User blog comment:Marco the Marine Admiral/Laxus' Battle: Another Threesome?/@comment-3290324-20121224035724/@comment-4047931-20121227011404

Boy did I sleep in. Now that there's mountains of text to go through I better get started.

@Marco: Well I still believe Jellal has been stronger then Laxus through out the series but still not by tons but I wouldn't go as far to say that Zero is stronger then Hades and Natsu when using Dragon Force as the only real for of plot armor was in the anime where he brunt through Dimensions. In the Manga it really just shows Natsu being able to overcome Zero with his and what was left of Jellal's power. Also I do believe Gildarts could handle Zero with rather a lot of trouble and as for Laxus and Jellal, they would give him a hard time but in the end Zero would come out on top, same for Jura in that case.

@Eddie: Yeah sorry about.I just like too compare sources when making my points so I did get the wrong idea there so sorry for being a twat. As for comparing every one here I would have to say it would Hades as a clear top, Gildarts afterwards, then Natsu in dragon force mode, followed by Zero, Jellal and Jura being tied and Laxus following behind the group of powerful characters. So I do think Gildarts could beat Zero and I do like the Natsu vs Zero battle and I hardly believe any plot armor had to do with it. It was the power of two strong mages and a will to pull him through a powerful spell that did it. Can't say I was too happy with the anime version though. Zero's Genesis Zero didn't look nearly as cool or threatening and Natsu being swallowed completely by the spell then braking out wasn't nearly as epic then just seeing he burn his way through the darkness. As far as Namaka Magic goes I have little problem with the idea just some of the bull that is pulled out in some fights such as with Zancrow. Even when fighting for his friends, Natsu couldn't overcome the psychopath but it's how the whole magic container in his stomach was pulled out of nowhere which really could have been used somewhere earlier in the series, like when fighting Totomaru to eat the orange flame without being utterly repulsed or sick for it. So again I have litte against fighting for friends making mages fight that much harder, just some of the stuff Hiro gets away with in his battles with people still thinking there something all together amazing, that's one of the reasons I believe the previous arcs were way better then most of the current ones. There are some cases like Sting and Rogue vs Natsu and Gajeel where the fight was built up all through the arc just to have some one-sided battle until Sting pulled out Dragon Force, a power which made short work of Jellal, and yet went back to the same as the start were before that, Natsu and Gajeel were fighting for there friends so it could have been acceptable that they were winning so easily but to say that the were noticing the way Sting fights and then not mentioning that the rest of the fight and then having Natsu dominate Sting and Rogue while using Dragon Force was just ridiculous. Also if he was fighting for his friends, doesn't that mean the power of feelings shouldn't of worked on Rogue as he didn't do anything bad to the guild? Anyway moving on from feelings. In Magical Power I see Gildarts and Jura on the same level, explains why Makarov was shocked to say so I guess, with Gildarts having a slight upper hand in Magic type and Psychical strength. I still believe strongly that Jura and Jellal would draw if made to fight and that Jura could have handled Sema, but that's my opinion on that. As for Thought Projection, it makes perfect sense that Jellal gained his full power back. Going along with what we know Jellal is putting his Magic power into Siegrian and that may be drainer his power but with the time spent using that spell to create Siegrian, the rest of Jellal's power would be returning naturally while the portion spent on Siegrian would be ever present in what would be missing. Having Siegrian return would have brought all that magic power Jellal used on him as he did not just make him disappear altogether. As for Jellal's page it states his full Magical power returns to him. As for Mystogan, I disagree entirely with what you had said as in Earth Land has those with Magic have it return naturally to their bodies giving Mystogan magic in his body due to the differences in the two worlds. So having that advantage which he did not have in Edolas and seeing how he is the counterpart of Jellal, it is expected that they would have the same Magical power, it was mainly the type of Magic Mystogan used on Laxus which would have lead to nowhere on the Lightning Dragon much like with Jura when Jellal used his staffs. As for his hand spells I guess he learned them because he could knowing his Magic wasn't limited to weapons in Earth Land.

@Marco and Eddie Also one thing I would like to add is thanks for the conversation because as far as I know, hardly any of my friends actually watch, read or know about anime and manga so I don't get much chances to have such large debates over topics like these. It's also one of the main reasons I started helping out on these wikis. So this is kind of going out to everyone here on the wiki but especially here as I don't think most conversations have been this extravagant so thanks.