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Profile Picture Changes
As per the Image Policy, nominate and discuss changes to the profile pictures of the character articles here and only here. All discussions must be left open for a minimum of two days before any change takes place. The typical requirements for a profile picture are that it shows the character facing forward, in their typical attire and should not be battle-worn. They should be centered, have good lighting, and be of good quality. Candidates also must have valid and complete and  templates attached to them or else they will be rejected. Anonymous users are not allowed to vote here!

Discussion on Switch in Profile Images

 * I don't think there was any major change... except for the art style becoming closer to Mashima's 17:34, June 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Kinana and Droy definitely changed over the timeskip. Laki and Jet ... dunno. ._. But, aside from hairstyle and attire, has there been any change in Lucy? Nope. Jellal? Nope. They still has the template. The only valid reason I can see for having the switch is because there was a timeskip. Same should apply here, right? --Sane Lunatic (talk) 19:14, June 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, I'm glad you mentioned it because I've been thinking for a while that we need to have a discussion on what warrants a switch template and what doesn't. >_> 19:17,6/15/2015


 * Not all characters have their post-time skip profiles, because they didn't get any major change. I already mentioned to Wrath and Ummy on Skype that I don't understand why Jellal has one, for instance. I'd argue that Lucy did change besides the hairstyle though, maturing somewhat and what not, however, that's for another debate. I just find it worthless to have a switch for someone like Michello with basically no change. 19:20, June 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree totally. Michello and Jellal definitely don't need one. Michello basically got a slit hair trim. Not worth a switch. And Jellal didn't change at all. I'd actually argue that Lucy doesn't really need one either though. :/ 19:24,6/15/2015
 * Maybe I'm just biased, because I really like Lucy's new looks, especially on the image that Chaos uploaded datsideboob, but I still do think there was a significant change. 20:45, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Personally, I'd say that this issue is more of a case-by-case basis thing: On the other hand, I can actually understand the reason behind the argument that we should also show that a person has not changed over a 7 year period, so ... dunno. .-. --Sane Lunatic (talk) 19:38, June 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Major characters like Team Natsu should only get the template if there is a major change. A huge and permanent black mark across Gray's face requires a switch template. Just a change in his hairstyle where he slicks his hair back just requires a profile update.
 * The case would be different for minor characters. Jet hasn't really changed much. But his design never changes much, it only seems to change after a timeskip. Thus, he should get the template.


 * I'd say that no switch implies that there was no change to their looks throughout the series. I do agree that case-by-case approach sounds good, but going through every character and voting sounds quite impractical at this point D: 20:45, June 15, 2015 (UTC)
 * Going through the list of chars would be extremely tedious. I'd rather be lazy and look at a character's case only if someone brought it up, tbh. And, even then, just hold a simple vote without any discussions. >.> --Sane Lunatic (talk) 20:50, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Alright, so, uh, we should perhaps reach some conclusion here. I guess everyone agrees that for characters like Michello/Jellal who underwent little to no change over the timeskip, there is no point in switch. I've already replaced Michello's images, and if no one is against it, I'll remove Jellal's pre-time skip pic as well.

Since Lucy was brought up, I'm actually up for removing the pre-time skip picture as well. Yep, I know that's not a common practice here, since we'd have a manga pic there, but
 * 1) The old anime renders suck. Simple as that. If I could find good replacements from the new anime, I'd have already proposed changes. They are outdated and they look nothing like Mashima's art. Holy shit, do people really think that the old anime made the characters look good?
 * 2) The manga pic is done by Mashima, it is literally the latest art with Lucy's new looks and it's in colors. What more do we need?

So if no one is against this, I'll do that as well. And if anyone feels there's a character that needs changing in terms of switches and what not, feel free to bring it up here. 09:54, June 17, 2015 (UTC)


 * Do I consider this silence to be an agreement? /o/ 09:19, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

I disagree vehemently. ( .___.) Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with the old anime renders. And frankly, the old anime looked ten times better than the new anime. At least in my opinion. And yes, the new manga pic is in color, but having a manga pic for a character that has been in over 237 anime episodes just seems backwards and awkward to me. 17:02,6/19/2015
 * You ... watch the anime? Also, how does the pic being manga or anime matter as long as both are colour? --Sane Lunatic (talk) 17:28, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

Trust me, if you tried to rewatch the old episodes (which is what I am doing with my friend at the moment), you'd notice how shitty everything looked. We were just used to the old looks since there was nothing to compare them with, and with them changing towards the new anime, people whined just because... it was different. The old anime, however, had a terrible art most of the times when it came to adapting Mashima's. But uh, that's not really the point here. While I can see where you're coming from with the Lucy thing, I actually don't see it as an issue? I mean, I guess it would look bad in Synopsis or so if we suddenly used a manga picture in the middle of anime ones (consistency yay), but when it comes to infobox, I'd rather have a good looking manga picture than an outdated anime one. The color is the only reason why we don't keep manga instead of anime anyways.

And as for the renders, might be just me, but after all this time, I really think they look bad on the pages. For instance, I'd be 100% for something like this on Carla's page, instead of the badly positioned render she has there. That one doesn't even fit our usual requirements for profile images anyway. For a long time, we've been moving all those renders to Appearance sections and I think we should do the same with the main characters as well, if a good replacement appears. 17:20, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

All the changes Misk mentioned. --Sane Lunatic (talk) 17:28, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you here. I rewatch the fights on youtube, and this to me looks a whole lot better than this. The new anime is just a bit awkward. Like when you see a person who is almost good looking, but something throws them off like a big nose or a crooked eye. >_> And I don't think there's anything wrong with the current image we have of Lucy. Besides a slight alteration in hairstyle, Lucy hasn't changed. And color isn't the only reason we use anime images. Anime images have better quality and usually look more natural. What I mean by that is that they don't look like someone has colored them in.

And I don't think they look bad at all on the pages. The reason we've keep the main character's renders for so long is because, unlike most renders, the ones for Team Natsu actually have great quality and show both the face and the body in a great position. I'm fine with the renders being changed if we have a better image to change them to. But changing a perfectly good image from the anime to one from the manga is unprecedented and, imo, very awkward. :/ Especially since Lucy would be the only main character who had a manga image instead of an anime render. 17:52,6/19/2015

Actually, I wasn't commenting on the fight animation, but on the way the characters and especially their faces and facial expressions are drawn. When you look at the Erza render, her face, even whole head is nothing like Mashima draws her and that goes for many characters and many scenes in the old anime. I've just rewatched Phantom arc and the amount of weird Lucy and Natsu faces was sooo high, I just couldn't help not to notice them. I won't claim that the new anime doesn't have its fair share of retarded shots, but when they actually try, it looks awesome and Mashima-like, and that's exactly what I'd like to see on the character pages. I just think it's time for a change. We have a great picture of Lucy's latest looks and even if it's a manga pic, it's in color and it is of recent Mashima artstyle. Try to compare it to the old anime render, they look nothing alike, in my opinion. 18:17, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

I think it looks just like Erza. Not seeing much of a difference between this face and this face. >__> If people honestly think Lucy's changes are noteworthy enough to warrant a new profile image, then that's fine. However, I think waiting until her new look is animated is the way to go. That's how we normally do it at least. :/ 18:32,6/19/2015

That manga picture is not exactly recent though. If a character had significant changes in how they are drawn compared to past, even if their looks didn't exactly change, I think we should still reflect it in the character profiles. And, in my opinion, the old anime or that manga picture from 300 chapters ago you linked are quite different from what they look like now. I'm not really sure if I'm making myself clear though, since we're kinda running in circles now ;x  18:38, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

I linked that picture in response to your assertion that the anime render didn't look like how Mashima drew Erza. I wasn't trying to assert that it was a recent drawing of Erza. :/ But honestly, even in her recent pictures, I'm not seeing these "significant changes." ( .___.) I think I'm understanding you correctly (maybe). I just think me and you disagree, XD. 18:48,6/19/2015

I guess so. xD Let's see what everyone else thinks 18:56, June 19, 2015 (UTC)

Okay, so I asked Luna for a summary of what happened here because discussion is tl;dr. I seriously want to vote, but I probably missed some points here since I didn't read what Papa and Misky discussed earlier, so just correct me if I am misunderstanding something. So he gave me three points:
 * Whether chars who have not undergone any changes during timeskips require two or more profile images, like Jellal and Lucy. Attire and hairstyle don't count.
 * I personally don't mind either way, but I guess I can live with the idea of only using switch with the characters who only exhibited obvious changes in their appearance, such as Droy, Elfman, Reedus and Romeo. Though tbh, I also wish to keep what we have for Bisca and Alzack, more especially the latter, since after the time skip, if not for Bisca, I probably wont notice who he is. But if we were to use the aforementioned criteria, then most pages would lose their switch. Whatever though, again, I am fine with whatever.


 * Oh, and now Rai and Misk are just discussing which image to use for Lucy.
 * I personally prefer if we'd switch to the new anime for Lucy's profile image then put current render on her appearance section. Idk, her features are too soft in the old anime. Well, in general, every character in the old anime are too soft, whereas in the new anime, they have this sharpness in it. Especially the Erza render that we have.. The more I look at her eyes, the more I question if she's really Erza or someone who dressed as her. Maybe that's just me..? Maybe I am imagining things..? D: Oh well.. *eats cookies*


 * Oh, and Jellal's switch template will mp be removed if nobody objects soon. If you have any objections, now is the time. ._.
 * Just change his picture from time to time, especially when a good one turns up.. ( .____.)

I have no issue with Lucy having a switch template, because her hairstyle aside, she does have this more mature look about her. People like Jellal who don't look any different have no business having a switch template, though I have to say, I find the logic that having just changes in appearance not warranting a switch flawed. Seven years passed in Fairy Tail, and if anything major occurred in appearance (for instance, Lyon has longer hair and looks more mature; less childlike, Jura has a beard and looks older; Ichiya has much longer hair and doesn't look anything like his old self, etc.) there should be a switch. Michello doesn't really look any different in terms of appearance from how he looked seven years ago, so honestly a switch isn't necessary for him, just like Jellal. The way this discussion is progressing, it seems like we're just going to remove all switch templates because people only have hairstyle changes. Well honestly, no shit they have hairstyle changes. Seven years passed. In Lucy's case, one year passed and she has a new hairstyle, new clothes, and a different atmosphere altogether. Everyone else looks the same, acts the same, and all that. And regarding Gray, in the event that he only received a hairstyle change, honestly, a switch for him would've been good if he kept that hairstyle because it shows how he has matured physically. Truthfully, if they look significantly different from their old selves, or have some sort of new defining physical features, then switch it up. If they have little-to-no differences whatsoever, then fuck it. If they look different, then just switch. If they don't look different, then don't bother. It isn't hard. Just use your best judgment and if someone makes a mistake and incorrectly uses a switch in the future, correct and educate them. 16:55, June 21, 2015 (UTC)