Talk:Tenrou Island

Volume 24 Name Change
Alright, so after reading Vol. 24, it seems there is only 1 major difference from what is on our wiki to what Kodansha has published. That change would be the island's name. Tenrou Island has become Sirius Island.

Excerpt from "Translation Notes" in Vol 24:

Page 101, Sirius Island The Japanese name for the island is Tenrô-jima ("Heaven Wolf Island,") but Tenrô is also the name for the Dog Star of the heavens, Sirius''

Everyone's thoughts? 18:14, March 22, 2013 (UTC)

That sounds horrible, in my opinion... 18:15, March 22, 2013 (UTC)

Ewww... 18:17, March 22, 2013 (UTC)

So glad Kondasha doesn't have the note that says Mashima gave them the name :P 19:12, March 22, 2013 (UTC)

What Reli said. 19:12, March 22, 2013 (UTC)

Blegh. The only Sirius I like is Sirius Black. 19:14,3/22/2013 19:14, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Lol, that exactly what I thought when I saw this 19:15, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * I was just telling another user that's what I thought of as well xD 19:21, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm glad we all think alike, lol. 19:22,3/22/2013 19:22, March 22, 2013 (UTC)

Absolutely no D: 19:56,3/22/2013

Ron: HARRY!! Dumbledore's been in some sort of accident!! Harry: OH NO! Was it serious!? Ron: ... No... It was Snape ( .__.) 00:09, March 23, 2013 (UTC)

I almost read that as Sitrus Island for some reason... I blame pokemon... 01:14, March 23, 2013 (UTC)

How about no. 01:18, March 23, 2013 (UTC)

Carry: Kyahahaha look at me, I'm trying to steal Herme's role in the Wiki!! Herme: AhahahahaNO. 01:20,3/23/2013

Just no.. 04:43, March 23, 2013 (UTC)

You can't be Sirius.

As much as I love English names, no. Tenroujima sounds way better than Sirius Island. But its true that the very first animals introduced on the island were wolves. -- 11:01, March 23, 2013 (UTC)

It sounds horrible! >___>

↑ I support what the users said. ↑

Volume 27 Fauna names
So, with the release of Volume 27, within the bonus pages, "The Bestiary of Sirius Island" is also translated, and gives us the Kodansha names for the animals living on Tenrou. I didn't want to have to open a discussion on each of their pages because that'd be tedious but I feel like some of these names are valid changes, so here they are.
 * 1) Rollidillo > Goromajiro (retains its japanese name)
 * 2) Doscasaurus > Doscadon
 * 3) Curily > Quly
 * 4) Clipper (retains its name; no change)
 * 5) Hodras > Budragos
 * 6) Kubina Gamaru > Cubina Gamal
 * 7) Backsye > Bakshi
 * 8) Tenrou Squirrel > Sirius Squirrel (to situate to the Kodansha translation of the island)

Sound off. 02:57, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

I don't see a reason to change anything 03:07, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

03:07,8/19/2013
 * 1) / Where the fuck did Rollidillo come from? O_O I'm leaning towards supporting the change, but I'll remain neutral until I learn the reason behind "Rollidillo".
 * 2) / Once again, leaning towards support, but will remain neutral until I know where the hell Doscasaurus came from.
 * 3) Quly seems more accurate based on the katakana... but I'm no expert. >_>
 * N/A
 * 1) / Once again, leaning towards support, but will remain neutral until I know where the hell Budragos came from.
 * 2) Either is fine with me.
 * 3) Backsye is hard to spell and pronounce. >_>
 * 4) We decided not to go with Sirius Island, so calling it a Sirius Squirrel would be retarded.
 * # 6 is Cubina, Rai :P so I'm not sure if you voted correctly for #'s 6 and 7 or not 03:15, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * 6 & 7 should be switched. 03:20,8/19/2013

@Reli Look at the katakana for all the animals, and you will. :P 03:08,8/19/2013

B— But those were all the translations we got from the almighty Chaos itself. I trust Chaos You don't deserve to be his creation Rai 03:13, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Firstly, silence!! I trust my Mapa's translation better than any of you whores! With that being said, me forgot that Mapa was the one who provided these translations. ( ._.) *runs away in shame* 03:20,8/19/2013

They all sound dumb--

I only The rest can go away forever. 03:23, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

Please acknowledge that voting for name changes does not mean Chaos' translations are invalid or wrong. These were translated by Kodansha themselves and as we have seen through their translations, the english names may not exactly correlate to their japanese name. However, since we are the Fairy Tail wiki, we are to assess each difference and discuss each name as they appear on official media. So yeah, keep in mind that discussions like these are not meant to tarnish Chaos' efforts in translating for our wiki. Thanks! <3 03:29, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Worry not, Nei-Chan. No one thinks that. Me and Reli were just whoring around. ;D 03:32,8/19/2013


 * Yup, because I like Rolldillo :P 03:34, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think it should be Rolladillo though. ( ._.) 03:36, August 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * why? 03:40, August 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Because Armadillo is spelled with an "A" and that is half the pun. 03:42, August 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * True dat :P 03:45, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

Number 2 and 7. 06:39, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

 but. 21:32, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

 Damn. They all suck. DX

i -- 00:56, August 20, 2013 (UTC)

The Great Tenrou Tree isn't just enhancing all the Fairy Tail mages' magic power, but it also replenishes their magic power. This is seen in the scene where the Great Tenrou Tree was originally disrupted and forced into the water, but then due to Ultear acting as part of Crime Sorciere, she used her magic to cause the Great Tenrou Tree to resurface back onto the water surface/ground level.

Name change, Round 2
Much like a how second vote for how to spell Yuri Dreyar's name was held after Episode 266 used what is now the Wiki's current spelling, I suggest re-opening a vote here after Episode 267 used "Sirius Island", the translation used in Episode 267, and the one that was almost unanimously rejected upon its first use in the official translation of Volume 24, mostly on the basis of how dumb everyone thought it sounded. As mentioned before, the word "Tenrou" (天狼), literally meaning "Heavenly Wolf", is actually the Japanese name of, the Dog Star. It's not quite as subtle as changing a "Y" to an "I", but because it's what's consistently used in the manga and anime now, it only seems fair to give this another shot. Immblueversion (talk) 21:31, January 19, 2016 (UTC)

Sirius Island

 * 1) It just sounds like it fits the world. Immblueversion (talk) 21:31, January 19, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) I honestly think we should only be leaving things left untranslated if they have some sort of historical, archaic context surrounding them, like Ezel's swords, which mean nothing outside of Japanese (literally, they mean gibberish). Every language has their own word for Sirius, and I'm probably going to be the only other person who supports this change, but I don't see why it should get special treatment. The reason the internet continues to use Tenrou Island or Tenroujima in the place of Sirius Island is because ultimately, we never changed it here. Sure, the scanlators used it first, but if we had stopped using it then ultimately so would they. I mean, look at all the stuff scanlators have taken from us in the past in regards to names. We don't leave spell names untranslated; we don't have characters whose names are written as they appear in romaji; I'm kinda lost as to why this gets special treatment because it's...what? Fairy Tail's 'holy ground'? Even Japan now calls it Sirius Island, on top of the American publishers. So we are not calling it Sirius Island because why?  21:42, January 19, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) I absolutely despise the sound of 'Sirius Island', but, as much as I hate to say it, I agree with Immblue and Wrath's arguments. Literally, if there were any legitimate arguments against this change, I would be opposing, but as things stands, I'mma have to say I support. Regrettably... if this goes through though, does it mean that we also change the names of other articles i.e Team Tenrou and Tenrou Jade?
 * 4) Right now, the only reason to keep Tenrou Island is personal preference. If all previous names given in the anime since Sun Village are accepted as the correct ones (did Lamy/Lummy escape this? I don't remember which name was given), we don't have an excuse for not using Sirius Island. Enpai (talk) 22:26, January 19, 2016 (UTC)
 * 5) Nothing stopping us from colloquially referring to it as Tenrou Island, but for the sake of it being 'proper' might as well rename it. Oh, and might be an idea to have a redirect link to it as people may still search for Tenrou Island in the search bar.  10:06, January 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * 6) A redirect is almost always left in such cases, Dex. In this case, there'll definitely be a redirect. No worries there. /o/ --Sane Lunatic (talk) 15:17, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

@WU. Yes, they would become Team Sirius and the Sirius Jade. Tenrou Soldier would also become Sirius Soldier and Heavenly Wolf would become Sirius...though if I may say, I have no idea why it's "heavenly wolf" when "heavenly wolf is quite literally Sirius, the dog star. For argument's sake, it should have remained plain Tenrou, but whatever. >_> 22:20, January 19, 2016 (UTC)
 * Comments
 * Yeah okay, I see. Cheers for clarifying that m8.
 * With this in mind, it bugs me to no end that the official English dub calls it "Tenrou Island" despite otherwise sticking to a non-Japanese terminology. But maybe they'll acknowledge the difference to some degree when they start releasing the Fairy Tail Zero dub, kind of like they did with the Ultear/Urtear discrepancy (to paraphrase, "Ur was my mother's name. The name 'Urtear' died with her.").
 * On a semi-related note, maybe we should change Garou Knights as well? Immblueversion (talk) 00:19, January 20, 2016 (UTC)

Tenrou Island

 * 1) NO NO NO NO NO NO! DON'T DO IT PLEASEEEE! OMFG WHAT ARE U GUYS DOING????? MiraMajin (talk) 00:30, January 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * 2) I dont like it, it's way too ... liberal translation in my eyes. Many sources not only leave it as 'Tenrou Island', but even 'Tenroujima' in their translation. Not everything needs an English equivalent.  12:58, January 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * 3) I've been used to reading the official kodansha Volumes and even that didn't make me refer to the Island by Sirius so... Yeah, it's mostly bias(coz I adore the Island and all) but hey, it has worked all this time and I feel the effect is lost in translation in the first place. I know we've used different translations before, but this series uses non-Japanese words(often written in katakana for Jap viewers) in conjunction with usual Japanese, so keeping it mixed is acceptable. // Ultimately though, we are a wiki, and we need consistency; after all, we've left the actual wording for other Islands and locations in the Romaji after translating completely to English. I mean, we could have left Sun Village as Taiyou Village technically(because Sun has multiple readings) but this would be a matter only for speakers of Japanese since the whole point of the name is to convey 'heat'. Similarly, Tenrou conveys Wolf in a Celestial sense and saying Sirius also fits that. Still.... BIAS. -- 13:33, January 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * 4) --Goblin King - 3000 B.C., Keeper of Evil Squirrels 15:10, January 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * 5) I didn't know what side to take but thinking about it Sirius feels too liberal with the translation... we should put Sirius Island being a name or something in the trivia  16:54, January 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * 6) What Misk said x1000. 17:05,1/20/2016


 * Comments
 * For those saying "Sirius Island" is too liberal a translation of Tenrō-jima (a name consisting of two words that mean "Sirius" and "Island"), what does that make "Fire Dragon's Roar" as a translation of Karyū no Hōkō? Would you prefer "Karyuu's Roar" or "Fire Dragon's Houkou"? Immblueversion (talk) 17:29, January 20, 2016 (UTC)