Talk:Zeref Dragneel/Archive 1

Balam Alliance
When as anything ever been stated that Zeref is using the Balam Alliance? ONLY Grimoire Heart wants to awaken him, its never been stated he's using them. -UMI


 * Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's completely wrong; got rid of it. It's not even been stated if he can do anything in his magical prison. Also, what chapter does Erza say that Zeref created Deliora? I don't remember that. Dalyup! 09:13, 10 August 2009 (UTC)


 * She said it during the "Tower of Paradise" arc Shock Dragoon

Voice Actor
How does he have a voice actor when he's never appeared? - WhiteArmor - (Talk) - 12:03, May 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Probably as Lullaby? Or maybe it was written on the official site. --Anthonie 19:17, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Picture
Isn't this the picture of Ultear's magic corrupting Jellal, and not the real Zeref? --Anthonie 19:17, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

I guess it's there because there isnt an actual picture of him-UMi

Grammar much
"Zeref was the most strongest and most evil mage in history that possesses a very dangerous magic." That is incorrect grammar that needs to be corrected. It should be: "Zeref was the strongest and most evil mage in history, who possesses a very dangerous magic."
 * Haha, agreed. The horrible grammar is quite hilarious, IMO. :p --Jinjo Ghost 05:59, October 31, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry that we forgot to check for grammar errors. We will be fixing it immediately. Chaos Knight  07:04, October 31, 2010 (UTC)

alternate interpretation
does anyone who read chapter 209 think that by "unseal" hades and the rest mean unlock some sort of evil personality in zeref. i mean look at him...he's all "i dont wanna kill anymore" maybe someone sealed the evil personality in him and for lack of a better reference something akin to zero will pop out upon said unsealing?Zimydoomy 00:49, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

It's kind of obvious that in the future, the evil personality of Zeref will be released. If it wouldn't we wouldn't be able to see the baddest mage of Fairy Tail. L

It wouldn't make a great story line if the villains never got what they wanted once in a while. (Unless it's Pokemon)

Hey, like, this isn't confirmed or anything, but I just wanted to get other's opinion on it. Is it possible that Zeref is Ultear's father? I mean, she wants to find him so bad, and she says she will be saved if they meet. Also, her father was never revealed, so... Yeah, it's a little out there. EeLgIrL (^.^) 15:26, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

trivia
thats pure speculation with no fact to back it so it should be removedZicoihno 14:25, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * "He may be a Dragon Slayer that was raised by the Black Dragon given his sharp teeth"

Assuming that the person who wrote that Zeref's a Dragon Slayer is right, it could be possible then that the Black Dragon Gildarts fought before he returned to Fairy Tail was the one who taught Zeref to become a Dragon Slayer. The Black Dragon is said to be an enemy of humans after all and seeing that Zeref's a Black Mage, it fits.

Shinku shinkirou 16:30, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

That makes sense. -- Sparen ( talk ) 17:29, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

It still speculation and being a black mage does not mean that you are an enemy of humans it only means they are evil. The whole thing about Zeref beign a god slayer too is speculation since the eyes sometimes gain rings during strong emotions, Natsu got an extra ring when his scarf became black, and Zeref mention that he is mad, Zancrow on the otherhand always had the rings in his eyes.Masgrande 07:44, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

"Fan Speculation popularises the idea that Zeref is the Dragon Slayer of the Black Dragon, indicated by his sharp canines and his use of "black magic". There is also the possibility that he is a God Slayer, as his eyes have recently been shown to possess the same ringed irises as Zancrow."

Umm... Speculation? I don't think it should be put here, just cause. EeLgIrL (^.^) 04:20, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

Zeref "Profile Picture"
Hi, just wondered it the Zeref's recent picture can be changed to this one http://tinypic.com/r/vcar/7

Thx ^^

I think they want to keep a colored version. EeLgIrL (^.^) 19:35, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Zeref's picture
Uhhh... I tried to edit his picture where his eyes can be seen but I can't get rid of my name below it. Please help D: Blissfully Disturbed 13:45, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but it had to be removed because it's fan colored. If it's officially colored, or from the anime, we can use it. Chaos Knight -{E-mail}  17:05, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Okay then. Sorry about that.. Blissfully Disturbed 13:45, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Two types of personalities
Assume it like this there are two types of personalities for Zeref.His darkness must have been sealed.It can be understood by his conversation from other. 16:45, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed, it'd be just like Meredy.

slight different lol, he has another man living inside him. 09:35, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Umm.... I never heard that there were was another person living inside of him.

let me say the concept is like Naruto and kyubbi in naruto manga.

Summon Acnologia?
It is stated under his "Magic and Abilities" that he can apparently summon Acnologia. To me it seems there is no proof thats what happened. Of course this is just my theory, but what i think happens in chapter 242 page 9 is that he feels the presence of the dragon, thus waking up. And in chapter 250 page 19 he seem visible shaken (i would go as far as to maybe even say afraid) that its coming, not something i would expect from a guy who just "summoned it" (here it is also proven, that he can feel its presence. While i am aware that he might or might not have two personalities, and maybe it was the “evil side” summoned Acnologia, I would like to point out that on that he has the “evil eyes” (missing a better word), in chapter 250 page 19 (the page I linked to before). It is of course all just my theories, but i still think we should remove the part about summoning Acnologia from the article, so i wanted to see if anybody else agreed with me. --Cosmikaze 14:14, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Also in chapter 249 page 18, he says "It was your wicked toughts that summoned Acnologia." --Cosmikaze 14:35, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

yeah, he didn't summon Acnologia on purpose. And he doesnt decide when its called. As you said, its the actions of others that brings Acnologia. In the end its still Zeref calling the dragon though, even if its not on purpose.  talk Garyness  15:03, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it's been changed. Thanks 17:59, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Former Villain
Can we really consider him a former villain?? --Ncf 22:26, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

We don't consider him a former villain. Just a former Dark Mage as we don't know his current status. 22:29, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

I just asked because in http://fairytail.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Former_Villains?title=Category:Former_Villains&page=2 --Ncf 22:35, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Well, actually I don't consider him a former villain, but saying that he isn't a former villain might be speculation because he hasn't done anything to prove that he isn't a villain anymore but saying that he IS a former villain might be speculation as well... I'm not sure about this one 22:42, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Well he hasn´t been hostile to Fairy Tail directly... but i wouldn´t counsider him a former villain. So for the time being let him stay as a former villain or remove it? --Ncf 22:44, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure. Has he done anything to prove that he is a former villain? Has he done anything to prove that he isn't a former villain? The only thing I can think of is how he said that the world was going to end, but I'm not sure if that's enough to remove him from the former villains 22:48, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

I understand what you mean but he did attack (Without intencion) evergreen and elfman... well it´s only a minor detail, that only time will give us the answer, personally i would remove it but i´m either way, it´s not a major detail right now --Ncf 22:51, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

He didn't attack them, he lost control of his Magic. And you are right, we should wait until more evidence is shown. 22:54, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

I guess we should remove it, actually. We have no evidence that he isn't a former villain, we have no evidence he is. So at this point there is no connection between him and the "Former villains" category, therefore I think he is to be removed from that category and eventually added if the situation changes. Sligneris (talk) 22:29, February 12, 2013 (UTC)

X791 Arc
Wouldn't it be more correct to put the Eclipse Plan requires "celestial spirit mages"? Because when Arcadios found out that Yukino was also a celestial spirit mage he said the plan was "assured more than ever" in Chapter 280 page 23. Seems like that means he could also use Yukino to move along the plan in some way. Yuuki-Youko Hime 19:49, May 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree.