Talk:Zeref Dragneel

Zeref & Mavis' relationship confirmed as of Anime
Chapter 340 Page 14 - 19 revealed that both related & Zeref could be the former guild member & one of the founding member whom actually Mavis' lover

Speculations. 18:13, July 5, 2013 (UTC)

Death Wave
Okaaaaay soooo... In his M&A it is stated that the name of his spell is "Death Wave", however, in the Anime, he calls this something else, "Predatory Death". He mentioned this many times IN the Anime, one instance in episode 100, when he encountered Elf and Ever... also the fight with Ultear. I was supposed to add the predatory death as something Zeref refers to it, just like what Kamika refers to her papers. But since most of Mira's spells are not named in the Manga, and are named in the Anime, I brought it here. Should we rename Death Wave to Predatory Death, just add Predatory Death the same way with Kamika referring to her papers as "God of ", or just don't add it at all? Thoughts? 07:33,5/7/2014
 * I think he wasn't refering to any single spell, but either to death itself, or to whatever makes his powers go out of control. NoNickNeeded (talk) 08:15, May 7, 2014 (UTC)

Removing Nemesis
Hey guys, I was wondering why are we adding the spell Nemesis into this magic and abilities section. It was never shown that he used it. Yes, it's true that it comes from the Book of Zeref. But I thought we don't add any spells or magic unless we've actually seen them. Similar to Mavis. People are arguing that she knows Fairy Law but it was ignored because it's always due to "we won't add it until we see her use it" 07:32, August 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * I think the counter-argument to all this is that Nemesis came from Zeref's books, meaning he created the spell and therefore has the capacity to use it. It was never directly stated who created the three great Fairy Magics, and this is the difference between Zeref and Mavis in this regard. 07:42, August 21, 2014 (UTC)

Family Section
I was just wondering, why is Natsu referred to as just 'Natsu' in the family section of the infobox instead of 'Natsu Dragneel'? I'm pretty sure this is a mistake, but I can't change it, so I thought I'd put it here ^-^ Shinobiguy (talk) 16:09, May 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Thanks for the heads up. ^__^ 16:11,5/18/2015
 * Oh and also it says on Natsu's page that Zeref is his older brother so wouldn't that mean that it should say that Natsu is Zeref's younger brother on this page? Seems inconsistent to me. Shinobiguy (talk) 16:15, May 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, it should. Fixed. :) 16:20,5/18/2015

Can we really call Zeref and Natsu brothers? As I understand it Zeref's brother was, to put it bluntly, merely the raw material from which Natsu was built. There doesn't seem to be anything left of the brother's mind or soul. NoNickNeeded (talk) 20:59, May 18, 2015 (UTC)

Zeref literally said that he had resurrected his brother though 20:22, May 18, 2015 (UTC)

This is true... Zeref stated that he managed to kill two birds with stone - he revived his brother and created a being capable of ending his life in one go...--61.1.245.213 11:52, May 22, 2015 (UTC)

Magic and Abilities Section
I was wondering if Magic and Abilities section should include "Genius intellect" or something... When he was still a child, he was already writing papers of advanced topics such as the relationship between magic and life and death and he also invented the R-system and Eclipse Gate... The others at Mildian Magic Academy even acknowledged that he was a prodigy and had high hopes for him...--61.1.245.213 11:58, May 22, 2015 (UTC)

Edit Personality Section?
I mean, did you see his face when he was torturing Makarov ? This refutes everything we know about him, including the caring about life yada yada.

He seems to be extremely cold hearted; literally talking calmly to Makarov about sending the latter's dead body to his own brother.

Isn't that creepy as hell ?

Or maybe he is bipolar; he was jovial in the beginning and suddenly became all evil and intensely scary only a few seconds later.

Sorry, forgot to sign before.

--112.133.229.15 13:05, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

Spoilers
Can we remove his last name from the title of the article, since it's a MAJOR spoiler, similar to how Oracion Seis aren't referred to by their actual names. Like, have Dragneel in his background and Avatar/Alvarez arcs section.69.118.225.200 19:48, August 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * I kind of agree with you anon, but the thing is if people go to a wiki to find out about a series when they've not got up-to-date with it, they will always risk coming across spoilers. That's just the risk they take unfortunately :/ 19:52, August 20, 2015 (UTC)

No. And this is coming from someone who hates having a story spoiled for him. However, any information coming from a chapter already publicly available in English is no longer a spoiler for us. If you are an anime only fan, or not up to date, by entering the wiki or even just looking up information about the series/characters in general, you take the risk of being spoiled on yourself. Also, Oracion Seis members are now called by their real names. 19:54, August 20, 2015 (UTC)

Fire Magic/Demon-Book ability
I'm just wondering but should we add fire magic as apart of Zeref's abilities as he used it to burn Mard Geer in book form. I'm also wondering why no one has added that Zeref can turn his demons back in books as a ability of his as he can due it again with Mard Geer, thanks.174.25.5.150 05:25, October 1, 2015 (UTC)

Age Seal
Immobilization Magic to Age Seal? Or speculation and too early? --Sane Lunatic (talk) 20:14, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

personally wouldn't care to add but prob speculation... plus his time-stop had the inverted colors and shit 20:36, February 23, 2016 (UTC)

Genius
Here what the Anon said a long time ago. "I was wondering if Magic and Abilities section should include "Genius intellect" or something... When he was still a child, he was already writing papers of advanced topics such as the relationship between magic and life and death and he also invented the R-system and Eclipse Gate... The others at Mildian Magic Academy even acknowledged that he was a prodigy and had high hopes for him...--61.1.245.213 11:58, May 22, 2015 (UTC)" He was ignored by the community, but I think he's right. If Mirajane has "Keen Intellect", why shouldn't Zeref's geniality be mentioned?  MiraMajin Talk!  12:14, July 6, 2016 (UTC)