User talk:LightningGeist

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Questions
There's really no one way for me to explain how to tell if a spell has already been created, just with different animation. The first thing you should look at is the name and the description. If they match, they are probably the same thing, just different animations.

If you are sure that they are not the same, then you can create the page. But if you're not sure, you can always ask one of us.

Yes, gifs to spell pages are done by the Image Guild. However, when a spell is anime-only, you will not see it posted on the IG's request board, so anyone is allowed to do those unless someone of the IG takes the job. 13:59, May 27, 2014 (UTC)

Spells
Hello there, LightningGeist. I am ChokokuguzaNoTobira, one of the members. Hope you're having a good day / night.

So, I came here to tell you that your sandbox has caught my attention; and whilst you're doing a wonderful work for coming up with those spells, I have slight issues about it:
 * The names Lightning Bolt and Lightning Shock, isn't it redundant? I mean, Bolt is similar to lightning, and if you were hit by lightning (by anime means, of course), you'll experience various effects, and one of those are shock. Besides, the Lightning Bolt didn't showcase any damage at all.
 * Your Lightning Stomp and Lightning Kick are (kind) of the same move.
 * Your Lightning Guard is just Laxus defending himself against it and turning himself into Lightning.
 * Your Lightning Shock is just Laxus, holding Erza's feet. It didn't do her any damage at all.
 * Lightning Headbutt.. I am not sure of this; it's kind of, in my opinion, okay to keep since there's Water Punch and all, though I think, it's just Laxus, coating his attack with Lightning.
 * Lastly, your Lightning Transfer. I actually don't understand how did that, or rather, will become a spell. Laxus just gave his Magic to Natsu for him to consume; unlike Flame of Rebuke, which made Natsu enter Dragon Force.

But on the other hand, I don't have problems with your Lightning Twin Blast and Lightning Strike. I know you just started in doing this so you might be not familiar, but consider this message as a friendly reminder and a guide. We want to ensure that what we're doing and having here is correct. If ever you need help, there are tons of users you can ask around and probably will be willing to assist you. If ever you will find my message offensive in your part then I apologize, but as someone who also makes articles, particularly spells, I had the urge to do this and give you a reminder. If ever you'll have questions or in need of help, feel free to contact me.

Lotsa love, Choko

Well, Laxus is, or rather, has an S-class quality to him, so he is powerful. And he's one of my favorite characters, so I understand your sentiments for him. And please, don't be discouraged from making pages, it's just that your drafts has few faults that needs to be fixed. With proper guide and help, you can make that one into a wonderful page. And don't my moods get through you. I am usually nice and approachable no matter how hot-headed and pissed I am in real life. You can always ask help from me if ever you need me, and I'll gladly assist you. And yes, that would be a good option, since I am 100% certain that the anime team will make filler spells for Laxus. I apologize if my mood scared you or anything, but trust me, I am not the type of user who blurts my foul mood towards someone. :)

Happy editing and see you around.

Re: Laxus's Filler Spells
Hi there, LightningGeist. I haven't forgotten about you, my memory is not that bad. XD About the spells, it's no problem. Whilst a part of me is kind of uncertain that a filler spell would come up, there is also a part of me that feels that the fight with Jura vs. Laxus (and hopefully with Orga) will be prolonged (considering how the anime team adds stuff lately) so there might be a new spell to come out; and if a one comes up, then I'll do my best to make them.

Re: Help
I scanned over your sandbox and they seem fine, but I'll have to agree with some points Cho-kun stated above. Also, make sure your spells aren't just copies of existing spell pages in the wiki. Just check. :) That's all for now, I'll tell you if I see anything wrong in the future.

Anyway, if you encounter any trouble around the wiki, you can always message me. Have a nice day!

Yep. I'll do that. ^___^ Oh btw, you can just call me Red. :)

Sure. :)

I'm not particularly great with thinking of names, so I'll just vote (only for those with slashes): The titles of other spells with no slashes already sound fine to me, and I also prefer Laxus' spells to have 'Lightning' in it. Ask other users such as Cho-kun for those names too. About the images for your spells, you can either ask Misk so he could add them to the IG request board or just use this section (but preferably ask Misk since you want GIFs for spells).
 * Lightning Bolt
 * Lightning Strike
 * Lightning Wheel

If you have any more questions, tell me. :)

No, don't add the articles in the IG request board just yet. You have to tell and ask Misk first. Just go to his talk page and if he approves, he'll add them to the request board. Anyway, before he adds it there, the article page must be made first.

