Talk:Gray Fullbuster

Junk Trivia
Too bad, i think it would add spice if gray likes lucy. - twirl&swirl "A running gag with Gray is that he always insults Mirajane's ideas without knowing, causing Mirajane feeling upset" - This isn't even a running gag, it only happened once. - WhiteArmor - (Talk) - 13:44, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Exactly twice - first when Lucy called Team Natsu "the strongest", and second when Gray criticized Mira's picture.Ishthak 13:47, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

So should I put it back in? - WhiteArmor - (Talk) - 13:49, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Um, when is it ever stated in the manga or anime that Gray has feelings for Lucy. Because I know it doesn't say that, all it says is that he thinks she is cute, saying that Gra has feelings for Lucy is pure speculation. So I am removing it.Ash9876

Natsu names as aliases?
Since Natsu calls Gray Droopy-Eyes among other things when they're insulting, would that count as an alias? Scarlet wind Step into the Light

No lol, that can 't be alias , unless everyone calls him with that.

 Stone Roger  14:22, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

his age 25
just because he did age physically dont mean age does not change loke is how old spirit i think you guys should list the year in his age for that year (74.141.196.236 07:02, October 23, 2011 (UTC))

07:16, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

They are not spirits and it would mess everything up 11:31, October 23, 2011 (UTC) its not speculation 7 years pass he was 18 add 7 more wam he 25 he did age physically but he biologically 18 but 25 also zeref does not look his age in he real old (74.141.196.236 11:58, October 23, 2011 (UTC))
 * He didn't age physically and using Zeref as the reason to change their age would be speculation as he could have not age by other Magical means 12:06, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but this is not open for discussion. Fairy Sphere essentially trapped them in time and they did not age. The time passed, but they didn't pass with it.


 * Yay! Rai comes in to save the day! 12:46, October 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * All in a day's work. ^_^

Spelling mistakes
There are a few spelling mistakes in here, for example "Ur trains Gray"

It's driving me nuts cause I can't edit it. Closo 16:05, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Where is the spelling mistake supposed to be in a sentence like "Ur trains Gray"? O_o

-- 16:20, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Ur can be seen as a spelling mistake. If you watch the anime in Japanese with the original voice actors, Gray's mentor is called Ul

Daphne arc
Isn't he in the Daphne arc. He was a major role in the arc and now its gone! Where did it go? Carrie 11:34, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

His synopsis on his role in that arc was never written in his page, but you are welcome to do it yourself if you'd like 14:20, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Gray's point of view of Lucy with the help of Gemini
Gemini in the form of Gray, comments that Gray is "somewhat interested in her/Lucy" (in the anime)

it wasn't cited in Gray's relationship with Lucy :) I'd love to edit it but I don't know how and I just wanted to point it out in case anyone wants to change it :)

We go by the manga on this site. If it wasn't said in the manga but it was said in the anime, we don't add it.

14:41, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

shouldn't that go to "personality"? --FirePit (talk) 19:39, July 25, 2012 (UTC)

Reroutes to wrong Japanese voice actor
Exactly as the subject says, it takes you to a different Yuichi Nakamura, instead of the voice actor's profile (You can obviously tell its a different person, as no anime roles are listed- including FT) 72.199.102.101 04:40, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

It's right there actually. 19:58, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

Gray Dead?!
In the end of chapter 334 grey seems to be killend. He was pierced with alot of shots and also was shot in the head and the narrator said something that life sacrifed.

So at least his status should be marked as unkown but I think, that one of a main character will leave us.

--95.117.85.26 13:24, June 7, 2013 (UTC)Mavis

Wait for the next chapter. Until he's shown dead or anything of the like, his status will remain active.

At least put the information about the latest chapter an I agree that his status she be unknown, because the most likely out come is that he is dead. User:CNBA3
 * Updating pages are handled by the Fairy Tail Wiki:Lightning Update Tribe. Whoever claimed the job will get to it when they can--
 * Also, until Gray is officially announced as dead, his status won't be changed. Period. 23:18,6/8/2013

Personality Section
Just thought I'd give input that in the 'Personality' section that the comment put in about Juvia towards the end of it where it says "he started developing feelings towards her, which he preferred keeping a secret" is not really proven or fact.

