Forum:Magic and Abilities in Fights

Discussion
Hey guys, Carrot here with something we're debating in chat that needs to be moved to a larger playing field.

Basically, we noticed we have a clash in the information added to fight pages and chapter pages.

See here and here. In the first link, Jellal and Natsu are only listed as using their own Magic under the 'Powers & Abilities' section. In the second link, the OS and Jellal are listed as using their Magic plus things like 'Enhanced Durability', 'Enhanced Speed' and 'Enhanced Strength' etc. etc.

Similarly, look here and here. In early chapter pages (I assume anime pages to, though I haven't checked) we only listed abilities such as 'Flight' and 'Hand to Hand Combat', though on later chapter pages we also list the enhanced durability and the like.

Now, what we were discussing in chat it whether or not these should even be on the pages, and some of us came to the conclusion that ONLY 'Hand to Hand Combat' and 'Swordsmanship' should be included. Why? Because in a fight they are the ways in which people attack without Magic. They are trained combative abilities of the body that can be used in a fight: fists or weapons outside of Magic. On the other had, we saw durability and speed as more attributes that maybe helped the specific participants battle, NOT something like an ability. I mean, is durability an ability you use in a fight? Racer (in the above example) has 'Enhanced Speed', but surely that's a given seeing as he uses Slowing Magic.

As such, I (at least) move that every ability outside of 'H2H Combat' and 'Swordsmanship' (and a few others - I think there are minimal examples, such as flight) be removed from fight pages and from chapter/episode pages, as they are not part of the actual fight and are more traits of the characters. Besides, who are we to decide that Jellal, say, wins a fight because he used his durability. I mean, *11:30, little dead here...* come on... surely that's a little subjective right?

Ah whatever, just stick a whole bunch of textbook replies below and we'll see what you guys think.

EDIT: Oh, by the way. Even if you think these things shouldn't be removed they will have to be added then to the pages that lack them. I.e: the Wiki is inconsistent, so something has to be done either way~

Carrot out~

13:24, May 6, 2014 (UTC)

Removing all but H2H and swords. Having Durability etc. on all fight and chapter pages makes no sense and it's absolutely redundant. 13:31, May 6, 2014 (UTC)

I agree. Aside from Hand to Hand and weapons, I have never heard of a reader of our articles look out for the combatant's enhancements. Plus, less text there, the better. 14:08, May 6, 2014 (UTC)