to be coming from the dragons inside them, not from Acnologia --

But what of Sting and Rogue, who killed their dragons? Kamikaze839 23:34, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Harder to answer for that, but it's likely they were reacting to Igneel as other than Natsu none of the other Dragon Slayers have ever been around him. Its either that, or Sting and Rogue's dragons aren't as dead as we thought they were. Regardless unless its stated that Acnologia was the cause of the Slayers needing to clutch their chests we can't add it. We can't just add speculation to the pages, unless there's actual proof as a reference we can't add it to a page.--Eternal-Era-Twilight (talk) 00:44, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

Mastodonic Dragon?
What is a "mastodonic dragon"? Arawn 999 (talk) 07:00, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Google is an amazing thing. It gives such nice results. 07:06, November 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * OK... I googled "Mastodonic Dragon" and all I got was Acnologia and a ripoff on the Naruto fan wiki that cut-and-paste from this wiki. That said, isn't calling him gargantuan and mastodonic a little redundant? Arawn 999 (talk)
 * Well, tautology can sometimes be pleasing to the eyes, and this is quite trivial. Not much to be bothered about. --Sane Lunatic (talk) 07:11, November 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Ah, yeah it's no good to do that :P It is a little redundant, but I personally don't mind. If it irks you though feel free to remove it~ 07:14, November 3, 2014 (UTC)

Remove the sentence saying Acnologia can't use Dragon Slayer Magic anymore
Acnologia is stated to have lost his Dragon Slayer Magic when he became a dragon, however all of the dragon parents of the 1st Gen and 3rd Gen Dragon Slayers are stated to use Dragon Slayer magic and they were born as dragons. Also when I looked at the reference that states Acnologia lost his ability to use Dragon Slayer magic I didn't see any mention that he lost the ability to use it, and the Dragons themselves were inside their children to make antibodies that would keep them from turning into dragons.

So its likely Zeref didn't have any involvement in turning Acnologia into a Dragon and he transformed simply as the result of his constant slaying as Zirconis had mentioned before, as a result I think we should remove the "Nonetheless, however, Acnologia lost the ability to perform Dragon Slayer Magic." sentence from his magic and abilities section as now it seems quite likely that he can still use it.--Sky-Dragoon-Twilight (talk) 03:52, January 15, 2015 (UTC)

I agree. I don't remember it ever being mentioned that he can't use it. Him not using it on screen is by no means any kind of proof either. NoNickNeeded (talk) 08:34, January 15, 2015 (UTC)

I see no reason why Acnologia cannot employ dragon slaying magic anymore. Dragon Slaying Magic was originally a skill exclusive to the dragons that had to be taught to the humans. Acnologia turned into a dragon as a result of his dragon slaying magic. Furthermore, the language Acnologia used when saying he will kill Igneel was that he would "dragon-slay" him.(Ergo Logos (talk) 12:02, January 15, 2015 (UTC))

You're right. I have looked through the chapters regarding Acnologia several different times, and never was it said that he lost the ability to perform Dragon Slaying Magic. I will put it in the proper section. 14:42, January 15, 2015 (UTC)

Immune to Dragon supremacy Magic
As Future!Rouge says, his magic can controls dragons other than Acnologia that are unaffected, he is unaffected because (if exact words applies) he isn't a dragon but yes a human that is the ultimate example of Trans-human Treachery (gains abnormal powers, backstabs own specie). So this isn't should by a important piece of trivia, "He ins't affected for begin a human in dragon form instead a true dragon". (Ins't speculation for my part. Actually is very obvious). --Dragonempeorslayer (talk) 20:17, January 23, 2016 (UTC)

Check out Magic and Abilities section. Manipulation Immunity basically covers everything you just said. :P
 * Umm I rushed....Anyway, unless explicitly confirmed, it's a speculation. That's all from me. :P


 * Again, is stated the he is unaffected by dragon supremacy magic. But is never stated that he in unaffected by any form of control. So is very probable that he can be affected by some form of mind control except that control specifically dragons, since is never explicitly stated in any source (unless that i have missed some lost word in the page that Rouge says that he ins't affected) i sure that he says that magic instead of any. Also re-reads the main page I sure that is "According to Future Rogue, Acnologia is immune to Dragon Supremacy Magic." So its covers only that magic and don't states others. Again i says because is very oblivious the reason, Dragon supremacy control dragons, Acnologia is a human in dragon form, so do the math. --Dragonempeorslayer (talk) 20:51, January 23, 2016 (UTC)