It has not been stated anywhere withing that referenced manga chapter (Chapter 376.5, Page 22) that that is true. It's merely speculation or someone is just reading into that mini chapter too much. Because, like I said, it has not clearly been stated to be true. 69.35.179.246 22:24, April 5, 2014 (UTC) Guest

There was this one scene where they were riding back to the guild after failing to protect the ex-councillor, where Gray is consoling and encouraging Juvia. While it might not be outright love, it's clear that he feels at least something for her, even if it's only a deep friendship, so I think we can leave it there. NoNickNeeded (talk) 22:29, April 5, 2014 (UTC)

Ice-Make Section
The Ice-Make page lists Ice-Make: Thieving Hand as Dynamic Ice-Make, but nothing is mentioned of Gray's use of Dynamic Ice-Make (no matter how minor)SasookayIsRlyCoo (talk) 14:10, June 10, 2014 (UTC)

Revelation of full name
When is Gray's full name is revealed? I want to reference it.--Shay.avigad.1 (talk) 20:12, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

He was introduced as Gray Fullbuster. Plus, we don't reference the blatant obvious. 20:33, August 26, 2014 (UTC)

Eye Design in chapter 398
In the third panel of page 6 of chapter 398, Gray's eyes irises are drawn differently. There seems to be a pattern drawn into it.

Is that normal eye close up design, or is it a new thing?http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb1/messaging/images/5/5f/Signature_button.png

Hakkyounotenshi (talk) 14:20, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

It's a new thing that has something to do with his newly aquired Ice Devil Slayer powers. And like his tattoo, it's not there all the time. NoNickNeeded (talk) 14:24, September 10, 2014 (UTC)

Ice Trail
I think we should decide where Gray's Ice Trail synopsis will be written, since we've decided to include the Ice Trail series on the wiki.
 * One choice is somewhere in the history section, after Gray's parents are killed and before he meets Ur. after he parts with Ur before joining Fairy Tail
 * Another choice is in the other media section, since it's not Mashima's work and whether the storyline is canon or not can be questioned.
 * A separate section, like how we did with Yuriy, as Carry suggested, but in this case this is a bit tricky, because the timeline this story happens is supposed to be between 2 parts of the history section; Deliora destroying his village, and him meeting Ur, and this goes in between.
 * Add a note to Gray's page, saying that after his training and before joining Fairy Tail he took part in many adventures, and redirecting to the Ice Trail page.

So what do you think? 14:21,9/15/2014

I'm up for B for the exact reasons you mentioned. 14:31, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

Mangastream states that Zero and IT are written under his supervision, mp means the stories are decided by him with inputs from others, just that Zero is drawn by himself while IT is drawn by his assistant. MS considers both to be canon. This is, of course, just their opinion, but saying that this is not a work of Mashima might be jumping the gun. If he decides the complete storyline himself while just the artwork is left to his assistant, this would be canon, right? In case this is considered canon, maybe the history section can be limited to uptil Ur's fight with Deliora while everything else, including the childhood flashbacks, goes to Synopsis? Otherwise it'd make History too big, though I'd vote for history. Considering IT is all about Gray, maybe just create a link from History to Ice Trail saying, "Many events take place during Gray's journey after Ur's death and before he enters Fairy Tail. These are described in the Ice Trail manga." Or something like that? Just to keep the History section from getting to long. --Sane Lunatic (talk) 14:52, September 15, 2014 (UTC)


 * So... is Ice Trail's story being written by Mashima a proven fact or not? Because if it is, then giving it a subsection in History section is the best option imo. 15:13, September 15, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah, if we have info about Mashima assisting in this work that would work. As for the other suggestions, the thing is, we cannot put the childhood flashbacks to the Synopsis section, because the synopsis only consists of the timeline beginning with the first chapter of the manga, and everything before that goes to History. (Also note that AioM is not only non-canon stuff, some of them are pretty canon) However, your idea for redirecting from Gray's page to the Ice Trail page for those events is pretty good, so I'll add it as an option. 15:17,9/15/2014

