Talk:Episodes

Fairy Tail anime returns April 2014
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-12-28/fairy-tail-anime-restarts-in-april DranzerX13 (talk) 10:00, December 31, 2013 (UTC)

Didn't Mashima canonize Key of the Starry Heavens? I mean, the Oracion Seis are back in the manga now, using their KotSH designs. The Zentopia incident is mentioned in the manga. This is shaping to be a huge confusing mishmash if we keep calling it strictly filler.

76.14.255.183 01:32, January 7, 2014 (UTC)

Nope. Mashima himself designed the looks of characters for KotSS arc so it only makes sense to keep them in manga. And minus the Zentopia incident being mentioned in manga, there's absolutely no word about the arc being approved/canonized/whatever by Mashima. And besides, 'filler' in this sense can still be translated as 'anime-only' 01:52, January 7, 2014 (UTC)

For the record I would like to weight in and say: I consider KotSS Cannon, mainly because there is enough evidence/references to it in the manga to satisfy me, and it has not been concretely proven not to be. Besides, from some of the things (iow, rumors) I heard, Hiro wrote the arc himself. Not a reliable source when it comes to stuff this foggy, I guess you can say it comes down to your own preferance and opinion Anon. 02:36, January 7, 2014 (UTC)
 * Once again, because Zentopia was mentioned, doesn't mean the entire thing is written or approved by Mashima. 10:50, January 7, 2014 (UTC)

Either way I think a talk page is definitely the wrong place for this discussion. Better use the comments of an existing blog (there are several about this topic) or make a new one. NoNickNeeded (talk) 09:48, January 7, 2014 (UTC)

Episode Page Names
Okay, I've been meaning to talk about this for a while, and I dunno if there was some reason it was done in the first place, but I want to find out.

My question is: Why do we title chapter pages as "Chapter 1", "Chapter 264" etc. and episode pages at their episode title (eg. Only Enough Time to Pass One Another), with redirects from "Episode 154" etc.??

Firstly, that only means that it's not the same over the Wiki, but also that we have to title the pages based on translations (we choose one, because FuNi etc. often have different titles). I've seen us renaming episode pages because the title changes, so why not just use "Episode X" to make it easier? Also, a lot of episodes have titles that match pages we already have, so we get stupid things like Pandemonium (Episode)/Pandemonium because we have to work around those. We also get Elfman Strauss vs. Bacchus Groh and Elfman vs. Bacchus, which is just silly if someone is trying to look them up and gets multiple options, and worse, we can't even redirect these shorter fight titles because they are already in use.

So yeah, it's been bugging me for a while. Anyone care to explain/offer a thought? I personally think it would just be easier to title all the episodes as we do the chapters, but that's just me.

02:49, February 25, 2014 (UTC)

Because it's cooler, silly carrot :3 06:06, February 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Really? ( -__-)~ 08:12, February 25, 2014 (UTC)

For once I wish to weight in. I agree with Carrot, titling the Episodes the same way the way the chapters are done would be easier. It would be more consistent, as well as making referencing a bit easier for users who can't remember word for the word the episode names.

06:34, February 25, 2014 (UTC)

I'm fine either way. >___> 07:36, February 25, 2014 (UTC)

I didn't think this was really important or damaging at first since we've always had this system, but with the anime coming back soon, I would support this due to the issues we could solve with translation, navigation and naming. If someone wanted Episode 165, it's easier to use Episode 165 than it is to use "Malice is Concealed by the Veil of Darkness". All possible translations of the title, or at least the most reasonable ones, should become redirects as a result if this is done. Even if this isn't done, I don't really have an issue, cause I don't think it's inherently necessary but it's good for convenience.
 * Actually, not that I disagree or fully agree with you, but just so people are not mislead, searching for "Episode 165" would take them to that page. 07:58, February 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know. But it's easier to type, that is.
 * Also, we then wouldn't have a bazillion redirects, because, as we do with actual chapter titles, we wouldn't have to redirect them. I.e, Elfman vs. Bacchus would not redirect to Episode W/e, just as chapter titles don't redirect to chapter pages. So, that would eliminate heaps of redirects, because unlike now (where we have to redirect every episode numbered page to it's titled equivalent) we can skip the whole process. 08:12, February 25, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, yeah, you're right about the redirects thing~ This could be FairyBot's first, big task. If people support. :D 08:30, February 25, 2014 (UTC)

I'm all for it. Apart from what was already mentioned, it'd also make linking episode pages from over on the Answers wiki easier. NoNickNeeded (talk) 10:04, February 25, 2014 (UTC)

I've been wondering that as well for quite some time. I agree and think we should just change it to the Episode # instead of the Episode Name because like the Chapter title, we will have different names (like the translated name, Funimation name etc.) 15:02, February 25, 2014 (UTC)

