Talk:Natsu Dragneel

motion sickness?
in chapter 290 (fairy tail party at end of 3rd day GMG), natsu doesn't seems to get motion sickness when he do "barrel surfing", inconsistency-forget-thing from mashima? haha --Monterico (talk) 23:25, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

I know it's been a few days, but I'll answer anyway. It's what Natsu considers as a "mode of transport" that makes him sick. He doesn't consider Happy a mode of transport, so he doesn't get sick. It's highly plausible that Natsu doesn't consider "having fun" as a form of transportation. It's all speculative, but I hope that that gave you a new perspective. :) 04:22,2/17/2013 04:22, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

thanks for your attention and answers, i really i appreciate that. so natsu must consider being in all transportation is having fun then, to prevent the motion sickness haha. btw good work on the "GN" thing --Monterico (talk) 06:19, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

It was most likely a situational thing. I don't think it would work on everything; just to differentiate between "fun" and "hell". And besides, if the solution was that simple, where would all the humor go? :P About the "GN" thing, thanks. It's a little thing that eventually adds up to having been a big deal when it's all done. 07:25,2/17/2013 07:25, February 17, 2013 (UTC)

"Strength" image
Then find a better image that illustrates the topic or remove it altogether.-- 10:14, October 21, 2013 (UTC)

This image is fine because it's not meant to show the punches specifically, it's to show the process of him overwhelming the two of them. just as the text describes it. Secondly, if you don't feel that it's appropriately placed or captioned in the first place even after an undoing, start a discussion. Thirdly, if you're gonna bring up an issue on the talk page, do it properly so people can actually understand what the issue is rather than being confrontational.
 * The image illustrates reflexes and reactions time way more than "overwhelming strength". Its not just Natsu punching them thats knocking them back, the force of them coming forward and walking into Natsu's punch attributes to their rebound. If it was Natsu picking up a building or something or a giant rock, then it would illustrate high physical strength. This does not. Also, this isnt a big matter that really needs some kinda broad sit down discussion. I just brought something up that needs to be fixed. Its not really confrontational, its pretty straight forward from my POV. Would you rather i edit-warred?-- 10:25, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * I obviously prefer that nobody enters an edit war. Your statement was understood by me to be confrontational by the way in which you elected to write it: in the form of a demand. If someone has an issue with something ones and they undo it, one should start a discussion, it's that simple. As to the picture itself, I don't know how the anime demonstrated it but the manga does not show them coming forward and receiving the punch after doing to; it was Natsu who was dominating their fight by throwing the punches and managed to get in between them. That's why this image was used and this anime image was placed over its manga counterpart so whatever the anime showed doesn't really matter.
 * Firstly, i apologize for making a confrontational impression. I am not really in any position to make demands. Secondly, it doesnt show forward force but it still doesnt illustrate superior physical strength. If you look at the lead up to the punch, then it would be more of a case of enhanced reflexes seconds after engaging in hand to hand combat. A pic with a superior physical strength feat, would be something like Natsu picking something much larger than him up. This pic does nothing in terms of strength presentation. Just hand to hand combat and/or reflexes from my POV.-- 10:44, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * That's fine then. The basic part of this fight the image shows was pretty much Natsu handling Sting and Rogue like kids. Even though they were using Dragon Force, he beat them both back and put them on the defensive with just his physical strength by kicking and punching them relentlessly before this punch, which sent them flying. Personally, I think enhanced reflexes would be more like acrobatic dodging of the opponent's moves or quick reactions to incoming danger. The section on physical strength is large and so it needs an image to have in its description and I don't personally have an issue with this image. For now, I suggest we just leave this here as it is and later go search for an image we think would be more suitable. Would that be agreeable?
 * Oh definitely, again I am in no position to be making these kinda requests or demands. You should do as you see fit for the betterment of the article. I was just pointing something out. No worries.-- 10:53, October 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Your intentions are appreciated.

I'm actually in agreement with Hungry here, the strength showed in that picture is pretty minuscule when compared to other strength feats in the Fairy Tail universe. I say we get a picture or gif of one of his other feats like stopping the Dorma Anim and put it in that picture's place. 23:23,11/18/2013
 * Want me to just create a GIF of the current one? Because in the one you are asking for, Natsu has support from Wendy's Magic. 23:31, November 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah, I completely forgot about her Arms spell. >_> If that's the case, I think the still image of this shot will have to do for now. My problem with it was that it wasn't really showing any noteworthy strength and I don't think a gif can help unless they crashed into something like a wall or something afterwards. 23:35,11/18/2013
 * How's this? 23:54, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I think that does the job a bit better than just the still image alone. 23:57,11/18/2013

Gotcha, so I'll change it now and close this discussion. Lol, two-man discussion. :3 23:59, November 18, 2013 (UTC)

Natsu's Age
If Natsu is the same age as Lucy then that would mean Natsu was born in X767, but it is unknown about the month and day of that year. Lucy was born July 1, X767. The year X784 they was stuck on the island for 7 years (X791) if they wasn't stuck there they those two would be 24 years-old21:22, January 11, 2014 (UTC)~Skyler Fernandez

Sorry, but until his age is explicitly stated in the manga, nothing can be added to the article. 21:24, January 11, 2014 (UTC)

Hey, I just found in the cover of chapter 23 that his age is unknown. So may I just add it to his characteristics along with a reference?--Shay.avigad.1 (talk) 13:52, August 13, 2014 (UTC)

There is no need to add anything if it's unknown. ^^ 13:54, August 13, 2014 (UTC)

age
Can anyone add a section on his age?

