Talk:Hades

Eyepatch
if you look closely you can see there's another black line coming out of that direction. so hades probably has an eyepatch

Name
His title name should still be Hades because that's how we learned him by. Similar to how Hoteye of the Oracion Seis is not called "Richard". Horologium4 19:51, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

holy cray Hades is stronger than Makarov totally Hades is just amazing he is probelly one of strongest dark mages in the world he is freaken powerful.User: Dmala13 27th of December 15:00

Um, I just saw this, but all of Hades's magic and abilities section has been removed.User:Ash9876

Useless Trivia
A hobby of mine is searching character pages for junk trivia and I found a couple of Trivia points on this page to be, in my opinion, junk trivia, and I would like to delete them. But of course I would like to get everyone elses feedback on them before I deleted them.

1. "Like the Hades from the God Of War series, he also uses chains with grappling hooks as his primary form of attack."

I don't think this is very interesting Trivia, also I don't really see the point of making a reference to another series, unless it is another one by Mashima himself.

2. "Hades is very old. At the time of handing Fairy Tail over to Makarov, 48 years ago, he was pictured as an old man, who looked to be roughly in his 60s-70s. This would put him at well over 100 years old in current time."

This statement is not only guessing at his age, but it's something that can be found out by reading the article.

3. "He was the first character in the series that defeated Makarov in a fair and square battle, making him the most powerful mage in the series to date (besides Zeref)."

This trivia point is a contradiction within itself, It states that he is the most powerful mage in the series, then right afterwards It's states that the statement doesn't include Zeref, If he isn't the most powerful then this shouldn't be listed.

4. "Hades and Brain both picked certain select individuals and trained them to be the best and main force of their guilds."

This isn't a very interesting Trivia point to me, it seems like Junk Trivia at best.

5. "Given that he taught the Seven Kin of Purgatory their magic, it is highly probable that he himself knows all their magic."

This statement is a contradiction to what is said in his abilities section which states "Assuming Hades was the one who personally trained the Seven Kin of Purgatory in Lost Magic, then he must have a vast knowledge on a variety of magics." His abilities section states that him teaching the Seven Kin is an assumption and this trivia point says that he did teach it to them, so I believe it should be deleted.

If anyone has any objections to me deleting one or all of these trivia points, please explain why, of course I won't delete EVEN ONE trivia point until I have everyone's opinion on it. --Iam... JakuhoRaikoben 06:55, February 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Firstly, you have an odd hobby, and secondly, I would just get rid of them if I were you, you already did more than what is recommended and that was to explain your deletion, I would certainly not wait for everyone to not object, unless you count the complete lack of objections there is no as everyone not objecting. felinoel  ~  (Talk)  07:24, February 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * I too dislike random/useless trivia. I'll delete some for now, and see how it goes.. Horologium4 07:33, February 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * I too dislike random/useless trivia. I'll delete some for now, and see how it goes.. Horologium4 07:33, February 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think you should just delete all those examples... felinoel  ~  (Talk)  07:50, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. --Iam... JakuhoRaikoben 14:19, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Hades=Odin
I think Hades might have some kinda character significance to the Norse god, Odin. i mean one of his eyes are gone and he does look like a stereotypical odin type character. i mean he even looks like the yugioh rendition of odin. plus, hades is kinda like a play on words cause hades would be king of hell while odin is the king of the gods in norse. --Imhungry4444 16:54, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

He probably does but it can't be put in the article since it's speculation and some people might not see the similarities. 18:16, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Where is it?
Where is his Grimore Heart/Fairy Tail mark?Chanim Michaelis 00:48, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

Trivia addition?
I'm not 100% clear on what the admins of this wiki (I'm usually at another wiki) like for trivia, but I'm surprised that there has been no note that Hades' appearance under the influence of his eye looks almost completely like Shakuma, a villain from Mashima's previous work of Rave Master.--Nintendogeek01 01:23, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

We allow those kinds of trivia AS LONG as it's worded right. 02:34, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

Actually no we don't. We allow cross character comparisons only if they are the exact character like Plue. "Looks like" doesn't fit the bill.

Really? Well I don't know who is Shakuma or anything from Rave so I wouldn't know. 02:40, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

Lol, you're an Admin Reli, learn these things! I haven't seen Rave either...

How do you know Shakuma's last name isn't Hades?! Huh?! 02:43, April 25, 2012 (UTC)

Because it's Raregroove!! Ha!!

Devil's Heart and Co
Hey folks.

Is it safe to place Hades' physical skills below the section regarding the Devil's Heart, as if his strength and speed derived from it? As far as we know, only Hades' seeming invincibility and his longevity stemmed from it. In addition, Grimoire Heart's Master continued to show considerable strength after the Heart's destruction, sending Natsu crashing away with a simple palm strike (and I doubt he has the same Magic as Bacchus...).

If you ask me, we should seperate the sections, leaving only Immense Durability (which maybe might be given a more fitting name, or be paired with an Enhanced/Immense Longevity section, don't know) under the Devil's Heart.

On a side note... That Transform One Magic to Another that the anime created is hideous. Couldn't we just refer to it as Darkness Magic?

-- 14:12, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, but that palm strike doesn't configure an "Immense Strength" in my view. It's just a normal strength in Fairy Tail's terms. However, while possessing the Devil's Heart, he was much more stronger and experienced fighter. And I agree with it being Darkness Magic. 14:24,7/21/2012

I didn't say it configured an Immense Strength. What I'm saying is that assuming that Hades' physical skills stemmed from the Heart is mere speculation. The Heart was stated to be the source of Hades' Magic and longevity, there was no mention of physical skills. Besides, experience? Hades' experience remains in any case, Heart or not. It would be like saying that a veteran who loses his sword is no longer an experienced fighter.

-- 16:25, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with DaRinor. It's speculation. 16:33,7/21/2012


 * Yeah, it would be like saying that Siberian hamsters are bound to rule the world because of that black line running from their head to their tail.


 * -- 16:36, July 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * >_> I've known you for months and yet, I'm still surprised by your randomness XD. 16:39,7/21/2012


 * Imma chargin' Malaysia!


 * -- 16:42, July 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see you point. Sounds good to me then. 12:11,7/25/2012

Yeah, I agree with DaRinor... The Enhanced Reflexes is also not from the Devil's Heart but from experience in combat... Transform One Magic to Another to Darkness Magic  18:56, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

And on a side note, I think Hades should be given Immense Reflexes/Agility instead of merely Enhanced. He avoided blows from two fast characters clad in a speed-enhancing aura, and was also able to duck melee and ranged assaults from an even faster character.

-- 07:29, July 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. 13:22,7/27/2012

Then if none has something to argue (helloooooo? What bout closing a discussion which has only received support?), I'll proceed to update the page.

-- 13:29, July 27, 2012 (UTC)