First of all, Ice Trail happens after Ur, not before. The story is in between Gray losing Ur (and Lyon) and Gray joining FT. Second, I remember we agreed that we would take the same steps for Ice Trail that we took for FT Zero. 15:43, September 15, 2014 (UTC)


 * How is that possible? It still happens between 2 different sections in the History paragraph. 15:44,9/15/2014
 * It happens after he parts ways with Lyon and before he arrives at FT. The info should just be placed after the paragraph that ends with Lyon leaving and before the paragraph that starts with him going to FT.--
 * So #1 that is? 16:05,9/15/2014
 * I think that would work best as it is being overseen by Mashima. If he is involved, its canon and should be reflected as such in the page--
 * I'd still like a confirmation that Mashima is indeed involved more than just nodding to whatever his assistant draws 16:24, September 15, 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but until we get full confirmation that Mashima decided the plot for this story, then I say leave it in AiOM. AiOM is not a place where we shove non-cannon material, it's just a place we put things that don't fall under any particular arc. IT could be considered Gray's history if Mashima was the one who wrote it, but again, that would need to be confirmed before we took that route. 19:55,9/15/2014

Actually, the way we did it with FT0 works here too. We just do what we did with Mavis' synopsis - go look at the end of Tenrou Jade arc. So, we'd just stop Gray's history at "Ur in the process as she lived on as the ice encasing Deliora." and then start whatever the hell we're gunna call this arc in synopsis, ending it with the rest of the history flipped into present-tense. However, I too am still questioning the canon-ness of this entire story, and, as I give literally no fucks about Gray, I'm not too fussed about where this ends up tbh .-. 13:20, September 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * The problem here is that all the flashbacks would also have to go in Synopsis, I'll just call it 'Childhood Arc' for now. But then, for consistency's sake, everybody mentioned in those flashbacks, from Natsu to Makrov, will have to have that change made in their pages. Unlike Mavis' flashbacks, Gray's are intertwined with many other characters. For Mavis, uptil now, only Warrod and Precht are affected. For Gray ... it's quite a lot of other people. Comparing Zero and IT won't really work here, imo anyway. That's why I still think it should go into History and, to not make the History section too long and considering IT deals almost exclusively with Gray, should just be mentioned, providing a link to the IT page. Only my opinion though. ... And there should be a rule against hating a character at least on the poor character's own talk page. XD --Sane Lunatic (talk) 18:01, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Though I don't remember where exactly, it has been confirmed that Ice Trail is being done under Mashima's supervision. And @Carrot, Ice Trail arc sounds good XD 14:20, September 16, 2014 (UTC)
 * That's not good enough you dirty Mexican. We need a physical source that we can see and confirm. 15:11,9/16/2014
 * What exactly would be considered a good source? I'm guessing that just being published in the FT Monthly Magazine or scanlation sites like MS saying it's canon aren't enough, while I think Mashima said in his Twitter that IT was illustrated by his assistant, which might mean that Mashima is the author ... and it might not. ... Is there a Mashima Twitter stalker or something like that who can help here? --Sane Lunatic (talk) 18:01, September 16, 2014 (UTC)

Voting
Alright, so I think all opinions have been stated, so I suggest we vote so this discussion can be finally closed.... the options stated are:
 * AioM unless there's confirmation that Mashima is involved
 * Finish Gray's History with his training with Ur, then have the Ice Trail arc in the synopsis, then his early years in a separate section, then the synopsis continues as it is
 * Add a note to Gray's page, saying that after his training and before joining Fairy Tail he took part in many adventures, and redirecting to the Ice Trail page
 * In History

I #1 unless provided with evidence I guess. 07:34,9/24/2014

I say number 3. Since this is being done for Fairy Tail Monthly, it must have oversight from Mashima Hakkyounotenshi (talk) 12:08, September 24, 2014 (UTC)

confirmation 12:34, September 24, 2014 (UTC)

I talked with Chaos and it said that Mashima does indeed supervise the work, checking it for any errors and whatnot. According to it, this would make Yusuke Shirato's Ice Trail canon material, and therefore I support adding it the way we would handle Fairy Tail Zero summaries for existing characters. 03:26, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * same! 03:32, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Ditto--
 * 03:52, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

Well... We could debate on whether 'supervising' = 'canon', but I guess I'm fine with it going to History section or w/e the option is 11:06, September 26, 2014 (UTC)

I #2 since it makes sense to tie in everything together in his synopsis, like one nice long page.

I #1. As long as it's included in this page, I don't have a problem what is done with it ... --Sane Lunatic (talk) 10:43, October 6, 2014 (UTC)

Okay, so something needs to be done about this. This either needs to be put in synopsis or history. Like how I initially wanted with FT0, I want Ice Trail in the history. We have characters like Gildarts showing up, and we can kinda trim it down so that it fits in the history. It is in his past, and anything that happens before the main timeline is history. Never mind how Magi wiki does things, they treat Sinbad no Bouken as it is because their flashbacks pertain specifically to people that basically existed before anyone else. 19:03, October 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * If it can be trimmed down to fit in history like a proper history section entry fits (i.e. no detailed synopsis) then put it in history. Whatever we're going to do, we need to decide now. This discussion has been open way too long. 19:58,10/9/2014
 * As far as we can see for now, it can be easily trimmed to fit in History. Example as of the first two chapters:
 * After beginning his journey as Ur wanted, he was able to save a girl named Nano Leaf from being used to hatch a Devil's Egg to further the evil ambitions of the Chrono Noise guild, also destroying the egg and the guild in the process.
 * On the other hand, if some details from this story prove to be important later, maybe in FT itself, this issue might have to be revisited ... --Sane Lunatic (talk) 20:13, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

Should be done the same as was done with Mavis' page. in the synopsis 20:00, October 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * If so, what about the sections in History which are written using the flashbacks? Would they go into Synopsis too? If so, for the sake of consistency, would anybody else involved in those scenarios and having them in History have to have those scenes moved to Synopsis too? For Mavis, it's only Warrod and Precht, for Gray ... there're many. So prefer History ... --Sane Lunatic (talk) 20:13, October 9, 2014 (UTC)

After reading over Gray's history, I'm inclined to agree with Wrath and Lunatic. Gray's history is far to extensive for what was done with Mavis's page to be done with his. It's just not feasible. 20:22,10/9/2014

So ... now what? Start adding in History or hold another vote? 'Cause this Voting section got turned into a discussion in the end ... And can the first choice be slashed off or at least rephrased to something like, "AioM: Putting in Synopsis could be bothersome and too long for History." --Sane Lunatic (talk) 05:28, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

Voting (this time for real)
Alright, since this discussion's gone on way longer than it should have, and people have stopped expressing their opinions whatsoever, I say cast a vote and close it.
 * Option 1: Ice Trail in History
 * Option 2: Ice Trail in Gray's summary, History ends with Ur's sacrifice and Gray beginning his journey.
 * Option 3: Other(explain)

I Option 2 mainly because I don't want Gray's History to be too extensive, as it always is quite large. 16:45,10/25/2014

1: Its history that was before the main storyline. It belongs in history--

1 because his history section has things from when he was already in the FT guild.

Option 1, an extremely trimmed version or just providing a link to Ice Trail page (in History section, if that isn't clear). --Sane Lunatic (talk) 16:53, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

Gray's history is very extensive, and it covers various aspects of various points in time. I would prefer that we keep it in history as we cannot have a flashback of Gray chatting with Erza when Erza just joined FT in the present tense. It makes no sense whatsoever and it doesn't fit in anywhere else in Ice Trail, as this covers the time in between, not up to the time during. 16:54, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

If use option #2, we need another subpage under Gray article for his Ice Trail's history.  SNN95 Talk 17:13, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Um, no we don't. He has a history section in his synopsis tab. That is where Ice Trail will go, in the history that already exists. 03:20, October 26, 2014 (UTC)

If the story isn't long then we should put it in the history section.03:46, October 26, 2014 (UTC)