Talk:Mavis Vermillion

The page is locked so....
Since I cannot edit a thing, can somebody be so kind so as to add both Fairy Glitter and Fairy Law to "Magic & Abilities"? She gave Fairy Glitter to Cana, and being the 1st master of Fairy Tail, and having knowledge of the three great magics, it can be assumed she knows Fairy Law too, thanks. --BGMaxie 16:00, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Fairy Glitter sure, Fairy Law, no. We know she has it, but it won't be added until she uses it.


 * It could be argued that she invented Fairy Law since she has the other two great magics of Fairy Tail. I won't add it since it's against your wishes but it does fit the pattern of her magic.(I just wanted to comment on that ^^) Shadowneko 18:21, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

How come we know she has it? :P

-- 18:23, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Quote
Can we change her quote to "Unwavering Faith and Resilient Bonds will bring even miracles to your side" (Chapter 255, Page 17)? 01:30, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

I think it'd be fine.

✅ 01:38, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

Japanese
The quote of Mavis 'It's become a wonderful guild, Third' It is actually incorrect for the 2nd panel-'Third'.

First of all, The MangaReader.net translation for the page made a mistake. and putting just 'Third' sounds...a bit vague and weird in the sentence. Trust me, I have experience in Japanese and Kanji to at least intermediate level because I have taken and pass the JLPT tests before.

Actual Kanji said on the second panel is 'San Dai Me' 'San'- Third, 'Dai'- Generation, 'Me'- in grammar, it is an ending suffix add to an ordinary number. like how enlgish you would sometimes say '2nd' instead of '2'. RAW Scan Picture here: http://www.imagebam.com/image/300d9b153961471

so basically it is better translates to 'the Third Generation'

Miya3 02:17, October 16, 2011 (UTC)User:Miya3

Talk to this user  and have him weigh in on the conversation. He's the only one who speaks Japanese on the site.

What you are saying is correct, 三代目 is more closely translated to third generation. If it were me, I would've translated as either "Third Master" or "The Third" so that it match the context more because it's as you wrote, only having a "third" is really weird...

By the way, here's a wild guess from me, did you confused 「目」 with 「芽」? Chaos Knight -{E-mail}  03:05, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

fairy law
she can use fary law magic?? --Nitram86 19:56, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Very likely. But it can't be added until she actually uses it.

Info
i must know more about marvis! idk why but she intrigues me....if anyone happens to know more please put it on her page and yes i know i know we can only know so much simply because of the managa but still.....

When more information comes up, it will definitely be added to the page. 22:49, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

Reference needed
"Despite being an Ethereal body, her bodily functions still seem to work, which is why she still needs to use the bathroom." - there should be a reference to where this comes from. --89.176.75.26 13:54, June 24, 2012 (UTC)

Relationship of Mavis and Zeref?
Out of curiosity, I would just like to ask what is the relationship between Zeref and Mavis? I think they were probably in love before... 10:28, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

No relationship between Mavis and Zeref has ever been established, or even implied. Furthermore, this isn't an issue for the talk page. Without a statement from the series or Mashima, the notion that they have any connection is speculation. 10:31, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Master Tactician
Given that after observing the participants at the Magic Games, she could predict the movement of absolutely everyone perfectly, a 'Master Tactician' section in the Powers and Abilities seems a reasonable addition. Or maybe give it another week, the next chapter is titled 'Fairy Tactician' and that's probably gonna expand on her abilities. :) 131.111.184.8 20:36, October 19, 2012 (UTC)

Isn't it a magical ability. Look at her eyes in the latest chapter, it's patterned with a somewhat a flare. Can't we add to her magic the Fortune Telling or just a new section for Eye Magic?

Hair Color
Hi guys, I think you should change the hair color to "Pale Yellow"- Lucy has blonde hair, but Mavis' hair is very bright yellow. You should name it differently. Thanks for your attention :) NickDibuv (talk) 16:25, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

You mean Light Blond? Yeah, it should be Light Blond 20:41, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Status
Should her status be Spirit instead of Dead? I mean ya she is dead, but with her hanging out with the rest of the guild during the games, she's not so much "dead" as she is a spirit. Brakkis (talk) 03:53, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

But doesn't the term "spirit" denote that she is dead anyway? :3 Besides, if we start to get into specifics when choosing status', things can start to get complicated. As such, here on the Wiki we have as little categories as possible. "Deceased" is fine in this case. 06:11, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

No because she never said she was dead. she refered to herself as an astral form not spirit. and as of the now it was revealed she is actually not dead and is in side the basement of fairy tail frozen in a crystal and is actually Lumen histoire Actionmanrandell (talk) 13:55, October 27, 2014 (UTC)actionmanrandelActionmanrandell (talk) 13:55, October 27, 2014 (UTC)