His age is currently unknown, so no for now. 06:23, January 17, 2014 (UTC)

age
Can anyone add a section on his age? It is estimated he is over 88 years old. Gajeel may also have the same problem. Wendii probably is older than she looks too. In the anime she stays the same age relatively within a few months. You can tell how many months went by by Lucy's rent. So Natsu is over 88 years old or his dragon years is over 88 years old. Another theory states the dragon magic is tied to the dragon who trained them. Lacrima come from a) a dragon's soul, b) the essence of a dragon. The idea is that the lacrimal steals a dragon's magic and then it's implanted into someone. It is not as effective because it may fail or kill the user likewise. (which is why they say it is dangerous.) Makarov states that in the festival arc of the anime with his grandson Laxas. 06:23, January 17, 2014 (UTC)67.183.177.112 06:23, January 17, 2014 (UTC)

That is all pure speculation. Until facts are given in the series, we will not add so 06:26, January 17, 2014 (UTC)

No seriously the lacrimal is in episode 35 during the explanation where inserting a lacrimal into Laxas made him strong it also could have killed him too. He could not leave the barrier which means he is over 80. 06:32, January 17, 2014 (UTC)

Like Relikz said, that is just pure speculation, Natsu's age will only be written when his actual age is confirmed in the story or by some other sources. B214 (Talk) 06:40, January 17, 2014 (UTC)

Age
Dragons slayers perhaps may be older because of the dragon slayer magic. It would make since the dragons' taught it to their disciples because they wanted them to be more like them. However doing so created dragon-human hybrids. It is said they can become dragons. Acnologia became a dragon his age is listed over 400+. So dragon slayers' ages are older than humans. This is because of their dragon slayer magic. WHen the enchantment was listed in episode 44. Later Gajeel could not escape either. This is not speculation. As Acnologia became a dragon as said, and furthermore became the leader of the dragons. So Dragons when they adopt a disciple they really are perhaps creating a new dragon. It is perhaps possible for dragons to normally create dragons through biological means but this is not confirmed.

Despite it is perceived to have the 'help of Zeref" to become a dragon. That is speculation All we know is that he did become a dragon. After repeating what is said there is sufficient evidence that the series suggest the dragon slayers are older. It would not make sense for the dragons to suddenly find all of these disciples at the same time relatively. In fact it would make more sense if they adopted disciples around 100 years or 200 years before this fact. If suddenly 8-16 years they all decide to adopt a human it seems that a explanation is needed to suggest this---because a plot hole would exist in the fact that the author overlooked a key detail. For example all of the dragons would have to meet up and discuss why they left all at the same time or have a plan. The same could be said on 77777.

http://fairytail.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Sargenttacos115/Natsu_and_Gajeel_age_Theory

Despite this is would be lame on the time travel theory. There's a problem with continuity where the dragons' decided to leave on 777. and the slayers vanished?

23:43, January 17, 2014 (UTC) http://fairytail.wikia.com/wiki/User:Thunderbringerstormbrook
 * Talk Pages are for making suggestions for and discussing changes to the article, based on confirmed facts. They are not for discussing theories, that's what blogs are for. NoNickNeeded (talk) 23:47, January 17, 2014 (UTC)

Heat blade
I think someone has to add the Heat blade that Natsu got in Tartaros. Even if he loses it in the next chapter, it still must be mentioned, because he was carrying it on his belt. We don't know it's powers yet, but it allowed Natsu to cut the chains and Natsu himself commented that it is really powerful.192.162.208.3 20:47, February 16, 2014 (UTC)

Can we finally put Natsu's age?
So as most of you probably know, it is revealed at the end of chapter 416 by Zeref that Natsu is in fact E.N.D. and we know that E.N.D. is over 400+ years old. So can we at least put that as Natsu's age (or at least put that as his estimated age) and add E.N.D. to his list of alias's? (104.184.194.3 05:51, January 20, 2015 (UTC))
 * Zeref was alive and awake the entire 400 years. He could have created Natsu at any point in time between back then and the 770s. NoNickNeeded (talk) 09:56, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * It is said in the manga that E.N.D. is also 400+ years old and that he fought with Igneel and was sealed into The Book of E.N.D. 400 years ago. Now Natsu could have been awakened at any point in that 400 year timeline but, much like Mavis, Natsu is still chronologically 400 years old. (104.184.194.3 21:22, January 20, 2015 (UTC))

- What about Natsu's race? It's also revealed that he is an Etherious, so should that also be added? 122.59.192.229 09:50, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

