Talk:Lucy Heartfilia/Archive 1

Miss Fairy Tail Contest
Is it necessary to put that Lucy came in second during the "Miss Fairy Tail" contest? I'm OK with it but, is it?

I know this is old, but for the sake of closing all these old discussions, not necessary, but it is info that fans may want to know, just like on Erza's page it says she's first, and Juvia's says she is third. Iam... JakuhoRaikoben 14:55, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Profile info
Can I add these things?

Favourite Colour: Blue

Favourite type of guy: One who is assertive

If you were to compare your self to an animal, what would it be?: A rabbit

Interests: Reading, Shopping, Cooking

How do you spend a holiday?: Buying novels going out

Residence: Hibiscus Street

Blood Type: AB

Measurements: B86 W58 H87

Approximate

--Inferuno Ryuu 15:55, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Where did you read this? Does this apply to Lucy...? Baithin 18:13, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

It appeared in the maanga. Which chapter I'm not sure but if I had to guess it was 60 to 80. In the Tower of Paradise arc. One of the starter pages. And yes it does.--Inferuno Ryuu 18:20, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Well I'm pretty sure her measurements and stuff are there, but this seems like stuff that can go under Lucy's trivia or her personality. Baithin 18:34, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

i don't know if i'm right but, Isn't her age 17??? it said that on her guild card.

Whip
-Does anyone know what the type of whip that Lucy uses is called? I cant seem to find a refferance, cause of that damn spade tip. -- Shadowsol93 03:38, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

-Any Details on Lucy's new whip? Btw did she lose her old one? -- oOoXENAoOo 12:20, May 19, 2010

-She doesn't seem to use it at all anymore, but she still has her original one. - WhiteArmor - (Talk) - 16:42, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Well Lucy probably uses a form of bullwhip, becouse it's handle is permanently attached to the long part called "body". Her handle isn't also very long and thick and it is entwined by skin, so is's probably Indy bull whip. That "damne spade tip" is colled cracker(Australia) or popper (USA) and could have a diffrent shapes, but it must break the sound barrier to generate a characteristic whip sound. Ishthak 10:49, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

-I believe that in the wiki it's stated that the Fleuve d'étoiles is made of water. i believe that is incorrect instead its made of blue light which seems to share characteristics of water in the way it moves only. --nighthack

Gallery
Ishthak, I know you've done a lot by getting images for Erza's and Lucy's photo galleries, but don't you think this is a little too much? - WhiteArmor - (Talk) - 14:56, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Problem solved, I've created the Bonus Gallery so images that take up space can be kept. - WhiteArmor - (Talk) - 20:50, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's a brilliant idea ^^ Ishthak 21:00, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. - WhiteArmor - (Talk) - 15:43, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Profile image
Thanks for the new image, the old one bothered me 'cause it wasn't from the anime. - WhiteArmor - (Talk) - 18:22, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

Guys, do we really need to change the image every time an episode comes out? -Chitalian8 20:41, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know who change it :/ I will put it once again Ishthak 12:52, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Why don't we just put profile images for the characters that describe their personality?

Sexy Strategy clothes on cover of chapter 162
It looks a lot like it though... - WhiteArmor - (Talk) - 05:24, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

I know... but a lot doesn't mean it's the same... ChaosKnight 05:32, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

What are you talking about???

Fight list
when we list her fights, should we include her spirits? Cause theyre just her magic

No I don't think thats necassary, like you said its her magic, so I don't think you should.

Jewel rate
Who can confirm that 1000 jewel is $10? Otherwise I'd rather remove that note, because it's baseless guessing. --Anthonie 20:18, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

It is confirmed on the first volume of the Official English Version of Fairy Tail that 100 Jewels is approximately $1 US. ChaosKnight 21:53, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

Its true.

Relationships
Should we put a separate page for her relationships? Since it is taking up a lot of space in her page. Blissfully Disturbed 13:46, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

i think so, thats what was done with Erza, Natsu, Gray, and Gajeels. Lucys looks big as well71.187.22.203 13:51, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. She is one of the main characters, and if the others have seperate pages I don't see why she shouldn't. EeLgIrL (^.^) 01:46, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Loke vs Caprico
 Since Loke is Lucy's spirit, is his win counted for Lucy's too?

No, Loke fought with his own Magic Power, and without the help of Lucy so even though she is his Celestial Spirit Mage, she was in no way apart of the fight, hope this helps. Iam... JakuhoRaikoben 14:57, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Lucy's Bra?
It states in her appearance section that she doesn't wear a bra, can I get a reference on this. I will be forced to delete this statement if no one can tell me where it's from. Thanks in advance. 00:06, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Remove it. She does wear a bra as shown on chapter 22. Chaos Knight -{E-mail}  03:44, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Done. Iam... JakuhoRaikoben  03:49, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Magic
In her page it only states she use Holder Magic(celestial spirits) but not caster(unison raid and uranometria). Should it be change to state that she uses both holder and caster.? Rauleli 17:32, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah.  Iam... <span style="padding-right:2px; color:gold; background-color:black; border-top-right-radius:1ex; border-bottom-right-radius:1ex; -moz-border-radius-topright:1ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:4ex;cursor:help;" title="Leave Me A Message">JakuhoRaikoben  17:43, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

are you going to do it or should I?

I'll do it right now, sorry for the delay. <span style="border: 2px solid black; border-top-left-radius:1ex; border-bottom-left-radius:1ex; -moz-border-radius-topleft:1ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:3ex;"><span style="padding-left:2px; color:black; background-color:gold; border-top-left-radius:1ex; border-bottom-left-radius:1ex; -moz-border-radius-topleft:1ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:4ex;cursor:help;" title="IamJakuhoRaikoben"> Iam... <span style="border: 2px solid black; border-top-right-radius:1ex; border-bottom-right-radius:1ex; -moz-border-radius-topright:1ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:3ex;"><span style="padding-right:2px; color:gold; background-color:black; border-top-right-radius:1ex; border-bottom-right-radius:1ex; -moz-border-radius-topright:1ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:4ex;cursor:help;" title="Leave Me A Message">JakuhoRaikoben  22:39, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

That's fine. I was about to do it when you did it. lol Rauleli 22:43, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Horologium
Anyone else noticed this in ep 73, Lucy's magic seal is different Rauleli 03:25, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yep, that's Lucy's magic seal, we have it on the article already. <span style="border: 2px solid black; border-top-left-radius:1ex; border-bottom-left-radius:1ex; -moz-border-radius-topleft:1ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:3ex;"><span style="padding-left:2px; color:black; background-color:gold; border-top-left-radius:1ex; border-bottom-left-radius:1ex; -moz-border-radius-topleft:1ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:4ex;cursor:help;" title="IamJakuhoRaikoben"> Iam... <span style="border: 2px solid black; border-top-right-radius:1ex; border-bottom-right-radius:1ex; -moz-border-radius-topright:1ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:3ex;"><span style="padding-right:2px; color:gold; background-color:black; border-top-right-radius:1ex; border-bottom-right-radius:1ex; -moz-border-radius-topright:1ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:4ex;cursor:help;" title="Leave Me A Message">JakuhoRaikoben  03:28, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

No its different than her usual magic seal, the center is different Rauleli 03:31, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

O they are different, well the magic seals are anime only so the animators probably made a mistake on the episode 73 magic seal. <span style="border: 2px solid black; border-top-left-radius:1ex; border-bottom-left-radius:1ex; -moz-border-radius-topleft:1ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:3ex;"><span style="padding-left:2px; color:black; background-color:gold; border-top-left-radius:1ex; border-bottom-left-radius:1ex; -moz-border-radius-topleft:1ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:4ex;cursor:help;" title="IamJakuhoRaikoben"> Iam... <span style="border: 2px solid black; border-top-right-radius:1ex; border-bottom-right-radius:1ex; -moz-border-radius-topright:1ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:3ex;"><span style="padding-right:2px; color:gold; background-color:black; border-top-right-radius:1ex; border-bottom-right-radius:1ex; -moz-border-radius-topright:1ex; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:4ex;cursor:help;" title="Leave Me A Message">JakuhoRaikoben  03:35, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

I just noticed that thats Angel's magic seal, so they probably did just made a mistake.(and btw i know its anime only :P) Rauleli 03:40, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

Silver keys has a different magic seal of gold keys. [sorry for bad english]

i am Tommy chandra its diffrent magic seal because lucy have a golden keys and silver,its diffrent i have noticed it for a long time since episode 1 i want to tell that but i cant*because im not the member of fairy tail wikia

Data
Since this has been popping up on different websites and now the German FT wikia... I thought I've been reading the manga pretty thoroughly, but where exactly does her blood type and date of birth appear in Chapter 85 ? There's no information on her at all. -- [ defchris ] · [ Diskussion ] · 18:15, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

I have read the Manga many times and I haven't heard of that information...