Rumors
Mavis Vamil (talk) 03:32, May 28, 2013 (UTC)There is also a lot of rumours about Mavis being Zeref wife.....Mavis Vamil (talk)
 * There are a lot of rumors about a lot of things, but talk pages are not the place for rumors.--

Mavis & Zeref's relationship confirmed as the anime OP
Chapter 340 14-19 confirmed & they used to be lovers. It could be imply that Zeref is one of the Fairy Tail founding member.
 * Pure speculation. All it confirmed was that they knew each other--

Makarov?
The picture from the creation of the guild chapter 342, the one on the far right is young Makarov. Can someone unlock the page and add this?
 * Thats not Makarov. Makarov was not alive when that scene happened--

Fairy Law
I know that this is like beating a dead horse, but I do think you should add Fairy Law to the magic Mavis can use, reason is very simple.

But let me ramble a little bit here. First and foremost, I can't read or understand Japanese so I have to rely on the translation of the all the translator but from all the translation it imply that Mavis was the one that created the 3 Great FairyTail magic (Fairy Law, Fairy Sphere, and Fairy Glitter). If I understood everything, if I am wrong I apologized.

Now back to reason I think Fairy Law should be added even though she hasn't use yet is plan and simple you have Fairy Glitter as a magic she can use. Because of the statement of - you will add Fairy Law when she use it - is very understandable. But, Mavis never use Fairy Glitter in the manga or anime but is listed as one of the magic she can use. The only one Mavis ever used was Fairy Sphere.

Users of the 3 Great Fairy Tail Magic Spell so far:(If I'm Correct) Fairy Law    -  Makarov Dreyar and Laxus Dreyar Fairy Sphere -  Mavis Vermilion Fairy Glitter - Cana Alberona

Mavis never use Fair Glitter, she allow/gave Cana Alberona the ability to temporary use Fairy Glitter. (70.15.148.36 20:58, September 8, 2013 (UTC))
 * Until she uses it, we won't add her to the list of users--

hate to necro a thread but if the argument she created them is not valid reason to use the 3 great spells as her own magic then why does the page allow Fairy Glitter as one of her spells? to date she has never used it or even shown to be able to use it. all that was shown is on her grave (assuming the Lumiere historie rumor is fake) was the power of fairy glitter which Mavis was guarding/preventing from falling into the wrong hands. in alot of ways this follows nirvana in that the magic was embedded onto an inanimate object until he right people could unlock it. so far it has only been speculation and point of view belief Mavis can use fairy glitter/law and if we are making judgement on 1 of the 2 spells the same rule should apply to the other.203.219.85.18 08:24, December 17, 2013 (UTC)

It is not the same. Mavis not only passed on the Magic once, but twice and she said that she was letting Cana borrow her Magic and now it has gone back to Mavis. On the other side, no one has ever stated anything about Mavis having Fairy Law or anything 15:45, December 17, 2013 (UTC)

Tenrou Jade arc and History Sections Merger
Its one of those topics: I suggest, since this took place before the events of the series, that both sections should be merged. --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 03:54, August 2, 2014 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi

It is one of those topics... one we debated over for almost a week straight and voted on quite some time ago, and, as such, have already decided on. If you like novels, see here. 04:03, August 2, 2014 (UTC)

Status ... again
First off, nothing to do with LH. Rather, it's to do with her status in the Guild. Consider the hypothetical situation where we knew that Silver was a corpse long before he was taken out of action. Then his status would be Deceased, but he's be active on the Tartarus page. Mavis has shown herself to be an extremely active entity and even has the FT template for her infobox (now that there is no FT, guess this should become Other). So: Pretty hazy about this myself, but considering what would have been done in the hypothetical Silver situation ... *shrugs*. Won't argue further if opposed. --Sane Lunatic (talk) 17:40, February 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * Proposal: Change her status to Active on Guild page (as she was Active when the Guild was disbanded) and maybe add '(Active using Ethereal abilites)' to her Status on her page.

Throughout the entire Tartarus arc she only turned up once to drop a comment and disappear again. And we have no idea what she has done during the timeskip, or if she did anything. I really don't think active is fitting for her. NoNickNeeded (talk) 18:42, February 4, 2015 (UTC)

Difference with Silver is that Silver was revived with Necromancy while Mavis goes around floating but she hasn't been revived and is still pretty dead. 19:08, February 4, 2015 (UTC)
 * Are we sure Mavis is actually dead? I mean her body is encased in a crystal, but she still looks young, so unless she died of an ilness or something, she might not actually be dead. That could also explain why she is able to wander around as a spirit.KenjiEvans (talk) 20:48, March 30, 2015 (UTC)
 * She has a grave and a ghost. So far as we are concerned, she is dead--
 * She isn't even buried in that grave, it's the Fairy Glitter spell that's sealed there, she is underneath the Guild Hall, encased in crystal, and how do we know that Ghost thing is not more akin to Astral Projection?^^^^