We still don't have enough details on that. 09:54, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * What exactly do we not have enough details for? We finally have a canon age for Natsu which we haven't had since the start of the series and putting E.N.D. down as one of his alias's seems only logical due to Zeref himself confirming that E.N.D. stood for Etherious Natsu Dragneel. I don't believe a wiki needs more information than that to add in an age or alias (or at least an assumed age) and I think that we all know that we will be waiting quite a while before we get anymore information on E.N.D./Natsu. (104.184.194.3 21:22, January 20, 2015 (UTC))
 * We are leaving Natsu/E.N.D. alone because there is no other information besides what E.N.D. stands for. Zeref has shown that Etherious cannot exist apart from their books, yet here we have the standing for an acronym but with no explanation. If we simply merged all the information...just think about all the holes we'd have no way to fill in. Article integrity and patience are just as important as making sure everything is up to date. You bend the rules to preserve those things if you have to, and we are going to bend the rules. 21:27, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * I wasn't suggesting a full merger of both articles. Simply have an assumed age for Natsu as well as adding E.N.D. to the list of alias's as temporary placeholders until more information becomes available in the future. But I understand where you are coming from if you think action should not be taken. I was just thinking to put Natsu's age as an assumed 400 and his alias as E.N.D. would be a temporary solution until new information becomes available. But like I said, I understand where your coming form if you guys don't want to. Thank you for clarifying your standpoint on the topic. (104.184.194.3 22:14, January 20, 2015 (UTC))
 * The appreciation and understanding is appreciated, and yes, we are just going to leave both articles untouched and protected for the time being. Thanks. 22:28, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * @anon, before that, we've seen Natsu as a child back when he entered the guild and grown up till now, so we can't really say Natsu's age is 400+ nor can we place it as an Etherius yet, like Wrath said, until we can solve the mysteries, better to leave the page untouched. 22:34,1/20/2015 22:34, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

Natsu's not human
This needs edited. Natsu is a demon, and since Zeref created him, Zeref is his real father. Will someone fix this? --LucyHeartfilia13 (talk) 23:15, February 10, 2015 (UTC)LucyHeartfilia13

(Sorry just realized this issue has already been resolved)

--LucyHeartfilia13 (talk) 23:18, February 10, 2015 (UTC)LucyHeartfilia13

Natsu's Eye Color
Many say Its black and true sometimes it seems like that from afar but up close the are a green/yellowish color. But we don't follow anime eye colors. Everything in this Wiki should be based on manga, except anime-exclusive stuff. 07:14, February 11, 2015 (UTC)

I don't want to create any arguments, but... pew

Hiro pls 07:20, February 11, 2015 (UTC)

To summarise asker, the reason we state his eye colour is black is because it is the only colour to be used consistently in official art and the manga/manga covers. Yes, Natsu has been seen with different coloured eyes at times, but each version is always different, as seen by Misk's links above: sometimes golden, sometimes hazel, sometimes green-y, sometimes dark brown. If Mashima used one of those consistently in multiple artworks this could be more debatable, but as each new colour appears as little as the last, we no longer bother to discuss and and stick with black. 07:35, February 11, 2015 (UTC)

Natsu's Sensor Abilities?
Um this maybe sound a little late but shouldn't somebody add Natsu's sensor abilities? Like Natsu's sensor abilities appear in Chapter 420? Like Natsu just sense two theives and defeated them by random! Like this is just a suggestion for those forgot to read Chapter 420.--76.121.234.236 05:07, March 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * Already on there. Enhanced smell and enhanced hearing--
 * umm there is a problem with that, Natsu didn't smell or hear just sense/detect, I re-read chapter 420 again and it didn't said that Natsu smell or hear. Like if Natsu did smell or hear, Natsu would said it, or smell the scent or hear the sound. Not here to argue but just want to bring a suggestion or reminder for those who forgot to read chapter 420. --76.121.234.236 19:37, March 3, 2015 (UTC)
 * There was an old lady screaming to give it back. Natsu heard it and reacted--

Template colors
I don't know if you have already talked about this, but since FT is disbnaded, shouldn't we take out the colors of the templates, like at Karen Lilica's page? --GosBoig (disc.) 17:19, March 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah we should, but I certainly don't want to have to do that all by myself. >_> 17:20, March 5, 2015 (UTC)
 * At the catalan wiki (i'm admin there) I'm changing them while they appear; I've already changed Natsu, Happy, Carla, Wendy and Lucy--GosBoig (disc.) 17:34, March 5, 2015 (UTC)

I think its possible that Natsu might be strong enough to equal the caliber of both Erza, Gildarts, and possibly, Laxus Hartburn38 (talk) 01:01, March 13, 2015 (UTC)

Strength Comparison
It could be possible that due to the one-year training he went through with Happy, Natsu's strength had increased and is now equal to Erza, Laxus, and Gildarts' caliber, just maybe.(Hartburn38 (talk) 01:04, March 13, 2015 (UTC))