Cover of Chapter 85, magazine version only. <font color="#000000">Chaos <font color="#FFFFFF">Knight -<font color="#000000">{E-mail}  00:41, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Lucy's Full Name
Lucy's Full Name is Lucinda "Lucy" Heartfilia.--RisaPlayer88 00:20, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

If that information is true, care to submit the source so that other people can check it.

Synopsis Update Needed...
Two things, the synopsis needs to be updated, and some detail against Hades needs to be trimmed down. Please and thank you. <font color="#000000">Chaos <font color="#FFFFFF">Knight -<font color="#000000">{E-mail}  07:03, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

How many nicknames does Lucy have? I know that some of her spirits call her by different names.Taurus refers to her as his "Nice Body" and Loke had called her albeit comically his "love".

Other Magic
I just wanted to say that Lucy can also make her magic somehow make fireworks using a key, shown in the Fairy Tail farewell ceremony held by Erza for Sho, Milliana and Wally on episode 41 ("HOME").64.231.191.89 01:08, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yup, I'll somehow try to add it to the Celestial Spirit Magic page 19:10, September 22, 2011 (UTC)

Animation eror?!
guys i noticed in this picture of lucy that both her arms are straight down and u can see an arm is writing but u cant see her elbow. <span style="padding-left:6px; background-color:gold; border:3px inset silver; "> Animaltamer7

It only looks like that because the uploaded picture is cut-off at the end. In the actual episode, you can see both of her elbows are bent, so it is not an animation error. I'll upload a new version of it to clear up the confusion. 06:45, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

EDIT: It's done. 06:52, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

thanks <span style="padding-left:6px; background-color:gold; border:3px inset silver; "> Animaltamer7

Lucy Fire
Lucy Fire's skill may be mistranslated. Particularly Hissatsu, which means Certain Kill, I don't know about the first syllable, but satsu means kill. Ougi means Secret Attack/Tecnique. Don't mean to sound rude or anything, it just caught my attention is all.

Talk to Chaos. And always sign your posts.

Ops, sorry about that :X<font color="#4496FC" face="Papyrus">Zikimura (<font color="#808080" face="Georgia">Bring It!!! ) 21:40, May 27, 2012 (UTC)Zikimura

Age
Should her age be changed? Disregarding the seven years that she was in stasis, her birthday has passed since Fairy Sphere ended. Her birthday is listed as July 1st, and the current date in the manga is July 3rd, so should her new age be listed?--98.22.69.12 23:24, July 8, 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm I guess so, however, when they disappeared it was December, but when they returned 7 years later, they came 3 months before the GMG, which means April. So there would be 4 months left, but that wouldn't really be her birthday. this is complicated -__- 02:01, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, she was in the spirit world for three months, so physically, she would be seventeen years, five months, and around three weeks old. I was just curious if we should count her as being eighteen since her birthday did pass in the story while she was not in any kind of stasis. --98.22.69.12 20:23, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Future Lucy
Future Lucy will become an important character and her storyline need to be somewhere. I think that she should have her own page. What do all of you think? Martios (talk) 04:50, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

Well, they are two different characters with different roles, but the same person... Hmm. I think that a new article would be the best option. Lets see what the others think. However, we can just do what was done with Levy; add it to the end of the page. But then again, Lucy's article will keep increasing. Gah >_> I dunno T^T. 04:55, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

Why? You can just say "Lucy meets her future self and blah blah blah". No need for a separate article. 05:04, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah but are we going to do it for both, double summary? o.O "Lucy meets her future self" "Future Lucy meets Past Lucy" I dunno ._. 05:07, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