Re: Images
Hi there, Iron Shadow Dragon's Club hasn't been shown in the anime yet, it will appear later (in manga chapter 335, the anime is at chapter 322 at the moment). The Iron Club against Rogue seems to be the regular one. 10:07, July 7, 2014 (UTC)

Re: finishing stuffs
Hi there, LightningGeist. Sorry for the late reply, I have to be inactive because of personal reasons, but don't let that hinder you from messaging me; if ever you need me for something, then I'll show up whenever I have the time. Don't let my statuses affect you, I never turn down people who needs my help, even if I marked my status as inactive. Anyways, getting down to business:
 * Lightning Dragon's Iron Fist: Actually, someone made the article before, but it was end up deleted due to the following reasons:
 * Laxus just coated his punch with Lightning.
 * Laxus is a, albeit in the Second Generation, Dragon Slayer, so he was able to hurt Atlas Flame.
 * Just because he was able to push the Dragon away, it doesn't mean that it's something noteworthy and deserves a page.
 * Lightning Twin Blast: Again, I have no problems with this.
 * Lightning Strike: Same as above.
 * Lightning Kick & Lightning Headbutt: I don't know, I am still conflicted. Thinking about it carefully, I don't think that melee moves such as these deserves an article, but this is just me. After all, like what I told you before, Juvia's Water Punch exists.
 * Lightning Bolt: I think this is unnecessary. In my opinion, this is like a basic offense, just like how Ice Magic can freeze their surroundings. Plus, your name is redundant.
 * Lightning Wheel: I'll give my verdict about this once I've seen it. Hold it for a while.

So there you have it. However, should my answers doesn't satiate you, feel free to ask other people, I am certain that they would help you out. I strongly suggest to ask an admin too, for a good back up. Whilst I don't see anything wrong with your format, please be reminded that before publishing them, please make sure that your references are correct, you will add them in Laxus' articles and you will update his Magic page. Should something arises, or you need more, please, do not hesitate to leave a message on my talk page. Thank you, and again, I apologize for the delay.

No problem at all. And I don't know, I just find the two similar in both ways. Naming it Lightning Bolt sounds so wrong for me. Also, if you want, you can also ask for Wrath's opinion, since I usually seek his help too, whenever I make my articles, plus he's a reliable guy.

I saw, and to be honest, it doesn't matter how many opinions you get; in fact, the more, the better. And as for a name, I apologize, but I cannot think of anything as of now.

Don't think of it as a "bother"; it's much more of a bother when you do things without asking everyone then you'd end up failing. Trust me, we'd be more than willing to assist you, especially when you're that troubled. And oh, Wrath is a guy.

Re:Excuse me
Haha, it's no trouble at all. The "Susan" thing was from awhile ago, where I put it in my masthead to please certain people. Anyway, moving on...

Here are the ones I feel deserve a page and ones I feel don't. I'll give reasons for each.

Deserving:
 * 1) Lightning Kick: We have articles for pages such as Water Punch and Water Kick, so to not say that we can have one for this would just be unfair.

Unsure:
 * 1) Lightning Wheel: *is too lazy to look up the episode* It sounds like it could deserve one, judging from its unique usage.
 * 2) Lightning Headbutt: Laxus didn't coat his face in lightning; it was just a basic electrical discharge. Natsu has headbutted things and released flames from his forehead before, and yet we don't have Fire Dragon's Headbutt for a very similar reason. However, it wasn't exactly a random discharge either, so I'm slightly torn.

Undeserving:
 * 1) Lightning Bolt: This is just basic lightning generation, which is the defining characteristic of Lightning Magic. I believe Choko already said this, but it's like making a spell page for Freeze.
 * 2) Lightning Strike: We have Raging Bolt, which is rather similar to this, and it's still just basic random lightning generation at its finest. Also, this is more of a "lightning bolt". ;D
 * 3) Lightning Twin Blast: It's like Lightning Bolt, but from both hands instead of one. If Lightning Bolt ever did get a page, having a version of a two-handed one would just be redundant all by itself.

Overall, a lot of things can just be written off as abilities in the description of the magic itself because they are too small. Not every bit of magic usage needs a spell page, so I appreciate that you're going about asking for help the right way and addressing not only your own concerns, but our own as well. If you have any more questions, or wish to defend your reasons for wanting to make the pages I disagree with, feel free to write me back. You may change my view, but you may also not; likewise I may have changed your own. Thanks and happy editing, dude. 18:42, July 7, 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, after some review, I'm okay with your Lightning Bolt idea as long as it's merged with Lightning Twin Blast. The new name, Lightning Blast, works fine for that. I remain unsure about Lightning Wheel and Lightning Headbutt, however I'm also willing to concede to Lightning Strike as well. In the end, seek a fifth opinion about Lightning Wheel and Lightning Headbutt. Personally, I recommend my fellow councilor and friend Misk. Good luck. 04:53, July 8, 2014 (UTC)

Spells
They look good except for Lightning Twin Blast because that's just 2 Lightning Bolts done at the same time. 22:29, July 7, 2014 (UTC)

Provide me your inputs, and I'll give my opinions about them. This is the best that I could do for you. I am also up for the merge, so depending on how it will turn out, I might agree to it.

Again, I agree with the merge, so try making a merged one and let me see how it will end up. And up to you, I think, our opinions are already enough, but Misky is also a reliable guy, so it wont hurt to ask him too.


 * How about: "Through the use of either single or both hands, the caster can conjure bolts of electricity that has either frail, hot enough to heat a metal arm or devastating power to inflict damage." Not sure about the wording, but I suggested on changing it because it has too much sentences. Not that it's bad, but it isn't my style.
 * Is everything in your sandbox final?