Well, I, of course, support the change too. Do people want a proper vote here/are there any more discussion points or should we see if FairyBot feels up to the challenge of renaming/moving episode pages? Either way, I just didn't want this to be forgotten, because I think a decision needs to be made. 14:29, March 1, 2014 (UTC)

This might become problematic if the new anime restarts the count of episodes, just sayin' 15:03, March 1, 2014 (UTC)

Misk has a point there. They're addressing this new anime as Fairy Tail (2014). Whilst it may continue from where the old one left off, the new one could restart from episode 1. Maybe we should wait till April 5th? 17:16, March 1, 2014 (UTC)

We could always put a 2014 or some other qualifier in front or behind "Episode" if they really start the numbering anew. NoNickNeeded (talk) 17:41, March 1, 2014 (UTC)

I think that would complicate things even more. I think we should wait and see 19:36, March 1, 2014 (UTC)

It would be really convenient if we can continue from 175 but yes, like Mega said, we should just wait until the anime starts to get a good sense of what we're working with. 19:45, March 1, 2014 (UTC)

So, now we know that the episodes will continue with 176, 177 etc. I the change. 13:25, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

I was just about to come here and bring this up again when I finished my LUT work :P Of course, as the original proser, I naming the pages Episode X, as we do the manga chapter pages. 13:34, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

Fairy Tail anime continues from episode 175. New episode title info. http://i62.tinypic.com/2dsvvo.jpg DranzerX13 (talk) 13:37, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

Yup, yup. That website was right before~ :D 13:41, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

Do it quick before the anime begins 16:18, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

We gonna make teams of people like we did for ImgRight, or..? 16:24, March 28, 2014 (UTC)

OVAs
Do you guys think that the OVAs should also be renamed "OVA 1," "OVA 2," ect.? All I need is five users supporting the change...

Support

 * 1) Meh, why not!  15:45, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Why not? Just to be consistent with what was done to the episodes.  15:51, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) With this said, can we also do this with the Omakes? like, Omake 1, Omake 2, Omake 3? (as they are numbered in it's infobox). I feel like we should just conclude it here since EVERYTHING else has been changed accordingly.  18:08, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) NoNickNeeded (talk) 09:52, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) Me no likey the idea :3 same with renaming omakes, Umy  18:35, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Giving the Ovas and Omakes the same treatment just seems... hideous to me. Don't know why, but I just don't like it. 18:49,4/8/2014
 * 3) Me no likey. Now, on to that paper...  22:14, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 4) Dunno... Just don't like it XD You're all going to have a crack at me 'cause I'm the one who suggested the whole changing the episodes thing, but unlike that we don't have the omakes as numbers and the OVAs as titles, so there's no inconsistency in that regard. Yep... dunno... but I dun like it~  23:51, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * 5)  02:48, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 6) Okay, so this might seem weird since I originally supported without saying a word, but I was thinking about this and realized it might not work due to the same thing that Nick asked about. Having certain group of OVAs numbered and another one not would be bad. Same for Omakes since there are different kinds of special chapters o.o  09:17, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 7) Typing just the OVA are easy and quite little convenient, so Imma oppose getting it renamed. Plus, if you're truly a FT Fan, you don't have to say the specific OVA for it, since he/she should know by the word it says.. or something.. :3  09:32, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * 8) Dat numbering.
 * 9) I don't like it..

Removed

 * 1)   16:32, April 8, 2014 (UTC)

Comments

 * *has a crack at Carry* . But joking aside. I'm also against numbering the Omakes since they never had any numbers to begin with, but the OVAs on the other hand do. And with the way that OVA 4 combines two Omakes, I don't think we need to stick strictly to naming the OVAs and Omakes the same way. Having the "based on" line(s) in the info-box is good enough for me. NoNickNeeded (talk) 06:16, April 9, 2014 (UTC)

What about Fairy Tail X Rave and the Movie OVA? Would they just be put into the same number, get seperate number or what? NoNickNeeded (talk) 15:48, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * The movie is different. FT x Rave is OVA 6. 15:49, April 8, 2014 (UTC)


 * @Avree : You'd be surprised how often the FTA gets questions about events from the OVA as if the happened in regular episodes. Stuff like "When did the girls get drunk?" "What is the name of the school they all went to?" "When did girl X get drunk?" "When did Jellal touch Erza's boobs?" "When did the girls get drunk?" "When was Lucy a cat" "When did the girls get drunk?" ect. Yes the drunken girl questions are there so often for a reason... Carry, Fi and Rifta will know what I'm talking about NoNickNeeded (talk) 09:52, April 9, 2014 (UTC)
 * I guess the only convinient here is Typing OVA# in short... 09:57, April 9, 2014 (UTC)