No, if she goes back to the past later on the series, then we just won't add it, just say that she went to the past. Also, I'm 99.9% it won't happen because, obviously, Mashima won't show everything again :\ do you get what I'm saying? 05:10, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

But future Lucy did some stuff present Lucy did not. Like Meet Jellal and stalk the guild. Cuz present Lucy will not go back into the past like future Lucy did, and do all of those stuff, since that will mean the whole arc repeating itself. :P 05:15, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

Huh you confused me now. But the main point is: where things like Future Lucy meeting Jellal, Future Lucy talking to Hisui, Future Lucy fighting (?), Future Lucy explaining her story and etc will go? To which article? She will have an important role here. Martios (talk) 05:17, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

hmmm now I see the problem. We can't have Lucy doing two things at the same time. Hmmm... I don't think creating another article for her would be a good idea, but I don't see us having another choice. Let's have this discussion open for a few days so that we can get as much ideas on what to do as possible 05:20, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

Aye, good idea http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/maoyu/images/7/7a/Boogie.gif. 05:22, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

How about create a seperate article with the name 'future' or something in brackets who appeared in the GMG arc. I don't know if I make much sense though..:/.

05:47, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

I say we just create an article entitled "Lucy (Future)." It's the simplest method and makes the most sense. 06:01,1/6/2013
 * ^   06:09, January 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * I was talking about that before, and is the name better with her surname "Lucy Heartfilia (Future)". 06:15, January 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * :3


 * 07:52, January 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't think the same character should receive two different articles just because of some time-travelling issues. After all, Fairy Tail isn't a series focused on time travels and involving different copies of the same individuals, so I'm betting the whole thing is fleeting, and I'm sure it can be solved on a single page.


 * 08:57, January 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Then where do you suppose we add the appearence of the 'future' Lucy. We don't know much about the character yet, but she knows the aftermath of the GMG. 09:48, January 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Maybe a proper new section. That can be discussed. I simply don't think the Lucy should have two separate pages, since it's always her we're talking about.


 * 09:52, January 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree with Alda. Plus, Future Lucy has yet to do anything notable enough to warrant an entire page for her. I wouldn't be at a huge loss if I didn't find anything about her in our wiki, but if we must integrate her info, we can create some sort of a section for Lucy or include all of Future Lucy's interactions in the bottom of the GMG section, and once this arc ends, if there is enough info, then a seperate page can be made... 15:22, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

Hmm yes, I've been wondering how this would be handled when I was adding an image of Future Lucy to Lucy's gallery, since it'll obviously create a lot of confusion. Thus, I either a new article or a separate section. If needed, it can be merged with normal Lucy/Grand Magic Games arc section once the arc ends and we find out everything related to her since she won't stay with them forever, right? o.o 10:23, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

If we create a new article, it would have the same personality section, same history, trivia, relationships, M&A, etc. We'd just have an article that is a copy of Lucy's current one. Having a section for Lucy (Future) seems like a better idea. Or we could also just say something like "meanwhile Lucy was watching the Games, Jella found Lucy's future self ans she revealed herself to him". 15:42, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

It would be to confuse both in the same article. New article = Best option. :P 15:52,1/6/2013
 * We aren't voting yet. We want opinions. Voting will be opened later 15:54, January 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * What about all those up there? Aren't they votes? :P


 * 16:06, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
 * Nope. They shouldn't count because they voted before hearing all of the options. 16:14, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

I do agree that creating 2 pages for the same character sounds odd, but either we like it or not, the Present Lucy and the Future Lucy are different beings in the current storyline. I think that it should be handled with 2 pages for now, and later, when this time travel thing is over, it can be merged in a proper article.

Also, the things Rauleli mentioned aren't necessary the same, because the course of time could have changed it all. Future Lucy do share the same background with the Present Lucy, but she experienced more things after GMG. Her article could have only those facts that happened after GMG, or a complete version including Lucy's past + new facts. Her personality could have passed through changes due to seeing friends dying (that we dont know yet), same for her relationships (married to Natsu? xd).