Hello, Lightning Wheel and Lightning Headbutt are fine in my books, however, I find Lightning Blast unnecessary due to Lightning Explosion's existence. 09:35, July 8, 2014 (UTC)

Anytime~ 10:44, July 8, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Lightning Explosion
The lightning is an extension of his body and he punched the ground with said lightning to create an explosive torrent of the electricity. Either way, the ground is more or less punched. 21:12, July 8, 2014 (UTC)

It's not a problem and thank you very much, Geist. ;3 02:35, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

Video Games
Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry! I didn't see your message. >__>

For that, you would have to open a forum. Some people may agree to it and some my disagree. Let me know if you need help with anything concerning the forum and the video game pages, ect. :) 03:04, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

Yup, lol. And don't be scared. If you mess anything up, I'll help you fix it. :) 15:16, July 9, 2014 (UTC)

Request
I assumed that you also read what I wrote on the Image Guild's page, right? And I will be paid only for what I did, provided that the one who will check it wont have any problems about it.

No problem. I had nothing to do earlier, so I decided to take it on.

Awesome
Hey there, what's up? :) I was visiting your profile and read all of your Fictional Thoughts. They're awesome! Have you ever written a fanfiction? If yes, please leet me know the name, if not, you should think about it :P  Magno  Cosmos  22:46, July 10, 2014 (UTC)

Spells
You can close the discussion and begin adding the spell to the Magic pages. Let me know if you want me to lend you a hand. :) 01:54, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Discussion Closed
Hello there. I wasn't aware that Natsu gave you his permission to do so, because as far as my knowledge goes, I also closed a discussion once, and got a reminder that only Administrators and Policy & Standards Council members can close a discussion or forum. I apologize.

Re: Fanfiction
Yes, I actually have plenty of ideas and projects, but I'm brazilian, so it's all written in portuguese ): But I can translate them if you're really interested in them :P I still think you should write a fanfic, if you try you'll see how easy it is. You would be successful hahaha 04:09, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

I'm currently on vacation, so I have a lot of free time :P If you need any help about fanfic or anything feel free to contact me, I have some experience in that xD 04:41, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Sure, it must be something to do with a lot of spare time, trust me hehe 05:04, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Images
Hi, LightningGeist. Uh, just so you know, we usually don't use .gifs as a photo in spell pages. About the Juvia and Gray spell, I suggest either using this or this.

Hey
Hey there! About Unison Raid: Oh I see why you did it, but UR shouldn't be there either. And the spell looks good! Go ahead and create the page. 21:43, July 11, 2014 (UTC)

Image Guild
12:46, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

Anytime, sorry we took so long xD 12:55, July 14, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Ice Punch
Thanks for the help Geist. It'll definitely be Ice Magic. There was no two-hand focusing pose. Also, how exactly would I go about making a sandbox? (still getting the hang of wikia as a whole lol)SasookayIsRlyCoo (talk) 21:34, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Now that's what I call assistance! Thanks a ton Geist! (Can I call ya Geist, or is that for friends and family only lol) I just finished typing up 2 articles in my shiny new sand box! Whaddya think? I'm doin' my best. x3SasookayIsRlyCoo (talk) 22:51, July 16, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks again! Categorizing spells is probably my favorite part of this site. I'm finally feeling a lot more comfortable editing. I just went to the Image Guild for help with a gif, or at least a better quality pic for Iron Dragon's Hammers. That particular pic was a lousy screenshot taken myself -_-" SasookayIsRlyCoo (talk) 03:22, July 17, 2014 (UTC)

Spells?
I'm gathering opinions on spells in my sandbox. Could you drop by and add your support and/or opposition (just put it under the Spells section of my talk page if you don't mind)22:08,7/17/2014

Lightning Dragon's Eruption
You can change the spell name if you want. I just considered it to be 'erupting' from Laxus' fist. :)02:54,7/18/2014 02:54, July 18, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Magic and Guild Questions
Hey there! Yes, pages for all those should be created, its just that no one has gotten around to doing them :P 04:46, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Not if we ONLY have a name and logo. They must have at least a bit of info like Phoenix Grave has about one of his Mages being in the Sorcerer Magazine. 05:01, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Just some questions
If they were just bolts, punches and beams, there's not really a point to making them since they weren't named and are just unoriginal/generic attacks. It'd really make us look like a fanon site if we continue to make up names for every single thing that a person does with their magic.

Jellal used Altairis. In the manga, the original color was a pitch-black sphere of darkness, which is what I see here.

Also, I dunno what Reli is talking about, but I believe on talk pages through various discussions, we all agreed that Ooba's magic doesn't need a page because it's unnamed and there is very little info on it, as well as that it's not really unique or important (spinning is useless imo). 14:15, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

It's cool to add a link to the M&A section of the character so that they can be included in the list, of course. Things like Egg Knock need have a page because they are named; things like Time Bomb Magic should have a page too, even if it's unnamed, because it has spells that are associated with it, and has enough information to warrant a page. Characters like Nano need pages, yes, but we're all really busy and can't get around to doing it. I'd be happy to proofread if you want to rough draft her character (and potential others) in your sandbox. 14:42, September 6, 2014 (UTC)