Talk:Zera

Status
Why is the status unknown? If this was more then 100 years ago, she would be dead... so status should be deceased. M149307 (talk) 03:02, August 18, 2014 (UTC)

We do not speculate with this stuff. 03:36, August 18, 2014 (UTC)

Didn't she die during the first chapter of Fairy Tail Zero? She seems to be an invisible ghost like Mavis is later on. 118.169.39.33 22:56, September 15, 2014 (UTC)curious stuff

That is very likely, but until we get sure confirmation, it'll have to stay on unknown. NoNickNeeded (talk) 22:58, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

The reason her status is unknown is while she survived the events of the first chapter, we don't know what her status is as of the present timeline. While we know Warrod is still alive even after 100 years and Mavis is a ghost its because their current status was shown to us, we haven't seen what happened to Zeira or Yury just yet. So until we get a direct confirmation on their current status they have to be listed as unknown. --Eternal-Era-Twilight (talk) 00:42, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Rename
So with the latest Zero chapter out I think we should rename her to Zera in order for it all to make sense with the whole Zero thing. 15:01, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

What 15:04, June 19, 2015 (UTC)


 * Oh I didn't read the chapter. Brb 15:07, June 19, 2015 (UTC)


 * I agree ( ._.) 15:13, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

I concur. :P 16:14,6/19/2015

If this is about loosing the i and making her Zera, I it too. NoNickNeeded (talk) 16:24, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

According to the translation, the change in the title from "Zero" to "Zera" meant going from "nothing to something", from "0 to A". If that's the intended meaning, then it must also be the intended spelling. Immblueversion (talk) 18:51, June 19, 2015 (UTC)


 * That's most definitely the case. Not sure if you guys noticed, but when you take a look at every chapter cover, starting from chapter 1, the "О" in "Fairy Tail Zero" had been slowly fading until it disappeared in the previous chapter, replaced by "A" - into "Fairy Tail Zera" - in this chapter.  18:59, June 19, 2015 (UTC)
 * OMG!!!!! IT'S TRUE YOU GUYS!!! I didn't even notice that!! >___< 19:04,6/19/2015

This shouldn't even be a discussion. The chapter clearly demonstrates that her name is Zera and makes a big point about why it is Zera. Change it--

Real and Illusion
Split? If yes, how? Treat the illusion as a character like we do for the individual Magic Golems? This case is a bit different in that they are more like Zeref's Demons and operate independently after having being given a single directive while Zera is apparently bound to Mavis. For example, Zera obviously shouldn't be added to the list of Fire Magic users, imo anyway. --Sane Lunatic (talk) 16:48, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with you. Page should be split, but since the older Zera is solely an illusion created by Mavis, she should not be treated like a regular character imo. An example of how that makes a difference would be, as you said, to remove her from the list of Fire Magic users. She is basically a thought-projection anyway, she should be properly written and explained as such.

Essentially what Wonder just said because I don't think she should be treated as a regular character either. Mavis is the one who created the illusion of her, after all. :P

No. I vehemently disagree with the split, as I did with Zirconis (and still do). Zera is still Zera and having two pages for the same character is quite silly, when there are no issues like with Future Lucy. The illusion Zera also referred to her "dead version" as "I" not, "she" or "the real Zera" or whatever. They still have the same mentality and everything. I don't see why we can't just condense all the info about one and the same character on the same page, is it hard to say that Zera was this girl that died and was afterwards made into Mavis' illusion? Is it a problem to have two profile images, the kid one and the illusion one? Is it really an issue to have a History section about a kid Zera that died, and then a Synopsis section about the reanimated one?

I just don't understand the need to have two pages for what is one person when there is no confusion like with two Lucy's acting at the same time. If I was your usual wiki visitor and wanted to look up Zera, I definitely wouldn't be happy with her info being all over the place, especially when it comes to a relatively minor character. Thus, I the split. 17:06, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

I'm on the fence on this but I dividing the page as well. It can be argued that dead Zera is not just an illusion created by Mavis, it's the spirit of alive Zera (as shown at the end of FT0). As such, it's like asking to divide FT0 + Flashbacks Mavis and ghost Mavis. Or pre and post-death Hades. I just don't see a point to it. 17:13,9/10/2015
 * Somebody please explain whether she is an illusion or a Spirit! Please! D: --Sane Lunatic (talk) 17:25, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

As Misk has already said, it makes little to no sense to have two separate pages for Zera when the illusion one, Mavis and a lot of readers thought that she was the same Zera as the child Zera. It's ludicrous, and it also creates a precedent for anons or users new to the site to stumble upon unwanted spoilers more easily. Yes they take that risk when they come to a wiki, but they might just want the Kanji whilst midway through FTZ, to give an example, and shouldn't be spoiled for wanting a little bit of info. As far as I'm concerned, child Zera and illusory Zera are the same character, not the same person, the same character which is all that should matter in this issue. 17:17, September 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Would you say that the Zero created by Midnight and the Brain lying dead just a few feet away are the same character? Because the real Zera is busy decomposing while the illusion plays around with Mavis for seven years. :/ --Sane Lunatic (talk) 17:25, September 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Brain? 17:30, September 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Whoops, then. .-. Guess I'll enter the Azuma and Zancrow anime-filler stuff in the same format that Rustyrose's was done. ._./ And, if Brain has that, then no need for the page to be split. Although, imo, Brain shouldn't have that stuff anyway. --Sane Lunatic (talk) 17:34, September 10, 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I admit. I jumped to a conclusion which is a bad thing and I apologize for that. Now, seeing a lot of solid arguments against the split, I'm going to as well. Zera and her illusion are one and the same character and all of that can be put in a single article without the need of complicating things and splitting the page for the same character in 2 parts.

I'll strike my former vote, at least for now. Before I make a decision, can someone please explain whether the older Zera is just an illusion/thought-projection or the dead spirit of her true self? Because people are contradicting each other here... :/

Zera died. That fact is not debateable. The Zera that lived with Mavis on Tenrou Island for 7 years was an illusion. That fact is not debateable. An illusion of someone is not that person. That fact is not debateable. So why exactly do we have them on the same page like they are the same people? If Mavis created an illusion of Natsu with her Magic, that illusion wouldn't be Natsu. It would be an illusion of him. This isn't rocket science people. 17:41,9/10/2015