The fact is that, although she seems a boring character by now, she has a lot of story to share yet. And Lucy's article will be a mess. Where would we insert the events that happened between GMG and Future Lucy's current time? Present Lucy didnt experience it, so it cant go to her "History". Also, the events she will tell wont happen on the storyline, it will be via flashbacks, so it cant go to "Synopsis".

Sorry for the long text. Martios (talk) 16:27, January 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * You got my vote, Martios. for the new article.  20:00,1/6/2013

So... We're creating Future Lucy or not? x_x 02:01,1/11/2013

Look, it's like the Edolas. Well Edolas characters (minor) aren't really important at all but Lucy (Future) is! To think that you'll make those Edolas Pages: Macao, Wakaba, Nao, even Shadow Gear and Cana.. This Lucy is very important to the storyline and if you won't put a new page, the you can just delete the Edolas ones. I remember (lol Rufus much?) someone (I think an admin of this wiki) said create pages as long as you'll manage them properly and *very* important to the series. And so, I
 * First of all, anons can't vote. Second of all, Edolas characters are different people than Earth Land. But Lucy and her future self are the same person. 20:24, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Since no other ideas/comments popped on the past 5 days, can we proceed to vote? Martios (talk) 20:30, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Fine >_> 20:41, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
 * xD sorry, I'm not used into doing this. Martios (talk) 21:21, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Paradox, eh? Let's see. What will happen here is that Future-Lucy's history will diverge from Present-Lucy's at some point. When this happens, we should find the correspondent section at P-Lucy's page and then add F-Lucy's history with a hidden button. Like this:

''Lucy then witnessed Erza being killed by Kagura. This drove Natsu mad and made him go to the stadium and kill Kagura, however, the Lucy from the future warned him to don't do so, and Natsu was knocked down.''

01:13,1/13/2013

If it is diverged at one point of the story, it adds more to the reason of making a new, separate page. Leaving it on the Lucy Heartfilia article and putting it under a new section/hidden template will just confuse the readers. "So wait... which Lucy did this and which Lucy didn't do that. Did this Lucy collapses or was it this one." And writing Future Lucy at the beginning of a sentence will just be repetitive and annoying. And Kaura will not die whore! :D 18:09, January 13, 2013 (UTC)
 * Well at least I didn't think it'd be repetitive ( ._.) And we wouldn't have to write "Future Lucy" everytime, just at the start of the synopsis. But well, it seems the new page idea will win anyways. But in this page, we'd have to copy-paste the Appearance, Personality, History, Magic, etc from Lucy's article? Or just say "Future Lucy's Appearance is the same as Lucy Heartfilia's? 16:57,1/14/2013
 * I talked about it above, let me quote it here: "Also, the things Rauleli mentioned aren't necessary the same, because the course of time could have changed it all. Future Lucy do share the same background with the Present Lucy, but she experienced more things after GMG. Her article could have only those facts that happened after GMG, or a complete version including Lucy's past + new facts. Her personality could have passed through changes due to seeing friends dying (that we dont know yet), same for her relationships (married to Natsu? xd)." So I think that things shouldn't be copied unless Future Lucy also displays it (except for the history, which doesnt change). We dont even know if she can still use magic. Martios (talk) 17:10, January 14, 2013 (UTC)

Create a New Page

 * Support if you think a page should be created for Lucy from the future.

As the one who proposed it. Martios (talk) 21:21, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

It will be more organized this way. 189.79.207.98
 * Anon, make an account. Anons cannot and will not be allowed to vote. . 22:07, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Stated my reasons above. 22:07, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

09:09, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

I like this idea :D 09:10, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

15:20, January 12, 2013 (UTC)

Much better, no? ._.

ok i change my mind

It will be more organized this way. 20:28,1/15/2013

Create a New Section

 * Support if you think a new section should be created in Lucy's current article for Lucy from the future.

This is just as organized. 22:06, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

I think a new article would have to be an exact copy of Lucy's one, so a temporary section on Lucy's current page would be the most practical. They're not entirely the same person/characters, but to make an article for minor changes (in contrast to the whole article) is too much, a section would be better. 18:05, January 13, 2013 (UTC)

Add to Lucy Page

 * Support if you think that the synopsis of future Lucy should be added together with present Lucy's synopsis.

Hidden templates make this easier, and more organized. 01:13,1/13/2013